To all the Freepers and Teabaggers going to the Pro-Gov Walker on Saturday please remember this....

[LynneSin]

That without the Unions you mock you'd be working long hours and probably on Saturdays too. Make sure you thank them when you see them.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2675679/posts

[Sherman A1]

1. That would be a good line to add to a LTTE

in their local newspapers.

[AsahinaKimi]

2. I wonder if

MSNBC will cover this.. the teabaggers think they are so bold.. we shall see.

[Skip_In_Boulder]

3. There not smart enough to get that. n/t

[DainBramaged]

4. And their taxes would be TRIPLED from all of the privatization

"Union thugs" what assholes these Frepers are.

[hobbit709]

6. In the history of unions, the "thuggery" was pretty much done by management.

[du_da]

7. If only that were true.

The problem is that union members have a bad reputation, and well earned, for taking out their frustrations on the so called "scabs".

If unions want to survive they have to adapt to the modern standards of our society. The top of that list is that they have to accept the same standard we placed on corporations they have to be able to work in a competitive environment and cannot be allowed to thrive toward monopolization principals. Unions have to come to grip with the fact that people won't accept a double standard.

Next on the list, they need to evaluate the tools that they seek to forward to determine if they are in the best interest of the union members. For example society has pretty much abandoned pensions as a sound long term investment strategy except for those who put their lives on the line like military, police, and firefighters where pensions are viewed as a continuation of salary for such a dangerous job. Quite frankly, with the standard of employment tenure having drastically changed I have to agree with them. I will take a 401k that I can transfer into an IRA any day of the week and twice on Sundays over a pension program simply because we don't stay at one company for 30 years anymore.

So what does that mean for unions, maybe it is time that they accept that just because pension plans were good in the past that this doesn't make them good for the future. For example, next time the union members go in and negotiate a contract, maybe they negotiate for 401ks instead of pension plans with a guaranteed salary match lets say 5% and since some people are not keen on the stock market maybe they negotiate that the investment plan offer more traditional investment options like federal bonds. In a nut shell, when it comes retirement unions are not seeing the forest for the trees and are not keeping up with the times. There are other mechanisms that are just as if not more beneficial to the union member and more palatable to the company. I used the current financial tools, but keep in mind there is nothing saying that unions could work to define even better tools for modern workers.

There are also any number of other things unions could be focusing on such as dress codes, flex time, and compnay paid training the last two being good examples that can be union specific so as to help justify volunteery union participation. These are all the modern equivalents to the really positive changes unions brought about years ago but in their zeal to focus on paychecks have lost sight of and why they are not viewed by the populace as particularly useful today.

[malaise]

10. Yes indeed

Dress codes are way more important than safety at the workplace or hours of work.
:puke:

[hobbit709]

12. Oh yeah, there was nothing like the strikebreaking thuggery by the owners.

[Doctor_J]

16. I've read a few of your posts lately

Are you sure you're in the right place? The reason "they are not viewed by the populace as particularly useful today" is the billion-dollar propaganda apparatus owned by the hyper-rich. Nearly all of the rich nations have pensions, so they obviously aren't as passe' as you claim.

Seriesly, check the name of this site again. It might save you from alot of abuse and humiliation.

[girl gone mad]

5. k & r

[cordelia]

8. K & R

[ehrnst]

9. I mentioned that to a rethug. His reply:

"That was a long time ago. No one's going to abuse workers now. We don't need unions anymore."

[Liberal In Texas]

13. No, of course not. They just want to eliminate minimum wage and return to the days of child labor.

Six day weeks can't be far behind, with no overtime.

These people are deluded and brainwashed.

[HughBeaumont]

14. PFFFFFFFFTT!

Show him these charts. This is what de-unionization gets you:







Which all leads to you taking home the exact same over thirty years, but keeping WAY less. You save in pennies, your cost of living goes up by dollars!



TeaBirthers make me cringe. How can people be so steadfastly DUMB?

[PVnRT]

11. They don't care

[HughBeaumont]

15. They'd be working 7 days a week, 14 hours a day, very few breaks for 3.25 an hour next to a child.

You Republicans say THANK YOU UNIONS and God Bless AMERICA! Shitbags.