Tweety on Morning Joe: "We should be treating Mubarak as a FRIEND!" What a tool!

[chimpymustgo]

He's going on about how he's been our guy - he was STRONG. Now Joe chimes in, he's the one reason we have not had WAR in the ME in 30 years. Chris again: Is this how the American people want to see our FRIEND treated? The idea of trying this guy is just wrong. It's a joke that we've allowed this kind of talk to get out there.

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I'm just astonished. I guess the powers that be have laid the hammer down. Obama has folded and the neocons have won. Again.

[Oceansaway]

1. thats just 1 reason i don't watch

suck asses like dead intern Joe and slobbering tweety.

[no_hypocrisy]

2. It's not that simple.

Analogy: If your brother was known to beat his wife/your sister-in-law and/or his kids, would you continue to support your brother just because he's your brother or would you have to consider his actions?

Mubarack has had his benefits and vices, but the citizens will not allow him to continue to make decisions about them, on their behalf, or make decisions that have an impact on their lives. He is now ineffective as a leader. He has to go. It isn't enough that he is a stabilizer for the region.

[chimpymustgo]

4. I am stunned at Tweety. For him to insist "the American people wouldn't want our FRIEND to be

treated this way" is just bizarre. We're the ones who tout "democracy", right?

[no_hypocrisy]

6. To those who control this country, democracy is only legitimate if it can be controled by DC.

[malaise]

3. I think it's great that men and women

('Bawbra' Walters was worse on O'Donnell last night) are forced to present their real thinking about democracy. It appears to be a convenient term but not one of them have convictions about the notion of democracy. Self interest is their only belief.

[chimpymustgo]

5. What is Bawbra say? I actually turned the channel when she came on. Didn't expect her to commit

news.

[malaise]

15. Watch - after the heart program promotion

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/#41417432

[OHdem10]

7. Chris is telling us a serious Diplomatic truth. We cannot throw

someone who has helped us for 30 years under a bus.
The other "friends" in ME are looking to see if we
are backstabbers.

Chris is not saying do not get rid of Mubarak. Rather
he is saying we have to be careful how we do it.
This is why it is taking us a while to get things done.

Mubarak has to go but it has to be done in a way to
permit him to "save face".

Life is never simply black or white--more often we live
in shades of grey.

[sufrommich]

8. Tweety and Joe Scar are "the powers that be" now? nt

[chimpymustgo]

10. No. I had the feeling someone sat Tweety down and explained "how things work."

He's such a "pro-democracy" guy. Till now.

The problem with treating Mubarak with kid gloves is, he's not taking the "hints". Now he's embarrassing President Obama.

[sufrommich]

16. lol.So Tweety was threatened,got it. nt

[LostInAnomie]

9. From a foreign policy point of view it's not as cut and dry as DU likes to make it.

What they said is true. The Mubarak government maintaining the peace with Israel probably played a huge role in Israel not being invaded repeatedly in the last 30 years. Mubarak's government has also played a role in intelligence gathering on terrorist groups

How we handle Mubarak is going to weight heavily on how other ME allies act towards us in the future.

[chimpymustgo]

12. What allies? Yemen? Saudia Arabia? Why can't the Egyptian people be free?

[PCIntern]

13. You are correct...

other DUers' opinions notwithstanding

[Overseas]

11. He doesn't realize we ARE treating Mubarak as a friend.

Encouraging him to step down peacefully at 82 years old, rather than getting a lot more blood on his hands with brutal suppression of these demonstrations.

We are trying hard to get him to step aside as honorably as possible.

What does Chris think should be done instead? Shock and Awe?

[chimpymustgo]

14. A few more BILLIONS in parting gifts?

[Overseas]

17. Enough billions. Hoping we can get Mubarak to step aside peacefully.

He jeopardized that by talking of chaos.

Ideally, he could have stepped aside claiming that his rule made the people ready for democracy.

Declare victory and leave, so to speak.

Hope we can still get him to do that.

[NNN0LHI]

18. Choose the wrong leader and Shock and Awe is exactly what they will get from the next GOP admin.

I have seen this movie before.

So has Tweety.

We both remember how the GOP turned an imbecile like Bush into a "War President", with a +90% approval rating by starting two senseless wars. Unfortunately for us the GOP hasn't forgot how easy that was to pull off either.

Don

[Johonny]

19. I agree

I think we've been rather kind in trying to get him to see there is no future for his country with him in power. The best thing he could do would be to find a peaceful democratic transition of power while he has the chance. If not things might get worse for all involved. So far it's pretty clear he's to delusional to see the obvious. Which isn't surprising, he is behaving like most dictators do in this situation.