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nmbluesky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 07:12 PM
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Crazy Beck was a very upset about Steelers, Packers for anthem
ox News analyst Glenn Beck scolded members of the Green Bay Packers and Pittsburgh Steelers for showing what he claimed was a lack of patriotism.

Beck, an outspoken conservative talk-show host, criticized players for not placing their hands over their hearts during the national anthem.

Said Beck, on his radio show:

"Was anybody else offended by...can you put your hand on your heart? It's the national anthem!

"I mean, my son, Raphe -- we were sitting here, and he's talking. I'm like, 'Shhhh. Put your hand on your heart.'

"... I was really offended by the sports players that were just hanging on their jersey.

"... The country that gives them the ability to...pursue their happiness in peace and safety is not worth putting your hand on the heart."

Christina Aguilera's singing of the national anthem drew attention when she sang the wrong words at parts of the song. She later apologized and said she meant no disrespect.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2011/02/glenn-beck-criticizes-steelers-packers-for-anthem-participation/1
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Indianademocrat91 Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 07:15 PM
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1. wow
pretty sure 90% of players in all sports dont but their hands over their hearts and probably 99.9% of people at home never do it either...
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 07:26 PM
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12. Hands over the heart is for the 'Pledge of Allegiance' anyway, not the National Anthem. n/t
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 08:30 PM
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23. It's for both, actually
(b) Conduct During Playing.- During a rendition of the national anthem-


(1) when the flag is displayed-


(A) all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart;


(B) men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and

(C) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note; and


(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.



Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_do_you_put_your_hand_over_your_heart_during_the_national_anthom#ixzz1DKJiU3gx
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 10:03 PM
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30. Actually it says "should". Anyway it is a free speech issue. This is not a dictatorship.
So people can pretty much do what they want except common courtesy says they should not do anything to draw attention to themselves - so picking one's nose is probably not a good idea.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 07:16 PM
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2. Well you must have your priorities in line concerning what is important enough to offend you.
Now we know.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 07:16 PM
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3. Somewhere there is a very "lonely" straightjacket....
that could find a very useful purpose.... :eyes:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 07:30 PM
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15. An Iron Maiden would be better.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 07:18 PM
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4. Rush attacked the NE Patriots THE PATRIOTS for being introduced as a team in 2002
yes that was 4 months after 9/11


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wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 07:20 PM
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5. forgive me if I'm mistaken but....
Isn't standing and placing the hand over the heart for the Pledge of Allegiance. I don't usually see people place their hand over their heart for the National Anthem, the announcer always asks, "would you please rise and remove your hat for the National Anthem", never a mention about a hand.

Beck's an imbecile
The game was great
Halftime was the worst joke in a number of years
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 07:29 PM
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14. No, you're incorrect
36 U.S.C. § 301 - National anthem

It directs you to put your hand over your heart.

http://openjurist.org/title-36/us-code/section-301/national-anthem
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 10:11 PM
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32. There's a law telling you where you "should" put your hand during the magic USA song?
Talk about proof that lawmakers really don't have enough to do.

What the fuck is wrong with people, anyway? Note I don't say Americans, I'm sure there are many other examples from around the world of the national-religious mania expressing itself in laws of totalitarian spirit.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 07:40 PM
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17. yep - mistaken
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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 07:20 PM
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6. It is simply not customary to place hand over heart for the national anthem
Never has been.

Pledge of Allegiance, yes. National Anthem, no.

For the National Anthem, it's customary to stand at respectful attention.

Beck is just plain ignorant, and counts on his audience to be ignorant as well.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 07:25 PM
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11. It is; I wonder where it came from?
Edited on Mon Feb-07-11 07:46 PM by muriel_volestrangler
(b) Conduct During Playing.— During a rendition of the national anthem—
(1) when the flag is displayed—
(A) individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note;
(B) members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute in the manner provided for individuals in uniform; and
(C) all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart; and
(2) when the flag is not displayed, all present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode36/usc_sec_36_00000301----000-.html


Nothing in British tradition about 'hand on heart', so I wonder where this came from.

On edit: it appears to have been written into the Code in 1976 - someone's idea of bicentennial patriotism?

HISTORICAL AND REVISION NOTES
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Revised Source (U.S. Code) Source (Statutes at Large)
Section
301(b) 36:171. June 22, 1942, ch. 435, Sec.
6, 56 Stat. 380; Dec. 22,
1942, ch. 806, Sec. 6, 56
Stat. 1077; July 7, 1976,
Pub. L. 94-344, Sec. 1(18),
90 Stat. 812.

http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/36C3.txt


Code after Dec 1942 revision:

Sec. 6.

That when the national anthem is played and the flag is not displayed, all present should stand and face toward the music. Those in uniform should salute at the first note of the anthem, retaining this position until the last note. All others should stand at attention, men removing the headdress. When the flag is displayed, all present should face the flag and salute.

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Public_Law_77-829


Code after 1976 revision:

(18) by striking out section 6 and inserting in lieu thereof the following:

‘‘Sec. 6. During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Persons in uniform should render the military salute at the first note of the anthem and retain this position until the last note. When the flag is not displayed, those present should face toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed there.’’;



http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Public_Law_94-344


So it was only written into the code (which is 'good practice', not enforceable in any way) in 1976. Arguably that's too recent to call 'customary', I suppose, though I'd guess some people were doing it before then, in a mistake for the flag hoisting/lowering/pledge of allegiance thing.
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NuclearDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 08:50 PM
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24. Thanks for looking all that up!
:hi:
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 08:55 PM
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25. Hands over ears would have been more appropriate last night
given that g*d-awful rendition of the National Anthem. Worse than even Roseanne Barr.

Gag me with a spoon.

:puke::puke::puke:
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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 04:25 AM
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33. Thank you for looking that up. If the change occurred in 1976...
...then I guess that would explain how an old fossil like me got through his school days without anyone ever suggesting that students place their hands over their hearts during the national anthem.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 07:39 PM
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16. wrong wrong wrong - hand over heart is appropriate
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 07:21 PM
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7. I thought that was for the pledge of allegiance?
:shrug:
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 07:22 PM
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8. figures he would be...
Uggg.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 07:23 PM
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9. Beck's son's name is "Raphe"?
Not George or Thomas or Benjamin? Unpatriotic to the max! Practically French! I mean, if you consider the words "Repressive," "Anti-American," "Partisan," "Hegemony," and, uh, . . . hmmm. "Effete"! Yeah, that it! What do you get??? Hmmm? Seems pretty cut-and-dried to those of us tuned in to the creeping, uh, creepery of Fox News and particularly of Glenn Beck!
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 07:23 PM
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10. So when Glenn Beck
Edited on Mon Feb-07-11 07:25 PM by AsahinaKimi
Is at home watching TV, he plants his wife and kids in front of the tea, makes them stand at attention and tells them to put their hands over their hearts during the National Anthem. Wow.. extremist much?
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 07:45 PM
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18. It's all crap
He was probably drunk and unconscious, with his head in the toilet at the time.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 07:29 PM
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13. Article with audio clip on the link below
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 07:47 PM
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19. I wish he'd gone in their locker room
and taken it up with them personally...
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 10:04 PM
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31. Yes that would have been great.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 07:54 PM
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20. Why does he care? Glenn Beck hates America!
He doesn't give a shit about ideology. It only serves him if it feeds his bank account and his ego.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 08:24 PM
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21. Well, Glennie; get your crayolas out and color me a traitor.
I don't put my hand over my heart for the pledge, the anthem, or anything else for that matter.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 08:25 PM
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22. I love that subject line
who stands up watching the anthem in their own house?

Not Beck I can guarantee you that
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 09:37 PM
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28. my friends and i do
always have... we sing the anthem too. especially before soccer games.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 09:03 PM
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26. Nor do I...
I do however respectfully take one hand in the other behind the back.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 09:07 PM
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27. Gee, you would have thought fatheadfucker would have complained about all the taxes charged so boys
could smell other boy's asses. But fatheadfucker doesn't have the brain for that. :eyes:
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-11 09:44 PM
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29. Aguilera's singing -"peach pits in my garbage disposal".
Edited on Mon Feb-07-11 09:45 PM by GoneOffShore
But really, who gives a shit?

It was the corporate bowl. Bread and circuses folks, bread and circuses.

And not very good bread nor a decent circus.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-11 07:57 AM
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34. Proper decorum must be observed in places of worship.
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