Sarah Palin Denied Pregnancy Says Woman Who Claims To Have Had Affair With Todd Palin

[Ichingcarpenter]

OH.... Boy..... juicy


After claiming that she had an affair with Todd Palin, the massage therapist now indicates that Sarah Palin faked her most recent pregnancy.


In a new audio interview that you can listen to here on RadarOnline.com, Tripp describes giving Sarah Palin a massage in early 2008.

“I asked her if she was pregnant…she said no,” Tripp says in the interview. “She didn’t appear to be pregnant and I had no reason to think she was pregnant.”


Don't care if its true or not ...... juicy.


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/02/new-audio-interview-sarah-palin-denied-pregnancy-says-woman-who-claims-have-had

[inademv]

1. really

>Sarah Palin faked her most recent pregnancy

It's been not so common knowledge ever since he was born that Trig is Bristol's kid.

[whathehell]

12. I believe

It's more speculation than "knowledge"..

[chimpymustgo]

37. THere's no way in hell a pregnant 43 year old's water breaks, she gets on a plane for a 12 hour ride

with flight attendants not recognizing she's pregnant - though she "knows" this is a high-risk pregnancy, and the child she is "carrying" has Down Syndrome. After the 12 hour flight, she drives another 90 minutes to Wasilla, to "deliver" in a small-town hospital, rather than take advantage of the state of the art medical facilities in Anchorage. Andrew Sullivan recaps the parade of mysteries:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/palins-medica-2.html

Palin's Medical Records II
20 OCT 2008 01:16 PM


-edit-

And so at a little more than eight months' pregnant, 43 years' old, with a Down Syndrome unborn child, Sarah Palin made an extraordinary decision. She was going to fly from Alaska to Texas and back in the last month of pregnancy. This is usually prohibited by airlines and strongly advised against by doctors. Palin's own doctor, Cathy Baldwin-Johnson, insisted (when she was prepared to talk to the press) that Palin did not ask her whether it was OK to fly. Many airlines bar pregnant women from flying in their final month of pregnancy because of the obvious risk of labor beginning mid-flight. But at eight months' pregnant with a special needs child, a child who would need special attention during any delivery, Palin flew a total of over 8,000 miles on commercial planes, risking a delivery in mid-air without a doctor or nurse, which could have been very dangerous and even fatal to her child.

-edit-

According to the New York Times:

Around 4 a.m. on the day of her presentation, Ms. Palin stirred in her hotel room to an unusual sensation. According to The Anchorage Daily News, she was leaking amniotic fluid. She woke her husband and called her doctor back home. Go ahead and give the speech, said the doctor, Cathy Baldwin-Johnson, who declined to comment for this article.

To confirm what an extraordinary decision this was, the Dish asked several distinguished OB-GYN specialists from some of the top hospitals and medical schools in the country what they would advise any woman in such a position to do. As you might expect, every doctor urged that any woman whose water has broken or whose amniotic fluid may be leaking in the eighth month of pregnancy should immediately seek medical attention. If your water breaks at 4 am, with a special needs child, you call for an ambulance. Period. This isn't a judgment call. It's an emergency. The least you should do is get the fluid tested and your potential labor checked out.

-edit-

Hours after her 4 am scare, Palin gave a speech on energy policy to the governors' meeting, and, amazingly, no one guessed anything about her condition:

-edit-

she gave the speech and took a flight back to Alaska. Remarkably, the flight attendants were unaware of her condition: Alaska Airlines ... leaves the decision to the woman and her doctor, said spokeswoman Caroline Boren. Palin was very pleasant to the gate agents and flight attendants, as always, Boren said. "The stage of her pregnancy was not apparent by observation. She did not show any signs of distress," Boren said.

-edit-

Although two other births were announced on the Mat-Su Medical Center's website for April 18, the hospital has no public record of the birth of Trig Palin on its only register, but the registry is optional. The Dish also talked to a reporter who was present at the hospital that day and confirmed as an eye witness that Palin was indeed there, sleeping in another room, recovering from labor. It's a remarkable story and worth laying out in full. What you make of it is up to you. Personally, I just don't know what to make of it any more, but feel a responsibility to lay out the facts as they exist in the public domain. For the record.

Secret's out: Palin pregnant (03/06/08)

***********
And Palin's surprise announcement to her staff:

http://www.adn.com/2008/03/06/336402/secrets-out-palin-pregnant-030608.html


SEVEN MONTHS ALONG: Even her staff was unaware that the first family was expecting a fifth child.
By WESLEY LOY
[e-mail]
Published: March 6th, 2008 12:02 AM
Last Modified: November 4th, 2009 05:58 PM
JUNEAU -- Gov. Sarah Palin shocked and awed just about everybody around the Capitol on Wednesday when she announced she's expecting her fifth child.

The governor, who recently turned 44, told a handful of reporters as she was leaving work to expect a new member of the first family, then headed to a reception at the Baranof Hotel to feast on king crab. Palin said she's already about seven months along, with the baby due to arrive in mid-May.

That the pregnancy is so advanced astonished all who heard the news. The governor, a runner who's always been trim, simply doesn't look pregnant. Even close members of her staff said they only learned this week their boss was expecting.

"I thought it was becoming obvious," Palin said. "You know, clothes getting snugger and snugger."

But people just couldn't believe the news.

"Really? No!" said Bethel state Rep. Mary Nelson, who is close to giving birth herself.

-edit-
Read more: http://www.adn.com/2008/03/06/336402/secrets-out-palin-pregnant-030608.html#ixzz1Dey4Kw6l

[Mariana]

57. You know, even if SHE were that fucking crazy and stupid

and it really happened the way she said, what the HELL is wrong with her husband that he went along with it?

[hamsterjill]

72. "The governor, a runner who's always been trim, simply doesn't look pregnant."

This part always bothers me.

For a woman having a FIFTH child, she would be showing earlier than her previous four pregnancies. According to my ob/gyn, successive pregnancies make the uterus "like a balloon that's already been blown up before" and the baby bump appears earlier with each pregnancy.

[Mojeoux]

93. Todd has always had a whiff of the DOG about him.

I'm not surprised.

[hughee99]

107. Trig is Bristol's?

Trig was born in April 2008... Tripp Johnson (Bristol's "other" child) was born December 2008. I'm not an OBGYN, but it seems like that's a little close together for both of them to be Bristol's (8 1/2 months). It may not be Sarah's, but I wouldn't put money on it being Bristol's either.

[treestar]

118. Good point.

Maybe the kid is Willow's, or someone else's.

[hughee99]

121. Todd's from another mother, maybe. n/t

[treestar]

124. Why would Sarah do it in that case though?

To hide Tawd's infidelity - easy to buy off the mother with having more resources to take care of the special needs child?

Sarah is better than a soap opera, I swear.

[malaise]

2. I'm still trying to figure out

who is the mother of that last child. Is it possible that the son she sent off to Iraq is the father?
That is one dysfunctional family.

[Ichingcarpenter]

3. Websites are re- looking at her Pregnancy after this

especially that flying back from Houston after her water broke to go to the hospital in Alaska.

Poor Sarah a victim of her own reality.

[malaise]

8. You know my position on Palin hasn't changed

All of her behavior suggests that she is seriously disturbed. I wish someone were brave enough to ask her if she was an incest victim.

[Ichingcarpenter]

9. Babygate or Child Endangerment? Sarah Palin’s Bizarre Pregnancy

From:

Babygate or Child Endangerment? Sarah Palin’s Bizarre Pregnancy
SNIP......


But there’s one issue that is applicable to Palin as a politician and a Christian leader, and that is her relationship with her feti. Long before Palin was chosen by McCain in 2008, rumors were swirling around Alaska about her fifth pregnancy. A lot of people questioned her claims because she didn’t appear pregnant and because she had kept it secret for a long time. For me, the issue always came down to her “wild ride” – the plane ride she claims to have taken home from a speaking engagement in Texas after leaking amniotic fluid before her speech.

I just don’t know any woman who would take a ten hour plane ride involving a layover from Texas to Alaska hours after they had already broken water, especially not while carrying an at risk baby who was premature. No matter how many times I looked into this story, there was never a satisfactory answer from Palin. She claims she was in labor, then not in labor just broke water. She claims she wasn’t in pain. People who saw her had no idea she was pregnant. But she gave birth hours after landing.

The story goes on and on with odd details like Todd driving Sarah past the hospital with a neo-natal unit to get to a hospital that does not specialize in premature deliveries, where she ultimately gave birth to Trig Palin, her fifth son.

But it just seems too much to think that a woman would fake a pregnancy, doesn’t it? I don’t want to believe this story. There are plenty of things about Palin politically that stand on their own merit. And so I’ve left this story alone.
But today we have an interview with the woman who claims to have had sex with Todd Palin multiple times between 2007 and 2009 in which she discusses giving Sarah Palin a massage months before she “delivered.” According to her, there were no indications that Palin was pregnant and worse, Palin had received many treatments at the spa where the woman was working and filled out paperwork asking if she were pregnant. The woman, Shailey Tripp, claims that Palin never told anyone at the spa that she was pregnant. How odd.

If this is true, and we haven’t seen any of the back up evidence to prove any of it, it suggests that Sarah Palin was either reckless with her pregnancy or not pregnant, yet again. If this story has any truth to it at all, Sarah Palin is going to have a lot of explaining to do. She is, after all, a pro-life favorite candidate.


http://www.politicususa.com/en/sarah-palin-baby

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

27. I thought it was a flight from Hawaii to Alaska. She had just met with *former* HI

governor Linda Lingle...which makes things worse! That flight is even longer!

[hlthe2b]

34. No... she'd just given a speech in Texas...

Which is one hell of a long flight back to Alaska. Not to mention how many hospitals were available in Houston for someone whose water had supposedly broken and who knowingly was carrying a high risk pregnancy.

[Blue_In_AK]

94. There is also testimony out there

from an Alaskan who saw the Palins in the Seattle Airport during that trip home. Sarah was reading a book and appeared in no distress. I can tell you from recent personal experience that the trip from Houston to Seattle takes over four hours. I can't imagine not being at least a little uncomfortable at that point after one's water had already broken.

Sarah has never provided a birth certificate for young Trig and there are no reports that anyone has seen it. Mat-Su Hospital and Sarah's doctor, Cathy Baldwin-Johnson, have been particularly close-mouthed about the whole affair.

[dancingme]

103. Sarah was reading a book??

and you believe the person who said that?

[Blue_In_AK]

104. It was probably a Harlequin romance. n/t

[Blue Belle]

122. My thoughts exactly...

Like Sarah Palin reads. ;-)

[treestar]

115. Reading a book?

This does not help credibility for the story!

[Botany]

129. A picture of sarah @ 7 months w/ Trig

Like her miracle house that got built when Sarah was having Wasilla's (Track's)
Hockey Rink built somethings make people wonder.

[SpiralHawk]

85. Did she steal THE birf certificate while she was in HI ?

Is that how all the birfer blowback began?

[whathehell]

11. Oh please...

That's low..even when aimed at the Palin family.

Being of age, her son was not "sent off"

he went on his own.

[hlthe2b]

15. Supposedly, the son did so to avoid a court sentence...

for his vandalism and related illegal activities... Military service in lieu of a jail sentence. Similar to Bush* and his "community service" with Texas youth in lieu of sentencing for drug use. That's the problem with stories like these... if the media is blocked from the records, it always remains speculative, but neither was a single source tabloid type report.

[whathehell]

16. That might be...

but that doesn't mean he engaged in incest with his mother or sister...Jeebus.:eyes:

[hlthe2b]

22. Who said that?!

You would be the first I have ever heard someone suggest that. :shrug:

[petronius]

49. As I skimmed, I too misinterpreted post #2 to be implying that

Had to go back for a more careful reading...

[whathehell]

73. Check this out...

malaise (1000+ posts) Fri Feb-11-11 11:09 AM
Response to Original message
2. I'm still trying to figure out
who is the mother of that last child. Is it possible that the son she sent off to Iraq is the father?
That is one dysfunctional family.

[pink-o]

31. Here's the exact nature of Track Palin's "vandalism"

He and his friends thought it would be funny if they drained all the brake fluid from a school bus.:mad:

Oh, yeah, just the thought of terrified, screaming kids careening down a hill while the bus driver frantically pumped the brake and turned the wheels--yeah, hil-fucking-larious

I guess sociopathy is genetic after all.

[Frank Cannon]

35. Good Lord. That is throughly disgusting and demented.

That's not a "prank". That sounds like something the Joker would do.

[Cass]

61. Wow, I had no idea about that!!

:wow:

That is seriously messed up.

[treestar]

119. Sheesh! And one would think he could not get into the military

with that on his record.

[Raster]

71. You know this for a fact? You KNOW that Track enlisted in the military completely of...

his own choice?

[whathehell]

78. Give it a rest, bro....

Since he's an adult, it's a safe assumption, dontcha think?:shrug:

[Raster]

81. No, it isn't, quite frankly. Palin and Svengali are calculating cretins, not above

using anyone or anything to get what they want. Witness the special needs child thrown around like some convenient stage prop. And the daughter reportedly coerced into "Dancing with the Star-tards" because Mommy needed some more publicity.

No, I don't think it's a safe assumption. It's also been hinted at by various sources that eldest son may have been in a bit of trouble and swept off to avoid embarrassing questions for Mommy Dearest and First Dude.

Give it a rest? I think not.

[whathehell]

82. I'm sorry, but you seem to have misunderstood me..

You, along with a lot of people here, are absolutely free to continue

what seems to be an absolute OBSESSION with Palin and family if you want..

My point is, without "facts", which no one here even CLAIMS to have,

the only SANE thing to do is assume adults act according to their own desires...But please,

Go "speculate" all you want...I'm simply not interested.

[Raster]

99. Awesome. You won't be responding again, eh?

You may want to even HIDE THIS THREAD, bro.

[whathehell]

111. Hide mine, bro.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

102. Actually these are the facts. & none of what supposedly happened makes a bit of sense - NONE

Women who are pregnant for the fifth time SHOW - PERIOD! A 43 year old woman carrying a special needs child, whose water has broken, gets to an ER STAT, PERIOD! ETC, ETC, ETC. Nothing about her "pregnancy" and the subsequent birth makes any sense. NOTHING.

It's not speculation, it's fact. And as far as obsession goes - This woman was a candidate for the vice presidency to a 73 year old melanoma cancer survivor. No, not obsession.

[whathehell]

112. That's fine, but I wasn't a part of that conversation...

That's the issue of whether she was pregnant or not...I find that mildly interesting, but was

not engaged in that discussion.

My posts were in response to the speculation on why her son went to Iraq, which is an entirely different issue, afaic.

"This woman was a candidate for the vice presidency to a 73 year old melanoma cancer survivor. No, not obsession".

Yes, but to my mind, the key word is "was".

When and if she's nominated for any other political office is when I'll become interested in her again.

If that doesn't happen, and I hope it won't, I'm not interested in her.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

120. I've speculated all along that her son is the father. His gf was a babysitter on the campaign trail.

:hi:

[Montauk6]

4. TRIPP???

Any relation to Linda?

[MzNov]

63. LOL, my same thought

and massage therapist?? Same one who accused Prez Gore? These people really get around! :rofl:

[mzteris]

89. AND . . . the name of Bristol's son

curiouser and curiouser. . .

[Blue_In_AK]

95. I think the more interesting coincidence

is that Bristol and Levi's baby is named Tripp. Were they trying to get a dig in at old grandpa? Did Levi and Bristol know that Todd was carrying on with Shailey? Stay tuned.

[safeinOhio]

5. Why won't she release

the DNA proof that she and Todd are the parents?

Why is she hiding this information? Simple blood test.

;-)

[Honeycombe8]

6. Where's the baby's birth certificate? It should show where and when he was born.

Then we can track down where Sarah Palin was at that moment. And if she was admitted to that hospital as a patient.

[WinkyDink]

25. Birther!! ;-)

[Honeycombe8]

134. Maybe he wasn't born in this country, and is not a REAL American! nt

[treestar]

128. The long form!

that's the one we should demand!

[SpiralHawk]

7. Republicon Family Pharisees

Sheesh.

Please, Lord, spare America from any further Republicon Family Pharisee Values...

[Ilsa]

10. Maybe this is what wil sell Bristol's memoir.

How far apart in age are Tripp and Bristol's kid? Bristol would have gotten pregnant right after Tripp was born.

[gkhouston]

40. Why on Earth would Bristol be flogging a memoir? I like to buy my Post-It notes BLANK. n/t

[Ilsa]

42. You had not heard that she's penning a memoir? nt

[gkhouston]

50. Nope. I change the channel when I hear the word "Palin". n/t

[gauguin57]

45. Sarah's last kid is TRIG. Bristol's kid is TRIPP. They do this just to confuse us.

Just thought I'd throw that pic in for good measure.

[Javaman]

46. Or to confuse themselves. LOL nt

[Mariana]

70. Like they need any damn help being confused. nt.

[Ilsa]

Oh thanks. It reminds me of a joke a DUer made

When Trig was born: she named him for Trigonometry, because a triangle was involved.

I swear, some DUers are the cleverest people on the planet.

That pic of Levi with his kid is so much more authentic than the one of Bristol bathing him in the kitchen sink, where she was wearing a red suit.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

133. That was me, he said modestly.

And thank you for the complement.

[mzteris]

92. birthdays

Tripp = Dec 28, 2008

Trig = April 18, 2008

doable...

[Blue_In_AK]

96. I don't think Trig is Bristol's baby.

I don't think he's Sarah's baby either. He might be Todd's or Track's, however. That's just my speculation.

[MadHound]

13. I swear, if it wasn't for liberals, Palin wouldn't get even half the press and exposure she gets now

Ignore her and her family, don't bother with what they're doing, and guess what, she and her family will fade away.

Stop feeding the beast.

[Doctor_J]

14. Wrong

If "liberals" don't bring this stuff up, Big Media will have her canonized in time for Campaign 2012.

[MadHound]

17. Umm, it isn't Big Media that is publishing these stories

It isn't Big Media that creates post after post delving into everything Sarah. Hell, on almost any given day now, you find more stories posted about Palin floating around DU than you do on FR.

I don't hear Big Media going on obsessively about Palin, day in, day out. I read posts about Palin here, on these boards, that I never read, hear or see in the MSM. In fact these days, outside of Faux and hate radio, I don't see much about Palin in the MSM.

But each and every single fucking day here, at least two or three posts about Sarah are floating around. It gets old, it gets sickening, it is simply feeding the beast because what people around here seemingly fail to realize that to people like Sarah, any publicity, anytime you mention her name, any print, good, bad or ugly, it's all good for Palin.

She is not a threat in 2012, she has had her fifteen minutes of fame, so just let her fade into the obscurity that she deserves.

[Ichingcarpenter]

19. Wrong and bullshit... just google Palin and news

http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Palin&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=Palin&hl=en&safe=active&client=safari&rls=en&prmd=ivnsul&source=lnms&tbs=nws:1&ei=rT9VTaeLAsGAOu3J6IcF&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=4&ved=0CBIQ_AUoAw&fp=c607b288a8e693bd


Notice the major news agencies?

Don't make up shit just put this thread on hidden.

[MadHound]

23. And meanwhile, when you listen to the MSM on radio,

Watch them on TV, read them in the newspaper, where is Sarah? Oh, yeah, on the cover of the National Enquirer, right next to Bat Boy. Her daughter is on Entertainment Tonight. But serious news, nothing.

But some folks like to wave Palin in our face like she is some totem to be used to scare us, to keep us in line.

Sorry, that doesn't fly. And it's getting old.

Besides, I thought that February was supposed to be the Palin free month at DU. Like crack, I guess some folks can't go without their daily dose of Palin. Booga, Booga!

[Ichingcarpenter]

18. You can't explain that

BTW Many said to ignore the Tea Party, and in the 20s they said ignore Hitler.

You can't explain that.

[MadHound]

21. Yeah, but the difference between both the Tea Party and Hitler as compared with Palin,

Is that at the time, they were rising movements. Palin is in decline, she has had her fifteen minutes and is fading away. Her books are not selling, she's not attending the big, keystone events such as CPAC, her meager credibility, what she had left, was destroyed in the 2010 elections, and the rest of the country has moved on past Palin, treating her more as a tired old joke than an actual, serious, viable political figure.

It is only on the left, places like DU, where some folks keep on dragging her up, ad nauseum, shaking her in our faces, trying to scare us with the specter of Palin.

Give it up, stop trying to scare yourself and the rest of us. And please, don't post pics of BillO this early in the morning, I've barely finished my cup of coffee.

[Ilsa]

106. Tears rolling down my face over your graphics. Thanks. nt

[WinkyDink]

26. You DO know she was a V-P candidate? That FOX loves her?

[MadHound]

32. And yet she isn't in the running for office in 2012,

She didn't run for office in 2010, her influence was negligible in 2010.

And let's not forget that her place on the 2008 ticket was a major reason why McCain and the 'Pugs didn't win in 2008.

She is a has been whose little amount of flash and influence has faded and she has been reduced to headlines on the National Enquirer, right next to Oprah's supposed lesbian affairs.

She is a joke, yet far too many on the left like to use her to scare everybody else. Why is that?

[hlthe2b]

36. Devil's advocate, MadHound... because I do appreciate your POV...

as I am desperately sick and tired of hearing about her. But, I can honestly say that she reminds me so much of how I viewed, then candidate George W. Bush* in 1999-2000. I would NEVER have thought the media would report on him as they did, ignoring the clear skeletons in his closet, as well as the very overt evidence of his mismanaging the governorship in Texas. Instead, they created an entire narrative based on a set of lies and half truths and failed to report anything to the contrary. To the extent we are seeing a turn about in reportage on Palin, likely reflects concern at the top of the RNC hierarchy that knows they need to preempt her. Fortunately. But, otherwise, the MSM seemed all too willing to build her up, just as they did GWBush*.

I believe her to be a very dangerous proposition--not simply incompetent, but dangerous. So, I'm willing to see her exposed and overexposed, if that will seal her fate to the dustbins of US political history.

[MadHound]

38. But really now, how often has she been in the MSM, especially in the last year?

Yes, a caveat, I'm talking about outside of Faux, who pays her and thus is invested in her exposure.

But the reality is that I haven't heard, seen or read about her more in the MSM other than a handful of times. The money folks made clear way back in '08 that she wasn't an acceptable candidate, and they're not going to back her in 2012. Meanwhile, she's skipped CPAC, she is polling at only 19% among Republicans, and "news" about her is relegated to either Faux or the National Enquirer.

She has run her race and failed miserably. She is now simply trying to hang on, be relevant, and keep the money train going for as long as she can. But her actual political power is greatly diminished and still falling. Hell, we pay more attention to Palin on the left, using her as some sort of boogey man to scare the troops in line, than either the MSM or even the RW whacko's does.

All that we're doing when we continue to publish her every little move is give her the attention that she needs and craves. Stop paying attention to her and she will fade away.

[hlthe2b]

41. The MSM has spent the last year referring to her credibly ....

as the favored Presidential candidate or at least the presumed front runner. How can you say they have not given her continued credibility?

It is only very recently (again with what I suspect is the decision of the RNC "grey beards" to let loose on her) that the MSM has been at all critical. Honestly, to see MSM reporters referring to her as a serious candidate the past year or so--with a straight face, no less-- has made me incredulous. But, it has been the pattern.

I say expose the hell out of her and her lies. Otherwise we will see another created puppet--another GWBush* in the White House.

[immoderate]

48. I still think she will be president. Americans LOVE stupid Republicans.

I was incredulous when Nixon was elected. Then Reagan, then Bush. Palin continues the trend of what Americans want.

Note: This is not an endorsement.

--imm

[pulledpork]

52. Nixon was evil and crooked

But he was not stupid. Not by a long shot. Unfortunately, his intellect was outdone by his paranoia. His grasp of international affairs was 180º apart from Palin's. Plus, he created that right-wing bogeyman we call the EPA. But not to go too far off-topic, I will also add:

No argument from me about Reagan or Bush II.

One reason Palin will never be president, however, is that she will not campaign towards the center. Bush II was effective (with media compliance) at pretending to be a center-right candidate ("Compassionate Conservative" and other utter rubbish), while cloaking his far-right bent. Just enough of us knew better, as he actually lost the 2000 election, etc.

Palin is a red-meat-tossing far-right figurehead. She will never appeal beyond her rabid 30% base, and the media will never - as the recent fiasco of her TLC program attests - be successful in helping her manufacture a center-right image. She is incapable of acting the part anyway, as she is wont to just flap her ignorant jaws about any ol' thing that crosses that feeble brain of hers.

Romney will most likely be the '12 Republican nominee, with either Jindal or Haley as the VP choice.

[immoderate]

58. You are just being rational.

I, OTOH, am not.

You are correct, of course. But you will have a hard time explaining how she got to be president. :smoke:

--imm

[pulledpork]

77. Bookmark this thread

And I have to eat crow, I will bring the drinks too. Lots of them, because we will all need them! :-)

[immoderate]

79. I said firmly that Reagan as president was impossible.

Think I want to be caught like that again?

The betting odds for Palin are the same as they were for Obama two years out! No kidding.
http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/13/presidential-betting-odds-for-palin-in-2012-same-as-they-were-for-obama-two-years-before-2008-presidential-election/

Yeah, I know it's the Daily caller.

--imm

[pulledpork]

86. Reagan had crossover appeal

The treacherous 'Reagan Democrats' for example, and the swing voter/independents disenchanted with Carter. Plus, the rise of the Religious Right and their financial muscle. He was also marketed quite effectively. He was an actor playing the president, and looked and sounded the part. It is true that it was once unthinkable he could become president (the subject of a "Laugh-In" skit in fact, when he was governor of California).

Palin will not allow herself to be handled so easily. We saw signs of this in '08. She is a polarizing figure who will be unable to go above that 30% approval ceiling. While she is largely a product of the same Religious Right who helped propel Reagan into power, she has no crossover appeal, no attraction to swing voters/independents, and even some mainstream Republicans are trying to distance her from the picture. She will continue to milk poor suckers out there on the speaking/book tour/Fox News circuit, until one day, mercifully, she will fade from view. Or be trampled by a herd of moose. Please?

I despise Reagan with every fiber of my being, but one more thing he had over Palin: He served 2 complete terms as governor of California, without quitting when facing the heat. Oh, and I'll add that Ron Jr. and Patti turned out far better than Trixie, Truck, Tractor, Brush, and whoever else she spawned, lol.

[Blue_In_AK]

97. Sarah had a lot of crossover appeal

when she was governor. Even my husband and I, staunch Democrats, liked her just fine back in 2007. She worked with the Democratic legislature and made a serious point of being nonpartisan. If she had had any sense, she would have kept up that bipartisan facade and she really would have been a threat in 2012. I'm hopeful that her rabidness on the national stage has done her in as a serious political threat, but you never know.

[Bluenorthwest]

101. That was a silly thing to say, firmly or otherwise

Reagan was twice Governor of a populous State, President of a Union, he had honed his speaking skills for years prior to even running for office at the State level. Most importantly, he had been carefully prepared and constructed by powerful mentors and kingmakers. There is simply no comparison between the two people. He was successful at a long series of things in his life. She was excellent as fodder for Tina Fey.

[whathehell]

131. Umm...No.

and I don't know where you get your information.

Bush never reached 50 percent approval rate after the second election (he was NOT elected, but selected the first time)

Nixon?...an impeached and unpopular ne're do well, but hardly stupid.

Unless you think that an I.Q. of about 180 makes one "stupid".:eyes:

[sylvi]

69. Well, it's kind of like cigarettes

Some people gotta have a Palin every twenty minutes or they get jumpy.

:puke:

[jbnow]

98. Her recent bad press aound her bad speeches during Tuscon coverage

have slowed coverage of her...

but before that every time she made some comment about Obama or his policy it got reported as though it mattered. Obama was even asked to respond to one of her points during an interview. She have the fame to "death panels". Until recently media considered her a serious candidate for 2012 if she chose to run. Not a winner but given the bent of republicans in ear;ly primary states and the winner take all...
She was given lots of credit during midterms, whyever.

Anyway she is not currently given a lot of attention but she was hard to avoid before and I never watch fox
Our attention isn't what will make her rise and fall, but I agree she isn't worth much attention.

This thread seemed for spiteful amusement, a ha-ha-ha on palin and what the heck. She picks on so much that is liberal or Obama related and lies freely, if people enjoy passing on gossip it doesn't bother me.

[whathehell]

76. +100...n/t

[treestar]

125. It's just entertainment value

Sarah is the stuff of soap operas.

[somone]

20. They need to resolve this with Maury

"When it comes to the case of..."

[crazylikafox]

47. LOL... I'd love to watch that show

[cherokeeprogressive]

55. He needs to change the name of his show to "Who My Baby Daddy?" n/t

[Badfish]

24. A bit confused..

“I asked her if she was pregnant…she said no,” Tripp says in the interview. “She didn’t appear to be pregnant and I had no reason to think she was pregnant.”

So , why did she ask if she was pregnant ? Does a massage therapist always ask this ?

[WinkyDink]

28. Probably, yes.

http://www.babycenter.com/0_prenatal-massage-help-for-your-pregnancy-aches-and-pains_11931.bc
But it's also tailored specifically to the needs of pregnant women and their changing bodies, and therapists who are trained in prenatal massage adjust their techniques accordingly.

[pink-o]

29. It's on the disclaimer for services, I bet.

Pregnant women aren't supposed to sit in hot tubs or undergo certain treatments that might compromise the fetus. I bet Ms Tripp has to ask all women clients who're over 16 and under 50 the same question.

[seabeyond]

33. i wonder that too. and how does this woman find herself in the place of asking?

do they run in the same social circle?

[WinkyDink]

59. It's made expressly clear with the term "massage therapist."

[Brickbat]

43. Yes, you need to tell your massage therapist if you're pregnant before you get a massage. It's

on the form or they will ask you.

[a la izquierda]

113. Every time I get a massage...

I'm asked if I'm pregnant. One can get special massages (I think called pregnancy massage) when pregnant, but if one is planning on having a deep tissue or even a regular massage, it can be dangerous to the fetus.

[Joanne98]

30. LOL

[UTUSN]

39. K&R #14 for, I loves the first draft of the news!1 n/t

[gauguin57]

44. I thought of Sarah and Todd while watching "30 Rock" last night ...

... Jack and Avery trying to get to the airport so their child would be born in America rather than Canada. I wonder whether Tina Fey & writers were winking at the Sarah story with that one (I think the "flying back from Texas" story is really only well-known among progressives).

[Bunny]

51. Jack and Avery included a jab at the birthers, too.

They both noted that if their daughter was born in Canada, she'd be ineligible to become President. Avery said that if they were in Kenya, they'd have it covered (or something to that effect.). I laughed.

[tblue37]

87. If even one parent is a US citizen, the baby will be a US citizen.

The parent might need to file some paperwork if the kid is born in another country, but having even one American parent is all the kid would need to be an American--even if he happened to be born on the moon!

[tblue37]

88. A baby with one American parent is American--even if he is born on the moon!

There might be some necessary paperwork to file if the kid is born outside of the US, but the baby will be a US citizen if even one of his parents is.

On edit: Sorry--my first posting attempt didn't show, so I tried again.

[Hubert Flottz]

53. When the nights last six months I guess it's hard to abstain.

Todd probably just couldn't figure out whether to stain or to abstain.

[cherokeeprogressive]

54. Yawned so big I fell over backward and hit my head. n/t

[Missy Vixen]

56. Here's one last theory on this

IF there was a pregnancy, she did everything she could to make sure the fetus wasn't viable. Any person that truly wanted and cared for the unborn child would have gone to the hospital as quickly as possible after "leaking amniotic fluid" in the 8th month. They would not be flying 7,000 miles home after the "leaking amniotic fluid" without being seen by a doctor, not to mention the fact it's hard to believe Alaska Airlines would welcome ANY high-risk pregnant passenger in the stages of labor on one of their jets with no doctor present. The liability would be staggering, for instance, not to mention the discomfort and inconvenience of diverting the flight to the nearest medical facility to an entire planeload of people.

They "drove past" the higher-intervention hospital for the same reason.

Years and years ago, I worked with a perinatal nurse who was opposed to abortion on moral grounds, but told me point blank that if she was carrying a severely compromised fetus, she would have the baby at a low-intervention hospital and "let nature take its course". Yes, it really happened.

Truthfully, I don't believe Ms. Palin gave birth to that baby. Not at all.

IMHO, YMMV.

[WinkyDink]

62. I'm with you. No obviously-pregnant pix; nobody told; the bizarre events you mention; nope.

She is not the mother.

Then there are THESE photos:
Uncle and Aunt, or parents?


Mom?


Or Mom?


Mom?


Or Mom?

[SoCalDem]

66. I said it from DAY ONE

Bristol did not tell Mom until she was pretty far along & was banished to Wasilla with "mono"..

That baby arrived early and the Down syndrome was unexpected & freaked them all out. (Probably in late January) Down babies are often underweight, so Sarah had time to fake the pregnancy and then "have" the baby when he was 6-7 lbs.

She "spared" Bristol from being a teen Mom to a handicapped baby (and defrauded the health insurers at the same time) by claiming the baby was hers.. Her gal-pal Doctor helped her, no doubt.

Bristol was probably pissed at having her baby stolen by Mom, so she made another one..right away..

People will say, this is not important, BUT think back to the time right after she was chosen. Had the truth of this been dug out then, she would have been thoroughly discredited and would probably still be in Alaska, scrubbing moose-doo off her mukluks.

This fake pregnancy is her Achilles Heel, but since it involves "lady-parts", the media shied away from it and accepted the cock & bull story she cooked up..

Don't forget too, that the whole season of "Desperate Housewives" that year revolved around the EXACT storyline of Bree pretending to be pregnant .

Sarah is just shallow enough to think she would do the same.. and unfortunately for all of us, she apparently did.

Why doesn't Bristol say anything?

because she has her healthy baby, and Mom & Dad will take care of the other one.

Why doesn't boyfriend speak up?

same as Bristol, PLUS it's hard enough to pick up girls with one baby you don't support..really creepy if there are TWO , and one is a handicapped baby you gave away to the girl's mom.

[truebrit71]

83. I am totally in agreement with you on this.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XckT2h8g80s/SxW5AEvd1WI/AAAAAAAAAU0/Y0eQp2uyXwA/s400/Sarah+15day+pregnancy.png

[treestar]

117. I think you've got it

All of that is consistent with human nature and Palinism.

[SoCalDem]

126. I really think that if the baby had been healthy, she would have been

forced to give him up for adoption. I doubt seriously that Palin really "wanted" another baby, but when he was handicapped, the whole thing changed. Bristol was sequestered (even forbidden from calling or taking calls from friends), If she was planning to keep the baby, none of that would have been necessary. I don't think she ever wanted anyone to be able to prove that her daughter had had a baby out of wedlock. That's why "Dr. Gal-Pal of Wasilla" was the obvious choice.. Off-kilter adoptions happen all the time. Who knows, maybe even Palin's sister would have been the one to "adopt" the baby....she "owes" Sarah for all the post-divorce favors.

That whole family is in the running for Drama-Queen of the Year...every year, so I put nothing past any of them.

The few people who might have known, probably kept their mouths shut because of sympathy they may have had for Bristol. Can you even imagine being Palin's kid?

[Missy Vixen]

67. Those photos are really telling, aren't they?

Bristol cuddles the baby, Sarah acts like she's going to catch something from him.

EVERY time they appeared on TV, it was obvious that Sarah had no emotional involvement with "her baby" - holding him at arm's length or slumped over one arm, not cuddling him, not showing any warmth. He's a prop.

Poor kid.

[Mariana]

74. That last pic was taken before the press release

telling the world of Bristol's pregnancy. They tried to use the baby Trig and his blanket to cover Bristol's bulging belly. It didn't work, of course. Anyone with a pair of eyes could see that she was pregnant AND that they were using Trig to cover it up.

I believed then, and I still believe now that McCain did not know that Bristol was pregnant until the Palin clan showed up for the convention. I think Sarah didn't tell him. It's the only thing that makes sense. If he had known before that, his campaign would have dealt with it in the press BEFORE the convention even started, and they wouldn't have been reduced to frantically pinning a baby blanket to the front of Bristol's clothes trying to hide her condition until they could figure out how the hell to explain the situation.

I also think it's possible that SARAH didn't know of Bristol's pregnancy when she agreed to run with McCain.

[Poll_Blind]

64. That whole affair was very dodgy and I'm still not satisfied with the "answers" for...

...her behavior at that time.

PB

[Bunny]

65. I mostly agree with you, and I'll go you one further:

Any woman of advanced maternal age, in the last trimester of a pregnancy with more than one high-risk component, would have never flown from Alaska to Texas for that convention in the first place. Never. If she was even pregnant at all, I don't think she had the well-being of that little boy in mind even a tiny bit during the alleged events of the labor and delivery.

Sarah always comes first, doesn't she?

FWIW - I think Trig is Sarah's child, but I think she made up the story about going into labor in TX and flying back to AK for the delivery, so their child could be 'born in Alaska'. :eyes: They probably thought it made them look like folk heroes to their fellow Alaskans, and never imagined how such a story would come across to pretty much everyone else.

[Missy Vixen]

68. She's lying

It will come out. The question is, though - will the Teabaggers continue to laud her afterwards, or will they finally see the light?

And, yeah, you're right - Sarah always comes first. I really don't care for the Palins or their kids, but I can't help but feel sorry for the children of anyone so self-absorbed.

IMHO.

[Mariana]

75. The teabaggers don't want to hear about it.

Try to tell them the story (it's in her book for fuck's sake, they can't even blame the "librul media" for this story) and they just tune you right out.

[Fire Walk With Me]

60. Sarah Who?

[ohheckyeah]

80. If Sarah was pregnant

then why hide it? How many married women do you know who hide the fact they are pregnant until the 5th or 6th month? What's the point?

[Liquorice]

105. Maybe because she didn't want anyone to know at that time? She

isn't obligated to tell people her pregnancy status.

[ohheckyeah]

108. I didn't say she was obligated.

It just seems that it is normal for most women to tell people after the 3rd month.

[Blasphemer]

84. I find it hard to believe Palin would put her giant deception at risk

by telling a massage therapist the truth.

[Blue_In_AK]

90. Oh, yeah, this one's really bubbling just under the surface here.

It could get pretty interesting for Sarah and Todd in the coming months.

As usual, Gryphen at The Immoral Minority is probably the best place to follow this story if you want to keep up with it. http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/

[Texasgal]

91. Bookmarked

for later reading. :popcorn:

[Major Hogwash]

100. Holy Fucking Guacamole!!

Sarah Palin's baby is not Palin's???

And the crowd cheers from the sidelines, "DNA! DNA! DNA!"

Wow, that is so Sarah Palin-ish of her.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

109. Almost forgot

I made an open ended $100 bet with a friend last summer that Bristol has 2 kids. :evilgrin:

But when I win, it will be my dinner treat.

[HipChick]

110. Pregancy mystery solved..

[mainstreetonce]

114. Why do people assume .........

Some seem to assume that if both babies are Bristol's then Levi would speak up.

Why not ponder who the real father of the first baby is?

The part I don't get about Sarah's air travel while in labor story is..................why would she tell such a thing if it wasn't true.

If she had a dr working with her to hide the birth , she could have just announced his birth several days later.
None of it makes any sense

[SoCalDem]

127. Levi would NOT speak up. He's a young vain BOY.

The last thing on his to-do list, is to be father of TWO babies he cannot afford to support...one of them handicapped.

He does not HAVE to support those babies, and that's probably part of the deal he made with Sarah & Todd. The second pregnancy is probably why they hate him so much because they were in the national spotlight and could not "work something out" for that pregnancy....and Sarah is just immature enough to be mad as hell at him for making her take the handicapped baby, while he (they) get to claim & raise the healthy one.. (she's reported to have said something of that nature)

[treestar]

116. What was the motive though?

Hiding Bristol's pregnancy? She would have gotten pregnant again right after. But then maybe they were willing to try it for one but two proved just too much?

Or maybe Sarah had better insurance coverage for a special needs child.

But then this is Sarah Failin we are talking about. The motives of the insane don't have to be logical.

[bettyellen]

130. Image, profits. No one knew she;d go out and get pregnant again.

[Ichingcarpenter]

123. As the Original poster all I have to say is JUICY

I hope some that read this thread


All it the through....... a lot of information and truth.

This is what your nation and media pays for in so many ways

JUICY

MY FRIENDS THIS IS A DANGEROUS PERSON
WHEN YOU PUT HER ON A SCIENCE CHANNEL

[mstinamotorcity]

132. empty

vessel