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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:26 PM
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Regulations Are Bad
It is the radical right republicans that say that corporations can regulate themselves.
There is no need for intrusive regulations. Corporate taxes are bad. They stop job growth.
Taxes on the most wealthy stop job growth.

From where I sit then it only makes sense to get rid of all regulations, get rid of all corporate taxes, get rid of all taxes forever.
By doing these things this country should be just fine, it will create jobs for everyone, huge increases in wages, and we will shall live happily ever after.

Now that I have opened my eyes and woken up from my dream, I have to ask myself how come no one asks these pimple headed maggots to prove it. Prove that corporations do not need regulations, corporations will create jobs if their taxes are reduced or eliminated, that the wealthy will create jobs if their taxes are reduced. Are they willing to guarantee any of these things?? Hell NO!!. Because they know full well that these things will not do the things that they say they will.

It is my view that anytime a politician does things to put the people of this country at risk , then they are a traitor to this country and in violation of the Constitution that they swore an oath to.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:34 PM
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1. I've always believed
that if we're even debating whether or not regulations are needed, it's pretty obvious that we do. If corporations were adequately policing themselves, there wouldn't be a need for government to step in at all. Come to think of it, if capitalism was the *marvel* that Republicans/conservatives ALWAYS claim that it is, then government wouldn't have had to gradually intervene and create programs to address deficiencies and/or malfeasance in the system over the years.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:36 PM
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2. That could be the problem
Your post uses logic, it seems that logic is something that is alien to the radical right republican.
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:57 PM
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5. The word, altruism, should be made archaic, at this point.
How many of you have been literally floored when you see a documentaries that reveal the myriad of abuses to people, animals and the environment by corporations? They are everywhere and almost ubiquitous.

There is a lot of damaged done, both short-term and in the long-term. Despite the millions they spend on PR and glossy, "we care" cover-ups, the destruction is so severe, it is getting harder to put a bow and some wrapping paper on it to keep it under wraps.

Now, who in their right mind would take out all the stops and let corporations policed themselves or expect them to practice altruism when you seriously take into consideration the nature and purpose of a corporation? The corporate veil was originally intended to shield individuals from liability, thus reducing risk. Though that veil is meant to be pieced if malfeasance and illegal activity is suspected, we can see that mega-corps with huge legal funds and lots of influence rarely see their executives held accountable or sent to prison.

The sole purpose of a corporation and its controlling executives is to create and preserve profit. They are legally obligated to do so above all else. Regulations are the only practical way to stop or, at the very least, limit the amount of damage a herd of stampeding profit buffaloes can do in heated pursuit of their purpose.

While the illusion is that there are many, many shareholders that "own" the company, it is those who hold the controlling interest that can be called the owners and the major recipients of the wine that fills all holy grail of profit. So, as the corporate charter has morphed over decades to strengthen and increase the power of that fictitious entity, elevating it to the ranks of person-hood, it is, for the large part, a well-crafted mask and a cloak of protection for Elites who are free to suck, as profit, the wealth of those who work for them into their coffers freely and with immunity and a form of anonymity. They become more and more powerful, not because they are inherently powerful people, but because they take the power from the people under their control and influence.

Now, the size and the money give the illusion weavers more potential to move and sway the masses. Oh, they were great at manufacturing wants and needs before, but now that predatory influence has taken root in every aspect of our lives and, for profit's sake, will take over completely if left unchecked.

Regulations? You bet! Essential. While corporations say they are hindered by them, that's just a whiny ruse. Regulations may be the only barrier to a virtual hell on Earth under total corporate rule.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:15 PM
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8. Everything you say is true
How come the republicans can not see this??
How blind do they have to be??

I remember during the elections listening to Rand Paul talking about regulations. He said that if some people died from eating bad food, people would then just stop eating it and that would just take care of the problem. So he could not see where regulations were really needed. This coming from a person that has had some medical training.
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:35 PM
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10. Well, if you mean the
republicans who vote the rabid, corporate henchmen and shills, (that we are seeing emerge now from their septic tanks) I would assume that they fall prey to orchestrated, well-paid for media campaigns and other methods of manufacturing consent that are time-tested and work exceedingly well.

It takes some effort, knowledge and open-mindedness to get beyond illegitimate corporate media propaganda and to see through the out-right lies of republican candidates. They are pros, you know.

What I see now generally, and it is my opinion, is that it has come down to a form of corporate blackmail on a massive level. They are saying: "Want Jobs? Getting desperate? Well, we are sitting on more than a trillion in surplus cash now! Well, you must agree to our demands. Give us everything we want now, or you'll all be homeless in the street." Of course, even if you took their word for it, creating jobs is just not that profitable here when you have outsourcing; insourcing, (prison labor) and ever-increasing and improving automation going for you. So far, its a wish and a promise, a hope and a prayer as far as what we get from the Corporate Occupation.

Their henchmen are using all kinds of techniques to make that sound like a sweet deal or divert attention AWAY from what is going on by bringing up the size of government, deficits ... whatever works to manufacture consent to get us to the slaughterhouse quickly and with as little resistance as possible.

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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:39 PM
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3. Then why do they demand regulation of collective bargaining?
Regulations on the rich are bad. Regulations on the working class are, of course, necessary.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 04:57 PM
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4. All one has to do is to look around and find out who is
more important in this country.

The radical right republicans want all regulations for corporations gotten rid of.
They then turn around and tell women everything they can and can not do with their bodies.
If you drive too fast you are arrested because you may hurt someone. If you pollute a river
nothing happens to the corporation. They want to get rid of the EPA, FDA.
They care nothing of the people that they are elected to protect and serve.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:00 PM
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6. With that reasoning why have speed limits?
Only regulate the masses but let the Corps run a muck. Yea right.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:07 PM
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7. That is what they want
They do not want you to be able to organize for better wages and benefits.
A guy in Georgia wants to get rid of drivers' licenses
All the trouble in this country can be traced back to the people that punch a clock.
Any of these people telling you they are taking a cut in wages and benefits to help out this country??
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:22 PM
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9. You did have to bring up drivers liscenses didn't you.
Edited on Fri Feb-18-11 05:22 PM by RegieRocker
I believe you have a right to drive at a certain age unless you're physically or mentally unable to do so or due to a criminal charge. I feel a National ID that states you have a restriction to drive because of the above is more correct. No license necessary.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:42 PM
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11. Who knows how much information would be put on that national ID
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-11 05:49 PM
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12. I have news for you. There already is much information
Edited on Fri Feb-18-11 06:12 PM by RegieRocker
about everyone.
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