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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 02:29 PM
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Q: Do we need to break out those second amendment remedies?
A: No. The second amendment remedies are heretofore only needed by people on the wrong side of our democracy. This is an extra-democracy method. A method of fighting against your fellow citizen which is actually called treason.

No, we on the left believe in using our First Amendment remedies. Those that involve non-violent assembly to have grievance against a fairly elected government representative, when we believe that his/her actions are unconstitutional, or just against the will of the majority of sane citizens practicing their obligations to their fellow citizens and the common good.

That's what we are witnessing now. The robustness of our most important right. This right must be exercised when needed to preserve our union and our way of life.

So as they continue to bus Teabaggers from West Virginia and all points south to shutdown free speech in Wisconsin.

I believe the rule of law and the first amendment and good ol' common sense will ultimately prevail.

Bless the protesters, since they are us! :patriot:
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 02:30 PM
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1. Excellent! n/t
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 02:34 PM
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2. I hope these protesters stand strong.
Bus teabaggers in to shut down free speech??? who is giving them their marching orders? creeps.
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 02:35 PM
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3. The KOCKSUCKERS!! (and their front group FreedomWorks).
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 02:45 PM
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4. They're bussing in teabaggers to Wisconsin?????
Tea baggers are flooding into Wisconsin to protest the protesters??

I smell a rat--or several of them--who want the focus to be on RIOTS and VIOLENCE.
If they're doing this, they're creating reasons to shut this thing down.

FIGURES!
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 02:47 PM
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5. I don't know - I think they just may get their just desserts by comming here.
I hope they catch it all on film.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 02:49 PM
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6. Woo Hoo!
Teabaggers to march on Madison, saturday (source Ed Show)
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 02:50 PM
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7. I'm a strong RKBA advocate, and I favor First Amendment remedies too
Second Amendment remedies would be appropriate only AFTER a total breakdown of civil order.
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 02:51 PM
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8. That may be when the 'baggers show up! BWAHAHAHA!
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 02:56 PM
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9. The 'baggers are pussies. They're all hat and no cattle. They talk the talk, but when push...
...comes to shove they won't walk the walk.

I am prepared to arm every family on my street with a Mosin-Nagant rifle and 100 rounds of ammunition, if they so desire.
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 02:58 PM
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10. (we know that) I'm just trying to egg them on - put up or shut up you geriatric gomers!
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SlimJimmy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 03:03 PM
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12. I offer exhibit A. How are we any different than *them*? I am a strong
RKBA advocate, but I would never even consider such an action.

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 03:05 PM
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13. I'm talking about an extreme situation, such as the aftermath of a catastrophic earthquake
One in which the regular government-provided security forces such as police and the National Guard are unable to provide protection.

The purpose would be to help people survive, not to take over the country.
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SlimJimmy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 03:12 PM
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15. In that case, I agree and would probably do the same. I was
under the impression that you were ready to arm your neighbors against teabaggers. :)
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 03:16 PM
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16. I regard teabaggers as harmless kooks
All bark and no bite.
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SlimJimmy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 03:22 PM
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17. I would respectfully disagree. Even one armed "kook" is enough to cause a firestorm of hurt. (nt)
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 03:24 PM
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18. They don't have the stones to actually hurt anyone
:hi:
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SlimJimmy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:44 PM
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19. True ...
:fistbump:
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 02:58 PM
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11. CLANG, may I use your phrase in a LTTE?
"First Amendment remedies" - well said my friend.
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 03:05 PM
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14. Sure - the more the merrier!
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:47 PM
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20. I'd say we should exercise our 2nd Amendment rights, too. (Hear me out, I'm not advocating violence
And the reason for that is because wherever and whenever we are out exercising our 1st Amendment rights, there is always the looming possibility that some lunatic fringe rightie will incite violence, counting on all of us being unarmed. The rhetoric from that side makes this inevitable. And I, for one, have no wish to be a martyr.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:53 PM
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22. +1000
I've been saying it for a while, every time the nutters get nuttier, arm yourselves and keep your eyes peeled. :o
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:50 PM
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21. 2nd Amendment remedies are dystopic fantasies held by adolescents...
2nd Amendment remedies are dystopic fantasies held by adolescents who have read too many hack-authored science-fiction sub-literature.
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