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[pettypace]

1. Anything to be re-elected next year

What else matters.

[WolfoftheWild]

13. He'll be re-elected. That much is assured.

[bigwillq]

38. Hello.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[ohheckyeah]

2. .......

"In a televised Chamber of Commerce speech this week, Boy Obama abandons and rebukes the American Left."

Seriously? Why would he use the term boy to refer to Obama?

[Bluebear]

4. No earthly idea.

If that's not an unfortunate misprint, it's a heck of a horrible slur!

[ohheckyeah]

5. I went back and read it three times

wondering if I read it wrong somehow. I don't think I did.

[Canuckistanian]

6. Wow, it's actually in there

"Boy" Obama?

[ohheckyeah]

8. I wouldn't make something like that up.

It's disgusting.

[LooseWilly]

17. Where did that quote come from? I don't see it in the linked article.

Is it in something about the Chamber of Commerce?


**Edit** oops, nevermind... found it on the third read through.
Wow... maybe somebody was trying to use some sort of boxing/youthful something... and was so damned clueless that they missed a couple of hundred years worth of history... or maybe the Democratic "big tent" is being purposefully set on fire...

Truly shameful.

[Bluebear]

20. I emailed the editor and will certainly report back his reply!

[LooseWilly]

25. Yeah, I know how hectic and quick a news site can move... editors can miss shit.

I know I've spotted errors editors have introduced into stuff I've written... in the process of editing it—but this is bad.

I could see how some writer might be trying to play of the cliché of "boy genius"... but, this is bad. It's hard not to suspect some element of intention was involved. I hope the editor will take some unfortunately necessary harsh step... or be unfortunately necessarily harshly stepped upon.

At the very least an acknowledging apology is needed. I mean, I could understand tempers and prop 8 and all that... but as a very bare minimum that is needed...

Unfortunate... and untimely. :-(

[somone]

3. From The Onion, October 22, 2008

[bluestateguy]

7. He lost me with the "Boy Obama" crack

And it also confirms what I have believed for awhile now, that much of the Left wing criticism (just like the teabagger criticism) of this president is racially motivated.

[pa28]

11. So that confirms it?

Congratulations. I think you found the lowest common denominator.

[Scurrilous]

14. A “Former Gay Democrat; Now A Gay Tea Party Republican”

"Frankly, “Don’t Ask; Don’t Tell” actually works. The military leaves your private bedroom behavior alone and discreet, patriotic Gays can focus on serving their country. If some Gays want to get thrown out of the military by forcing their Gayness in their commander’s face, then obviously they don’t have the bearing to be in the military."

<snip>

"I am fed-up with being told that because I am Gay, I must vote Democratic! Otherwise, I will hate myself. I am tired of Gay left-wing demagoguery in the Gay blogs and publications.

In 2008, over one out of three Gay voters voted for John McCain in an otherwise dismal year for the GOP. They must have been on to something. I can only hope, for my country and for my unemployed friends and family, that even more Gays will vote Republican in November."

A faithful reader,
Peter Ryskewecz
Retired Public School Teacher
Fort Lauderdale, Florida


http://blog.mysocalledgaylife.com/mscgl/2010/10/06/3708

:o

[Union Scribe]

24. You've believed it because that makes it easy for you to dismiss it

without actually, ya know, thinking about whether the criticism is warranted.

[mmonk]

41. Really?

How convenient. Nobody has a point view other than Obama, its always about race?

[msongs]

9. obama will have to move far left to get to the center at this point nt

[upi402]

16. ^+1,000 n/t

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[Angry Dragon]

12. We will see if the tax cuts end

I have deep doubts of that happening
The wars will continue

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[LooseWilly]

28. In his budget he calls for tax cut for rich to end... in 2 years.

I don't recall anything about him calling for more money for foodstamps... I'd need to see documentation to buy that.

He did call for more money for education... but with Arne at the helm, that seems to be money aimed at creating non-unionized charter schools... under the apparent presumption that non-unionized=more energetic (or something equally fuzzy but happy for the private school creation folks).

He also called for more money for high speed rail. I'm a fan.

I seem to recall (I was really young at the time) Reagan raising taxes... not extending tax-cuts. I remember talk about "welfare queens", but it was Clinton who started the "Welfare to Work" shite, as I recall.

No Republican has ever been able to get the support to privatize schools... Obama might well manage great strides on this Right Wing Priority.

I don't think Reagan was against infrastructure improvements...

Hmm... all told, Obama's seeming a bit to the Right of Reagan to me. Care to share your scoring?

[apocalypsehow]

15. "Boy Obama" - Are you kidding me? You are on DU linking to an article containing that kind of slur?

Why not just link to a critical article about President Obama from, oh, I don't know, say...Stormfront? :shrug:

:eyes:

Definite UnRec.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

18. The anti-Obama sentiment was too attractive.

Obama repeals DADT, but this article is written by a guy who supports DADT yet criticizes Obama for letting down the gay community. :crazy:

[Bluebear]

21. To begin with, Obama did not 'repeal DADT'. Secondly, was that supposed to end criticism?

Gay people can't want Gitmo closed? Or the wars to stop? Or people to have heating assistance?

" :crazy: "

[Starbucks Anarchist]

30. Yes, he did.

True, many activists, etc. helped push it along, but it was Obama's signature that sealed the deal. And you know this is true because many posters (including yourself) constantly berated him for not signing the repeal, but when he actually did, only crickets could be heard from you guys.

And no, GLBT concerns aren't limited to the issues that affect them specifically, but it's funny to see the goalposts moved again. You constantly posted anti-Obama articles dealing with those specific issues, and when he came through on most of them, you decided to take a different tack.

Personally, I don't care if you can't stand the man, but at least be honest about where you're coming from. And if you want to link to a criticism of his policies, make sure the writer isn't a racist, self-hating gay person.

[Bluebear]

31. Glad you have that all off your chest, and for hinting that I am a racist.

Because I have to "take a different tack", you know, since I am all 'anti-Obama' for no other reason and have to move the goalposts. Never mind that Obama keeps moving the goalposts by becoming more and more 'centrist' and freezing out the poor.

Some "anarchist". /ignore gladly

[Starbucks Anarchist]

32. I never claimed you were a racist and have no reason to believe you are one.

I just think you got caught up in your anti-Obama screeds and forgot to double-check your sources. It's an honest mistake.

All I'm asking for is some consistency on your part. You can't constantly complain that Obama hasn't repealed DADT and then fall completely silent when he actually does. You can't have it both ways. Either he did what you wanted him to do or he didn't, and given your feelings towards DADT, I know you're happy DADT was repealed (like the rest of us), yet you can't even give him marginal credit for it.

So when you act that petty, Bluebear, can't you see how that attitude colors everything else you post? When you can't even give Obama credit for doing exactly what you begged him to do, then yes, your constant bashing of him seems to be based on nothing but spite instead of legitimate criticism.

Feel free to ignore me, as that is your right, but I'm the one who will at least confront you and others on their claims instead of literally ignoring them. I think you're a smart guy, but you seem too quick to anger and that doesn't help the discussion here.

[Number23]

37. "You can't have it both ways." Apparently, he thinks that he can.

Edit: I simply cannot believe that this shit is allowed on this web site.

[treestar]

34. It should have ended the "Obama let down the LGTB community" stuff.

At least, to reasonable people.

Those other issues are not specific to that community.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

19. Did you check out post #14 in this thread?

You know, just so you know who you're quoting.

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[cali]

26. unrec

[cali]

27. Disliking Obama and his policies does not excuse racism

it's disgusting that a piece that refers to him as "boy obama" has fucking any recs. And it's bizarre that anyone would post an article with such blatant racism.

[Number23]

40. It's not bizarre to anyone who's been paying even the slightest bit of attention

Not one damn bit bizarre.

[pampango]

29. Always wondered who the ex-Democratic teabaggers were. All the baggers seem to repubs but

surveys always seem to show that a small percentage were Democrats before making the jump.

If the author is now a teabagger and wished that DADT was still in effect, then his opinion of Obama is not surprising.

South Korea is hardly a source of "overseas cheap labor - $30,200 (PPP) with a much more equitable distribution of income (Gini - 31.3) than the US (45); The author might as well consider Canada as a source of "overseas cheap labor - $41,000 (PPP) with an equally excellent income distribution - 31.5. By comparison, the EU has a lower PPP ($29,700) than South Korea with a similar Gini of 31. Admittedly there are some differences: South Korea is indeed "overseas" (as is the EU), South Koreans are all Asians, and South Koreans were poor much more recently than Canadians (Europe post-WWII was similar to South Korea after the Korean War).

An author who categorizes South Korea (or Japan or Taiwan, all richer per capita than the EU) as "overseas cheap labor" would seem to be seeking to score political points through caricature. Foreigners ("they") are all just a vast sea of "cheap labor" out to get "us". Asia, in particular, is teaming with "thems" out to get "us". No need to differentiate between "poor" Asian countries and "rich" ones like we do with say European countries - Poland "poor", Germany "rich".

[treestar]

33. What about the repeal of DADT?

There was a time that seemed very important.

[JoePhilly]

39. It never happened, apparently ... nt

[VeryConfused]

35. This appears to come from a racist publication that refers to our President as "boy"

[Solomon]

36. Pwned!!

LOL