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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 01:21 PM
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This is sweet, so reading posts here- "NOW" means later
And when the President of the United States says transition to a new government "NOW", he REALLY meant, down the road...

"Now, it is not the role of any other country to determine Egypt’s leaders. Only the Egyptian people can do that. What is clear -- and what I indicated tonight to President Mubarak -- is my belief that an orderly transition must be meaningful, it must be peaceful, and it must begin now."


Greatness, I can use this as backup data next time my boss tells me to start working on a new project NOW. I mean, he really doesn't mean start NOW, he really means think about it for 8 months, have a lame duck work session. Then do it...


It's all so clear...Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hi:
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 01:24 PM
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1. +1
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 01:45 PM
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3. It must be nice to know so much that you can say what "now" means to the greatest benefit of so
many who have nothing but their skins between them and much much greater and more violent powers.

What's more important here: scoring political coup, or the people of Egypt?
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 01:50 PM
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4. If the President's statements last night were not clear to you
that's something I can't help you with...

on second thought- maybe I can...

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/now

now   /naʊ/ Show Spelled
Show IPA

–adverb
1. at the present time or moment: You are now using a dictionary.
2. without further delay; immediately; at once: Either do it now or not at all.
3. at this time or juncture in some period under consideration or in some course of proceedings described: The case was now ready for the jury.
4. at the time or moment immediately past: I saw him just now on the street.
5. in these present times; nowadays: Now you rarely see horse-drawn carriages.
6. under the present or existing circumstances; as matters stand: I see now what you meant.
7. (used to introduce a statement or question): Now, you don't really mean that.
8. (used to strengthen a command, entreaty, or the like): Now stop that!
–conjunction
9. inasmuch as; since: Now you're here, why not stay for dinner?
–noun
10. the present time or moment: Up to now no one has volunteered.
–adjective
11. up-to-the-minute; encompassing the latest ideas, fads, or fashions: the now look; the now generation.
—Idioms
12. now and again, occasionally. Also, now and then.
13. now that, inasmuch as; since: Now that she is rich and famous, she is constantly being besieged by appeals for aid.
Use now in a Sentence
See images of now
Search now on the Web

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Origin:
bef. 900; 1965–70 for def. 11; ME; OE nū, c. ON, Goth nū; akin to G nun, L num, Skt nu, Gk nú, nûn



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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 03:13 PM
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6. Respond to the matter of his knowledge base compared to your knowledge base ON THE ISSUE. nt
Edited on Wed Feb-02-11 03:13 PM by patrice
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 01:59 PM
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5. That's "begin" now, as in "begin" to leave Afghanistan in 2014.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 03:48 PM
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7. Please also respond to the question: What's more important, counting political coup, or the safety
of the people of Egypt?

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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 03:49 PM
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8. And, you know of course, your answer should show how, in using YOUR definition of "now" no threat
is posed to the safety and well-being of those who have already paid too much for what they are getting from "us".
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 04:04 PM
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9. "counting political coup"
I don't know what you are trying to get at...

I would prefer somebody shoot Mubarak in the head and get it over with so the Egyptian people can get on with some kind of order in their lives.

It would help if you made a little more sense and put some context around your posts FYI.



Also, NOW means NOW as President Obama said...
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 04:21 PM
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11. Your statment that Obama's definition of "now" is a lie or in-adequate should be founded on counter
Edited on Wed Feb-02-11 04:22 PM by patrice
rationale, i.e. significant ADDITIONAL information that reveals why/how he is wrong and, according to you, you are right, so a certain other course of action, "shooting Mubarak in the head", is preferable in terms of what it will accomplish to save/help the people of Egypt. Please provide the "facts" that support your definition of "now", so that we may ascertain whether you are, as you claim, a better judge of the situation than the President is.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 04:46 PM
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12. Ah, reading comprehension...
I don't believe his definition of now is a lie at all or inadequate..

I was talking about the DU'ers who were saying "now" = (start the process, Mubarak stays for 8 more months)...

I think President Obama was clear. He want's Mubarak to transfer power now...and I agree
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 04:52 PM
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13. He said:
an orderly transition of power must begin now.

It has begun. He has agreed not to run in the next election, that has happened in the NOW which BEGINS the transition, allowing the opposition time to formulate a new government.

He's been in office for 30 years. Sounds to me like he is NOW BEGINNING the transition.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 05:07 PM
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14. Mea culpa! Thanks for your patience. I haven't been hanging out here as much as I used to so
I've missed some of the discourse.

And I'll admit I'm depending too much on scanning things these days, rather than actually reading them.

:hi:
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 05:09 PM
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17. we are on the same page my friend
:hi:
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 04:05 PM
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10. When will then be now?
Press: What the hell am I looking at? When does this happen?
Robert Gibbs: Now. You're looking at now. Everything that happens now, is happening now.
Press: What happened to then?
Robert Gibbs: We passed then.
Press: When?
Robert Gibbs: Just now. We're at now now.
Press: Go back to then.
Robert Gibbs: When?
Press: Now.
Robert Gibbs: Now?
Press: Now.
Robert Gibbs: I can't.
Press: Why?
Robert Gibbs: We missed it.
Press: When?
Robert Gibbs: Just now.
Press: When will then be now?
Robert Gibbs: Soon.
Press: How soon?

See. All very clear.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 05:08 PM
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15. I think you are reffering to this part of the transcript
Q Thank you, Robert. When you talk about the transition happening now, how do you define “now”? Because now means today not September.

MR. GIBBS: Well, no, now means yesterday -- because when we said now we meant yesterday.

Q Right.

MR. GIBBS: So I mean I think the definition of now is --

Q But when you say now today, it means now --

MR. GIBBS: And I meant yesterday --

Q -- or yesterday.

MR. GIBBS: This is -- again, I want to be clear. This is -- though we are in the here and now, now started yesterday. Again, I think that's what, Dan -- what the people of Egypt want to see is not some process that starts a week, a month or several months from now. This is a --

Q So you’re not satisfied with September as an out date for President Mubarak?

MR. GIBBS: If you’re asking if now is September, it is unseasonably warm, but it is not September. Now means now. The transition -- there are things that the government needs to do. There are reforms that need to be undertaken, and there are opposition entities that have to be included in the conversations as we move toward free and fair elections that we’ve advocated for quite some time.

Q So is the White House then satisfied with Mubarak in power until September?

MR. GIBBS: Again, I am not going to get into all the details of what they discussed. The conversation was frank and the transition must begin now.

Q What was the major event that seemed to cause a shift in I guess policy for this administration -- a week ago talking about Egypt being a stable government, seemingly supporting Mubarak, and now --

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 05:08 PM
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16. Depends on what your defintiion of is, is.
I mean NOW.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 05:19 PM
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18. "That" "IS" "the" "way" "things" "ARE" "and" "have" "always" "been" "and" "anyone" "who" "says"
"it" "isn't" "or" "shouldn't" "be" "is" "definitely" "suspect""."

P.S. All puns intended.
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