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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 11:26 AM
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Egypt's Democratic Mirage
http://www.foreignaffairs.com/ARTICLES/67351/joshua-stacher/egypts-democratic-mirage?page=show

Despite the tenacity, optimism, and blood of the protesters massed in Tahrir Square, Egypt's democratic window has probably already closed.

Contrary to the dominant media narrative, over the last ten days the Egyptian state has not experienced a regime breakdown. The protests have certainly rocked the system and have put Mubarak on his heels, but at no time has the uprising seriously threatened Egypt's regime. Although many of the protesters, foreign governments, and analysts have concentrated on the personality of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, those surrounding the embattled president, who make up the wider Egyptian regime, have made sure the state's viability was never in question. This is because the country's central institution, the military, which historically has influenced policy and commands near-monopolistic economic interests, has never balked.

As the headquarters of the ruling National Democratic Party burned to the ground, NDP members chaotically appeared on TV with a pathetically incoherent message; meanwhile, the message from the ruling military elite was clear, united, fully supportive of Mubarak, and disciplined practically down to a man. Indeed, this discipline could be seen throughout the military ranks. Despite the fact that a general with a megaphone stated his solidarity with the protesters while other protesters painted "Down to Mubarak" on tanks across central Cairo, no acts of organizational fragmentation or dissent within the chain of command have occurred.


Much more at the link. Very thought provoking and IMHO accurate summary of the situation from the government playing good cop/bad cop to the role of the military and risk for an even more oppressive outcome to all this. Did the protesters miss their opportunity?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 11:29 AM
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1. this is a begining -- remember the protestors aren't thrilled
with the whole political status quo.

so we will see.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 11:42 AM
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3. The key according the opinion is not the protesters but the mood of the average citizen.
"Although some of these citizens may have sympathized with the protesters initially, their mood appears to be shifting. People are tired of being cooped up in their apartments, made anxious as their stockpiles of food and money decrease, and they are ready for a sense of "normalcy" to return. Ironically, the normalcy they pine for resembles the police state so many tried to banish just thirteen days ago. This method of wearing down the non-protesting public seems just as strategic as the violence employed on those airing their grievances in the streets. "

The average citizen is the key piece in this game of chess. Has the government actions been designed to sway those folks while not really focusing on the protesters.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 11:40 AM
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2. With breaking developments today,
the author may want to rewrite the story 3 days later.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 11:46 AM
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6. Looks like today's developments fit right into the article
It states Mubarak is out, but power will end up with the Military and the VP.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 11:42 AM
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4. I'll put my faith in the Egyptian people. I believe they
know better than Foreign Affairs magazine the outcome of their future.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 11:44 AM
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5. Unrec
Edited on Thu Feb-10-11 11:45 AM by BeFree
The regime in Egypt is going down.
..."Egyptian state has not experienced a regime breakdown..."


The author of the article is anti-people and pro-regime.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 11:47 AM
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7. I'd classify it more as cynical than pro-regime
It paints the regime and their actions as pretty bad.
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Kalun D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 12:10 PM
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8. This Wouldn't Surprise Me One Bit
The first thing Mubarack did was appoint a "vice president", he's really a torture Czar and vice dictator. But ever since the US corp media has been parroting "vice president, vice president, vice president"

So Mubarak steps down but if Sulieman remains it's just business as usual.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-11 12:44 PM
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9. I agree, but I've grown cynical over my years.
Some are much more optimistic. I agree it will probably end up as you said "business as usual" with another name out front and the declaration of "victory" so the protesters go home.
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