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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:14 PM
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Ann Coulter: "The Left is Trying to Co-Opt Gays"
WASHINGTON - Conservative commentator Ann Coulter brought today's audience at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington to its feet in applause after urging the Republican party to include gays - perhaps getting the last word on the place gays have in the conservative movement after a tussle that pitted social conservatives against libertarians at this year's conference.

"The left is trying to co-opt gays," she said. "They should be on our side."

The fight over the Republican party's acceptance of gay conservatives and gay rights came to a head at CPAC, after organizers invited the gay conservative group GOProud to be an official participant. Some social conservative groups protested the convention as a result, but gay conservatives and their allies this week declared victory, observing that they were well-received at the event.

Coulter noted today that she has been a strong supporter of GOProud. The right should embrace gays, women and other minority groups that liberals are trying to exploit, she said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20031658-503544.html

:crazy: :silly: :wtf:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:15 PM
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1. Oh HELL no.
:crazy:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:15 PM
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2. Sometimes you just gotta laugh...
Why does anyone listen to that creature anymore?
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:15 PM
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3. Anne Coulter is
an ass, a breaker of voting laws (tho' not convicted because of "people in high places"), a farce, a joke, an abomination...a has been.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:17 PM
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4. As Darth Cheney said "Ann, go fuck yourself!"
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:19 PM
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5. hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Oh Annie!
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:21 PM
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6. Including her?
:rofl:
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:21 PM
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7. Yeah gay people, get with it!
You should be on the side of people who would rather see you dead, horribly maimed, disfigured, burned alive, beaten regularly to a pulp, and taunted whenever you're seen or suspected. What's the matter, here? Oh, and you women? Don't you just feel the love when conservatives want to make your body public property?

Ann Coulter has made a choice and it makes her wealthy and miserable. She needs company, because she can't admit error, and the money is just so good.
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jimmie Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:22 PM
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8. Is GOProud ...
the same or different than LOG Cabin republicans?

Someday someone will have to explain to me how any GLBT could be a repuke.
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:33 PM
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15. I know some gay Republicans;
one is a good friend. Gay people can be greedy and selfish, too.
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CommonSensePLZ Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 09:09 PM
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27. Giving money and power to the people who consider you inferior
Edited on Sat Feb-12-11 09:10 PM by CommonSensePLZ
Borders on selling your soul, doesn't it?
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 09:22 PM
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30. That's not how they view it (and I agree with them, for the most part).
Most gay Republicans looked at the two parties and decided they agreed with the GOP on most issues. Nothing hypocritical about that.

Hopefully though they don't support the GOP's position on gay rights.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:38 PM
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18. they make the log cabin republicans look sane
they are against ENDA and were against the court case by the lcr to end DADT.
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jimmie Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:44 PM
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19. Thank you... I never knew that.
Edited on Sat Feb-12-11 06:45 PM by jimmie
I did see the head of GOProud on msnbc and he seemed like a nice guy...totally misguided but nice guy.

Wow.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 08:36 PM
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23. I know many. And despite being conservative, they're good people.
Homosexuality is not the defining characteristic of people who are homosexual, and I object to the idea that we can't reasonably be conservative.
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jimmie Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 08:42 PM
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24. True
Good point
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:24 PM
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9. That would be a cold day
:rofl:

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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:24 PM
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10. Trying to co-opt gays??? Really? I think they have done everything
in their power to stigmitize gays, harrass them, and deny them rights.

And now it is a wicked plot by the left? LOL
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:25 PM
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11. Why wasn't Drudge or Rush or Dreier or Grover or Mehlman or Armstrong Williams making that speech?
:shrug:
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:25 PM
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12. This idiot wants to include everybody yet wants to take away a womens right to choose an abortion
Edited on Sat Feb-12-11 06:27 PM by southernyankeebelle
or not to have an abortion. Liberals you better open your damns eye. The right is taking away your rights.
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sibelian Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:31 PM
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13. Gay conservatives. Wow. You know, I'm gay, and

I'm more angry with gay conservatives than homophobic people.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 08:54 PM
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25. Really? I do believe many gay conservatives have a self-hate thing going on, but
Edited on Sat Feb-12-11 08:57 PM by Hosnon
they're not against their own existence (like homophobes).

However, it does irk me when they're not really that knowledgeable and seem to have simply downloaded the Republican platform and memorized it. I know two who are anti-gay marriage and it blows my mind. Think cutting taxes is magic? Fine. But anti-gay rights?
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:31 PM
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14. I'm looking at this another way....
Edited on Sat Feb-12-11 06:32 PM by TheMightyFavog
Civil war within the GOP between the Business/Libertarian wing and the Fundies. Could happen.

I'm thinking that certain scenarios could lead to the fundies deserting, possibly setting up their own party...
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:35 PM
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16. CPAC Organizer Suggests He May Cut Ties With GOProud

CPAC Organizer Suggests He May Cut Ties With GOProud

Al Cardenas, the new director of the American Conservative Union, the organizing body behind the annual CPAC conference, said Thursday that "it's going to be difficult to continue the relationship" that they've had with the gay Republican group GOProud for the past two years.

Full article here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/11/cpac-goproud-al-cardenas_n_821972.html

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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:35 PM
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17. oh yeah, she's a friend of gays
:eyes:

"I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate, John Edwards, but it turns out that you have to go into rehab if you use the word 'faggot,' so I'm - so, kind of at an impasse, can't really talk about Edwards, so I think I'll just conclude here and take your questions," said Coulter, whose comment was followed by applause.
http://articles.cnn.com/2007-03-04/politics/coulter.edwards_1_anti-gay-slur-neil-g-giuliano-ann-coulter?_s=PM:POLITICS
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:48 PM
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20. With all that bad weave in her head she better start making friends with the gays.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 08:22 PM
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21. This from a woman that has a long history of calling some men "girly men"
Coulter's gig has always been hate.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 08:31 PM
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22. Don't worry - we're not stupid. But this is a very good development overall.
Finally, gays are being accepted by the Right (even if for purely political reasons).
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 10:03 AM
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32. No. They are not.
The wacko teabaggers want votes. They have done nothing to indicate in even the remotest way they are considering equal right for everyone.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 11:45 AM
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36. Did you miss the parenthetical?
If the Right starts backing down (which this clearly indicates they are starting to), it's a win for gay rights. They may not sincerely support us but they will have to stop obstructing the march of equality.
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 12:00 PM
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39. I do not think that is the plan for them
That is what they want gays to think, just to get votes but they have no intention of granting even the most basic civil rights. They are not backing down, they are simply spouting bullshit... as is their norm.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 12:10 PM
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40. That would only be effective for so long. And in the meantime, the public rhetoric
would be moderated; the issue becomes even more of a non-issue.

This is a good thing, in my opinion. And I don't think gays will be easily fooled. However, as is pointed out down-thread, Dems run the risk of losing many gays if the GOP does actually get serious about equality (given the lack of purpose on Dems' part).
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CommonSensePLZ Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 09:08 PM
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26. LOL no wtf here
Edited on Sat Feb-12-11 09:11 PM by CommonSensePLZ
No, I seriously laughed when I saw this and I think everyone knows why. "Trying to exploit"? Did the last 40 years of us being the only ones that gave a damn about gay rights not happen?

But this is to be expected, it's just strategy. Appealing only to "straight," white, "Christians" worked for a few hundred years, but the country's demographics are changing and, well, she wants her side to have the numbers on its side is all. I mean really, we elect Obama, they put in Mike Steele. Soon they're gonna wants Hispanics (largest minority and growing) on their side but will still want to keep America English-only and *whispers* white.

Good luck with trying to get the gay vote while lobbying against their rights, guys! :sarcasm:
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 09:14 PM
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28. And the Right is trying to kill them. n/t
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Scottybeamer70 Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 09:20 PM
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29. I know
two gay men who are repubs, mormon, and love shopping at walmart.
They told me they would vote for the quitter if she ran.....I told
them I thought she was an idiot.............haven't heard from them
since...........which is fine with me....:)
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jimmie Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 09:47 AM
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31. That's scary...
Talk about voting against yourself.
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du_da Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 10:06 AM
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33. There is actually some logic behind this
and the end result for us being either really good or really bad depending on who wins. What is going on here, and why this seems odd to us is that this is an illustration of the civil war that is occurring in the Republican party. The libertarian/economic conservatives are rebuilding the party from within into one that closely aligns with the views of a significant portion of the populace. This is the small government even when it means letting people live their own lives crowd. Basically this group has realized that they lost the battles on the social issues so to win the war they are conceding those areas and focusing purely on economic issues. The road block they are running into is the group that used to be called the Christian Coalition. These are the ones who are willing to let the economic issues go whichever way the winds blow so long as they get to dictate social policy.

At first glance, it would seem that we want libertarian side to win this battle but that is actually the exact opposite of what we want. We need the social conservatives to maintain control of the party, that will bolster our position in the electorate more so than other single action we might take. If the libertarian side gets control of the party, then we are in trouble because without the social issues to focus on then we have a very difficult road ahead of us come election time because our economic ideals while sound are not popular and they are a hard sell.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 11:50 AM
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37. That reads like you're advocating trading equaliy for political victory.
Social conservatives are the remaining roadblock to equal rights. I'd rather see them go and have to fight a more reasonable GOP.
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du_da Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 04:51 PM
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42. If they were a real threat
then I would agree. However, they lost the fight in the court of public opinion already so as you noted they are at best a road block. I will take a road block and the ability to drive the car vs relegated to the backseat but with some input as to the general direction.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 10:23 AM
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34. Translation: I'm the REAL outrageous, screeching, wingnut harpy!
Ignore those other pretenders, it's ME! ME! ME!
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 10:26 AM
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35. I've been saying for quite some time that if Republicans
Edited on Sun Feb-13-11 10:28 AM by justiceischeap
step up and side on gay issues, a lot of gay people I know would side with them because they are issue voters and their most important issue is civil rights--our own civil rights. As a lesbian, I would have to take a long look at a Republican candidate and the party as a whole if they promised me my civil rights. It's a good political tool to use and I think many conservatives see a well-spring of votes if they are more accepting of the gay community.

I'm tired of the Democratic party promising to do something about granting me the same basic rights everyone else gets and then doing nothing with those promises. In a way Coulter is correct, the left does co-opt gays but then drops us like a hot potato as soon as they're elected. Why wouldn't the right see this and not want to take part too?
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 11:54 AM
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38. I agree. And it's frustrating that so many people think it is contradictory to be conservative
and gay. Homosexuality is but one facet of me. Now, I happen to also be left across the board but I know many gay people who aren't.

If the GOP accepts gay people, many will come out as Republicans.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 12:28 PM
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41. Didn't Ann say some really nasty things about gay people during the W years?
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 05:05 PM
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43. "...gays, women and other minority groups..."
Really?

Holy cow...I never realized that there are, like, only three women for every 500 men in the US...

:+

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