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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 07:50 PM
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Revolution is in the air but US sticks to same old script (addicted to propping up tyrants)
Edited on Fri Jan-28-11 07:57 PM by kpete
Source: The Sydney Morning Herald

Revolution is in the air but US sticks to same old script
January 29, 2011
Washington appears addicted to propping up tyrants
Paul McGeough.

Events in the Middle East are moving too fast for the Obama administration to think it can get away with Plan A and Plan B reaction strategies according to the regimes or leaders it wants to keep in and out of power.

Consider the response of the US Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, to Hezbollah tightening its grip on power in Lebanon this week - Washington might have to pull its funding worth hundreds of millions for Lebanon, her office warned.

But as democracy demonstrators were confronted by thousands of baton-wielding policemen in the streets in Cairo, there was no mention of pulling the $US2 billion-plus cheque that Washington writes for the octogenarian President, Hosni Mubarak, each year.

Instead, a rhetorical nugget that Mubarak's mouthpieces would use in their defence - ''our assessment is that the Egyptian government is stable'' and then some namby-pamby words about how Mubarak was ''looking for ways to respond to the legitimate needs and interests of the Egyptian people''.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/revolution-is-in-the-air-but-us-sticks-to-same-old-script-20110128-1a8e6.html
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 07:54 PM
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1. Actually, the Egyptian commentator
on Hardball had the correct interpretation.

I hope there is a video. Very perspicacious.

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 07:55 PM
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2. Make no mistake: Those who maintain the status quo will fight like hell to keep doing just that
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 07:56 PM
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3. Maybe President Obama could send a few million
"Yes We Can" buttons.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 08:05 PM
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4. That would be a perfect example of continued De Nile. n/t
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 08:33 PM
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7. And we excel at De Nile
Edited on Fri Jan-28-11 08:33 PM by MissDeeds
Or maybe we could just tell them to hope for change. It worked so well for us.

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katnapped Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 01:33 PM
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21. Nah, would be "Win The Future" buttons
And indeed that's what they'd be saying--"WTF"
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 08:25 PM
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5. What?
So we should run over there and remove Mubarak, inflict "freedoms" on the Egyptians with a little bit of "shock and awe"???

Been to that play, didn't like it AT ALL.


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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 09:21 PM
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10. Maybe cut our foreign aid to Egypt?
There's a middle ground between doing nothing and invading other countries.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 09:38 PM
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12. Which is precisely what the Obama administration has stated

...that if Mubarak does something foolish, the aid gets cut.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 10:02 PM
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15. I'd rather the aid have been cut from the beginning.
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 08:30 PM
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6. From reading the Wikileaks cables, this is no surprise
I have to say, the primary revelation is not some name or other dropped, or some event or other misconstrued, but the large-scale portrait of a US State Department, as an expression of US policy, which is as corrupt as any organization in the rotten world.

Given the opportunity to stand for something, the State Department falls on its face, shoots itself in the foot, has no idea what to do or why it should do anything. Given the opportunity to curry favor, lick boots, lie and cheat, threaten and intimidate, keep secrets and grease palms, thats the ticket - that seems to be the natural language we speak in the world...
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 08:55 PM
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9. yep
Wake Up ....the masses are rising up
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 08:51 PM
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8. The big problem seems to be that there is no revolutionary leader at this stage.
El Baradei doesn't seem to want the position, and without somebody to keep people focussed, the dissent will either wither away, or one of the fundamentalist groups,like the Muslim Brotherhood, will fill the gap. Either of those scenarios would be a shame.

They need a leader, and they need one now
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 09:26 PM
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11. Elbaradei said he was willing to lead an interim government.
So, there is an opportunity here if our government will take it, which I doubt they will left to their own preferences.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 09:46 PM
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13. the Muslim Brotherhood being in charge would be a "shame"?
I'd say that's a big old fucking understatement
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 09:48 PM
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14. As mlitary intervention is out of the question, a muted US response is appropriate. nt
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 10:18 PM
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16. Our "big stick" is the 2 billion a year in aid we give each year
Perhaps the army would dump Mubarak if that were the price?

In any event, I think its moronic to give aid to a repressive dictatorship, and even more moronic to give aid to a repressive dictatorship and feel shy or "muted" about what behavior we might expect of them as the price.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:01 PM
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17. Do I sense a similarity to Iran, 1979?
I most certainly hope not.
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-11 01:29 PM
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20. eerily similar to 1979
Tanks have surrounded the US and British embassies in Cairo, Al-Jazeera reports.

"The BBC is reporting that Egyptian Army tanks have allegedly surrounded the embassies of the United States and United Kingdom. This comes after Israel evacuated its entire embassy staff via helicopter."


CBS Radio news is now reporting that the staff of the Israeli Embassy have been evacuated. This is eerily similar to 1979.

“The entire staff of the Israeli Embassy in Cairo has been evacuated by helicopters.”
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:34 PM
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18. The US will ALWAYS prop up a dicator in Egypt for geostrategic reasons.
Edited on Fri Jan-28-11 11:37 PM by Odin2005
1. The Suez Canal.

2. An Islamist Egypt will cause the Israelis to go nuts and do dumb things.

3. The risk of a chain reaction that threatens the supply of "our" oil.

This is why nobody should be surprised by Biden's support for Mubarak. All concern for "Democracy" and "Human Rights" by our leaders is for public consumption, it is not the reality, it will NEVER be the reality.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-11 11:41 PM
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19. AMEN!
When will Americans take to the streets, the conditions: poverty, food going up, unemployment, etc. are the same ....
C'est la lutte finale!
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