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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:15 PM
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Libyan Revolution Tweets, Day 4, Part 12 (Horrific bloodbath last night)
Libyan Revolution Tweets, Day 4, Part 12 (Horrific bloodbath last night)

Previous threads from today: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6, Part 7, Part 8, http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x467432">Part 9, Part 10, http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x468671">Part 11


Occasionally, since the people I follow cover Bahrain, Yemen and Jordan also, if I see something really important about those countries, I'll post it here but I plan to mostly focus on Libya because they're having the hardest time getting the word out and Qaddafi's brutality is more systematic and I believe the scale exceeds the brutality in the other country.

They're also the country with the most propagandists on Twitter.

To make sure the Army doesn't swing the revolution to the people, Qaddafi has brought in thousands of mercenaries from Pakistan, Bangladesh and other North African coutries, specifically Chad. There's a Facebook video of a captured mercenary from Chad http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=103697256377254&oid=179449562095105 (Youtube link here) Their confessions are that they've been offered between $12,000 - $30,000 each.

Libya protests: 'Terror and bribery are blunt tools now'
Author Hisham Matar pleads with Muammar Gaddafi to hold his troops back

Hisham Matar
guardian.co.uk, Friday 18 February 2011 20.50 GMT

...

The regime became nervous, promising students a large number of generous scholarships abroad. Then it vowed to increase salaries.

...

On the 16th, a day before the planned protests, Libyan's could no longer wait. They went out in Benghazi. There was a palpable fear that the hot-blooded second city was going it alone, that the few thousand protesters were lambs going to slaughter. Their courage seemed unimaginable.

Late that night one of the Benghazi protestors posted a video on YouTube. He looked tired. His voice was hoarse.

"To my brothers in Tripoli," he said, "we can't do this alone."

...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2011/feb/18/libya-protest-hisham-matar-comment


MAP of Protests across the Middle East



Please rec if you read these so I know if the effort here is worth it.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:21 PM
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1. Gunfire AA fire less. A lot if ambulances. Ppl still guarding infront of homes
Students4Libya Students 4 Libya
by Tripolitanian@
@Tripolitanian 40 unconfirmed deaths from earlier in night. Gunfire AA fire less. A lot if ambulances. Ppl still guarding infront of homes
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:23 PM
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2. They gave us no chance. Heavy fire, like it was a war.
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 11:23 PM by Catherina
AliveIn Stories from MENA
#Libya They gave us no chance. Heavy fire, like it was a war. http://bit.ly/eNwo2s (Feb 20) #feb17
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And after complicit silence, in the morning, the West was planning to be *SHOCKED* I tell ya. Thank you for succeeding in exposing this.

They gave us no chance. Heavy fire, like it was a war.

on FEBRUARY 20, 2011

AUDIO in Arabic

English:

Today, in the beginning of the afternoon, after Dhur prayer, the provocatory clashes the revolutionary committees were causing by circling the streets were still ongoing. We were leaving Dhur prayer and they were saying “The Leader gave us good tidings, break into their homes,” and provoking us. We were calming the youth down, we told them, we said OK, this is not our time yet, don’t clash with them, leave them alone. But after sunset the provocation increased, and the youth were forced to fight. I believe the retreat of Abdelfatah Younis from the ranks of the security, has left a security gap. So suddenly the youth found there were empty police stations, so they went in and burned almost all police stations in the city, all revolutionary committee bases. Forgive me, I am a little out of breath. Anyway, in front of me, what I saw, the revolutionary headquarters of Fashloom was burned, and the headquarters in Ben Ashor and its police station, and Zawyet Adahmani police station. So it spread and we heard news from Soug el Juma the same thing, the security base is burned. So it went from area to area. We don’t know what will happen even in the next five minutes. But every so often we get news that an area has fallen in the hands of the protesters. So there was a suggestion that we go to the Green Square, and the youth started gathering themselves. Those who know people from Soug el Juma called them, those who know people from Fashloom called them. The youth put their trust in God and at about 10:30 they reached the Green Square. They kicked out the pro-Gaddafi people in the Square and burned the internal security center. They entered and burned it all, and I think the general security building overlooking the martyrs square too. After the speech, of course we were listening, after the speech, suddenly cars came, the land cruisers, with people. They were far away so I can’t tell you if they were Africans or Libyans or from Sirte. They gave us no chance. Heavy fire, like it was a war. Until you can’t even hear or even see what’s happening. The demonstrators scattered, and they suddenly brought in their gangs chanting “Fatih, Fatih” and they re-entered the square. We took shelter in the neighboring buildings for a while then retreated. There was also strikes by anti-aircraft missiles, we saw this in front of us. Those that I saw with my own eyes, two wounded, one shot in the head.

Translated by @tasnimq

http://alive.in/libya/2011/02/20/they-gave-us-no-chance-heavy-fire-like-it-was-a-war/?utm_campaign=libyatweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:25 PM
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3. This running log you're doing is EPIC!
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:25 PM
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4. Hundreds of #Libyans are being rushed into Medical Center with gunshot wounds to the head.

SaloumehZ SaloumehZ
RT @AJELive Hundreds of #Libyans are being rushed into #Tripoli Medical Center from Green Square with gunshot wounds to the head. #Libya
3 minutes ago


The hospital is under renovation and has NO equipment or supplies. I hope this is a different medical center. WAR CRIMES. HANG THEM.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:27 PM
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5. Audioboo: ENGLISH LPC:During clashes yesterday in Feshloom, security police said didn't want 2 fight
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 11:27 PM by Catherina
feb17voices Feb 17 voices
Audioboo: ENGLISH LPC: During clashes yesterday in Feshloom, security police said they didn't want 2fight #Libya #Feb17 http://boo.fm/b283803
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ENGLISH LPC: During clashes yesterday in Feshloom, security police said they didn't want 2fight #Libya #Feb17
5 minutes ago
play

AUDIO in clear English


http://audioboo.fm/boos/283803-english-lpc-during-clashes-yesterday-in-feshloom-security-police-said-they-didn-t-want-2fight-libya-feb17


Jail them. Try them for treason.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:35 PM
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8. Audioboo: ENGLISH LPC: Security police don't want to be involved, have left the scene in #Tripoli.
feb17voices Feb 17 voices
Audioboo: ENGLISH LPC: Security police don't want to be involved, have left the scene in #Tripoli. #Libya #Feb17 http://boo.fm/b283804
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ENGLISH LPC: Security police don't want to be involved, have left the scene in #Tripoli. #Libya #Feb17
11 minutes ago

AUDIO in clear English

http://audioboo.fm/boos/283804-english-lpc-security-police-don-t-want-to-be-involved-have-left-the-scene-in-tripoli-libya-feb17
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:31 PM
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6. Confirmed the peoples convention in girgarish is burning, and interior ministry in green square are
ElGeryani Shareef El Geryani
by ArabSolidarity
Confirmed the peoples convention in girgarish is burning, and interior ministry in green square are also on fire! #Libya #Tripoli
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:33 PM
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7. Partial transcript of a call record from Tripoli after Seif Gaddafi's speech. "Non-stop" gunfire.
evanchill Evan Hill
Partial transcript of a call record from Tripoli after Seif Gaddafi's speech. "Non-stop" gunfire. http://ow.ly/407xz
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Seif Gaddafi, the son of Libya's leader, warned of 'civil war' in a speech on Sunday night.

As protests in Libya enter their eighth day, following a "day of rage" on Thursday, we keep you updated on the developing situation from our headquarters in Doha, Qatar.

(All times are local in Libya)


Blog: Feb17 - Feb18 - Feb19 - Feb20

AJE Live Stream - Twitter Audio: Voices from Libya - Benghazi Protest Radio (Arabic) - Benghazi Webcam

February 21

5:59 am Shortly after Seif Gaddafi gave his speech on state television, a caller from Libya had this conversation with a Libyan outside of the country, which was recorded and distributed to journalists. The caller describes ongoing combat in the capital after Seif Gaddafi's speech warned of "civil war" if protests continued. The audio format is problematic to upload, so here's a partial transcript:

Caller: It started in Kalifiya , Bershouz , Fashloum, Bahara , all those areas went out, where to Kalifiya, from there they moved and they could actually - Listen to that.

Interviewer: Yeah I can hear the gunshots.

Caller: Yeah.

Int: Yeah

Caller: Yeah, now this is bullshit. This is heavy weaponry I'm talking about, heavy artillery.

Int: I'm going to be sending this clip to journalists so don't use your name or don't identify anyone.

Caller: i'm not.. Ok, ok, do whatever you want.

Int: Just tell me about the tension.

Caller: What I hear is a lot of people screaming. I hear some... They're all anti-regime supporters, all of them are protesters, and all I hear is gunshots, heavy artillery, sounds like machine guns, and it just escalated right now. It was somewhat peaceful, you can hear like - - you can hear sporadic gunfire.

Caller: You can hear sporadic gunfire here and there, but now it's constant - - and it's not stopping at all.

Int: Yeah what triggered it, was this after the speech?

Caller: This is right after the speech, and then like, also, Libyan TV it says ... breaking news: Tens of thousands of pro-Gaddafi supporters are trickling down into the city, Green Square, after Seif Islam's speech, meaning that they're supporting what he said.

Int: Was that true?

Caller: So like they're waging war against the pro-democracy supporters.

Int: But are those numbers inflated?

Caller: Yeah it's just scare tactics, they're intimidate- did you listen to the speech?

Int: Yes I did.

Caller: Yeah they were just intimidating people.

Int: Can you hear the voices?

Caller: This is non-stop, non-stop. And there's also reports that they're going into hospitals. What they said is that they went to Misrata and they killed four doctors there.



2:00 am Picture from the streets shows Libyans watching Seif Gaddafi address the nation via @ammr



1:50 am Najla Abdurahman, a Libyan dissident, dissected Saif El Islam Gadaffi's address:
    He's threatening Libya and trying to play up on their fears. I don't think anyone in Libya who isn't close to the Gaddafi regime would buy anything he said. And even if there is any truth to what he said, I don't think it's any better than what the people of Libya have already been living with for the past 40 years. He promised that the country would spiral into civil war for the next 30 to 40 years, that the country's infrastructure would be ruined, hospitals and schools would no longer be functioning - but schools are already terrible, hospitals are already in bad condition.




1:00 am: Saif El Islam Gaddafi, the Libyan leader's son, is speaking live on Libyan state television. He says he will address the nation without a written speech, in the Libyan dialect.

He says the media has greatly exaggerated the events in Libya, and says the number of casualties is 14, adding that he regrets the deaths of civilians. He also says unions and Islamic groups are beind the protests - and they are benefiting from the situation.

Translated snippets of his speech as he gives it are below:

    "Citizens tried to attack the army and they were in a situation that was difficult. The army was not used to dealing with riots," he says.

    "Libyan citizens died and this was a tragedy.

    "There is a plot against Libya. People want to create a government in Benghazi and others want to have an Islamic emirate in Bayda. All these have their own plots. Of course Arab media hyped this. The fault of the Libyan media is that it did not cover this.

    Libya is not like Egypt, it is tribes and clans, it is not a society with parties. Everyone knows their duties and this may cause civil wars.

    Libya is not Tunisia and Egypt. Libya has oil - that has united the whole of Libya.

    "I have to be honest with you. We are all armed, even the thugs and the unemployed. At this moment in time, tanks are driven about with civilians. In Bayda you have machine huns right in the middle of the city. Many arms have been stolen.

    "No one will come to Libya or do any business with Libya.

    "We will call for new media laws, civil rights, lift the stupid punishments, we will have a constitution... We will tomorrow create a new Libya. We can agree on a new national anthem, new flag, new Libya. Or be prepared for civil war. Forget about oil.

    "The country will be divided like North and South Korea, we will see each other through a fence. You will wait in line for months for a visa.

    "The Libyans who live in Europe and USA, their children go to school and they want you to fight. They are comfortable. They then want to come and rule us and Libya. They want us to kill each other then come, like in Iraq."


More: http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-east/2011/02/17/live-blog-libya

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:36 PM
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9. Gaddafi paid each family of Lockerebie victims $10,000,000, while he shoots his people so freely.
ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
#Gaddafi paid each family of Lockerebie victims $10,000,000, while he shoots his people so freely. #Libya #Feb17
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:37 PM
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10. Audioboo: ENGLISH LPC: Hard to tell if protesters are being shot by mercenaries or by Gaddafi guards
feb17voices Feb 17 voices
Audioboo: ENGLISH LPC: Hard to tell if protesters are being shot by mercenaries or by #Gaddafi guards. #Libya #Feb17 http://boo.fm/b283810
1 minute ago


ENGLISH LPC: Hard to tell if protesters are being shot by mercenaries or by #Gaddafi guards. #Libya #Feb17
3 minutes ago
play


AUDIO in clear English

http://audioboo.fm/boos/283810-english-lpc-hard-to-tell-if-protesters-are-being-shot-by-mercenaries-or-by-gaddafi-guards-libya-feb17
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:37 PM
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11. We from #Tripoli will never give up or give in to #Gaddafi. Freedom is not a favour,it's our God dam
Thanku4theanger THANKU4THEANGER
by rstripolina
We from #Tripoli will never give up or give in to #Gaddafi. Freedom is not a favour,it's our God damn right! We'll live free or die fighting
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:39 PM
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12. Western governments are considering which side to be on, the barrel of oil or humanity,
Edited on Sun Feb-20-11 11:49 PM by Catherina
bassamj Bassam Jaafar
@
@weddady the western governments are considering which side to be on, the barrel of oil or humanity,... #Libya
8 minutes ago



Too late to go for choice #2 but let the dramatics begin.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:43 PM
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16. k/r --
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:40 PM
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13. URGENT!!! Armed Youths from #Zawya and #Misrata are heading to #Tripoli to help out their brothers.
LibyanThinker The Libyan Thinker
URGENT!!! Armed Youths from #Zawya and #Misrata are heading to #Tripoli to help out their brothers. #Libya
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:41 PM
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14. via @AJArabic doctors in #libya report 90% of gunshot wounds are located in the the chest and head
sumyasalem sumya
by rstripolina
via @AJArabic doctors in #libya report 90% of gunshot wounds are located in the the chest and head #gadafficrimes
35 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:42 PM
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15. Algerian secret service urge reform to contain anger fearing the Libyan route
themoornextdoor Kal
by acarvin
Important: Algerian secret service urge reform to contain anger http://is.gd/urEAsc fearing the Libyan route
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Les services secrets conseillent à Bouteflika d’engager en urgence des réformes
Merouane Mokdad et Ali Idir

Les services secrets algériens ont conseillé au président Bouteflika d’engager en urgence des réformes pour contenir la colère sociale, selon le contenu d’un rapport remis récemment au chef de l’État et révélé ce dimanche 20 février par le site web de la chaîne qatarie Al Jazeera. Ce rapport a été élaboré à la demande de Bouteflika lui‑même pour comprendre les raisons des émeutes qui ont marqué le pays début janvier 2011 et les contestations qui secouent plusieurs secteurs (santé, justice, collectivités locales, etc.).


Il a été constaté que la colère populaire est liée à la hausse généralisée des prix des produits alimentaires et aux politiques poursuivies par le Premier ministre Ahmed Ouyahia. Reprenant des conseillers du président, le site d’Al Jazeera a annoncé que Bouteflika sera amené à se séparer de son Premier ministre. « Il doit nommer une autre personnalité qui sera mieux acceptée par la population. Des discussions sont toujours au niveau de la Présidence pour choisir cette personnalité », est‑il précisé.

Il est également indiqué que le chef de l’État changera les ministres qui sont restés longtemps au sein du gouvernement. Comme il est annoncé que Bouteflika prononcera un discours, probablement le 24 février courant, à l’occasion de l’anniversaire de la nationalisation des hydrocarbures. « Il y annoncera des décisions historiques en réponse aux exigences populaires. Il est attendu que le président confirme la levée définitive de l’état d’urgence », est‑il souligné. Par ailleurs, et selon la même source, le président Bouteflika a demandé à ce que l’on réponde clairement à la question relative à sa popularité, plus d’une année après le début de son troisième mandat.

En fait, selon nos informations le gouvernement était au courant dès la fin 2010 d’une subite dégradation de la situation au plan social en Algérie. Les services de renseignements (DRS) ont alerté les responsables politiques sur l’étendue du mécontentement populaire et l’imminence d’une explosion sociale, sur la base d’enquêtes réalisées sur le terrain et de conclusions d’experts. Les rapports ont été remis aux autorités bien avant les émeutes meurtrières contre la cherté de la vie début janvier et même avant l’éclatement de la révolte en Tunisie. Ces rapports concernent tous les aspects, y compris la gestion de l’information et de la télévision.

...
http://www.tsa-algerie.com/politique/les-services-secrets-conseillent-a-bouteflika-d-engager-en-urgence-des-reformes_14392.html
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:46 PM
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20. IMHO...Algeria is next.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:05 AM
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36. We went from meek departure in Tunisia, to camels and state thugs in Egypt
Edited on Mon Feb-21-11 12:06 AM by Catherina
to hired mercenaries in Libya.

I almost fear what the Algerian govt could do. Gas its people?

These leaders are psychopaths.


I think Algeria too. though Yemen and Jordan are really heating up.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:18 AM
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46. This road eventually leads to Riyadh, Catherina...don't you think?
Edited on Mon Feb-21-11 12:21 AM by roamer65
I really hate to think it, but it think the long feared will happen.

If the region ends up in democracy, I would be extremely happy. But there is just too many foreign oil interests involved...
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:32 AM
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56. To Jerusalem by way of Riyadh I think
Angry Arab posted this a few days ago but I don't have the link handy


For those who say that there are no foreign policy goals for Egyptian protesters, you need to watch this. In it, Egyptians (more than 2 million today) in Tahrir Square chant: "To Jerusalem we are heading, Martyrs in the millions." (Yes, it rhymes in Arabic)
عالقدس رايحين, شهداء بالملايين (thanks Farah)


Variations of that chant have been repeated in Tunisia and Libya. If Israel is smart, it will free Gaza NOW. Nothing good will come of anything but that. It's been severely underplayed in our media how angry Arabs are over the suffering of Gazans.

We need an honest peace settlement NOW!
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:44 PM
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17. Petro Canada has been a major funder of the tyrant SOBs in #Libya over the past years, here's one ex
dawn_ dawn
by ThePinebox
Petro Canada has been a major funder of the tyrant SOBs in #Libya over the past years, here's one example: http://bloom.bg/gpzwYL
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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aWFmwjnAKkGk&refer=canada

Petro-Canada, Libya Agree on $7 Billion Spending Plan (Update2)
By Eduard Gismatullin and Maher Chmaytelli - December 10, 2007 10:44 EST

Dec. 10 (Bloomberg) -- Petro-Canada, the country's third- largest oil company, and Libya's state-run National Oil Corp. agreed to invest about $7 billion in exploration projects in the North African nation.

``Petro-Canada will pay 50 percent of all development capital and will receive a 12 percent entitlement share of production,'' the Canadian company said today in statement. That's a reduction of its share of output from existing oil ventures in Libya, National Oil said yesterday.

The Calgary-based company signed today an agreement with National Oil on the development of the fields in Libya's Sirte Basin. Its existing participation agreements and old exploration production-sharing accords were converted into six new pacts.

Petro-Canada was the fourth company to revise its contract with Libya in about a month, following Italy's Eni SpA, Occidental Petroleum Corp. of the U.S., and Austria's OMV AG. Libya is negotiating contract renewals to secure better terms as oil prices soar, National Oil Chairman Shokri Ghanem said last month.

-snip-
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:45 PM
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18. Audioboo: LPC #Tripoli man reaction to Saif #Gaddafi speech: "he is just another liar."
feb17voices Feb 17 voices
Audioboo: LPC #Tripoli man reaction to Saif #Gaddafi speech: "he is just another liar." #Libya #Feb17 http://boo.fm/b283818
1 minute ago


LPC #Tripoli man reaction to Saif #Gaddafi speech: "he is just another liar." #Libya #Feb17
2 minutes ago
play

AUDIO in clear English


http://audioboo.fm/boos/283818-lpc-tripoli-man-reaction-to-saif-gaddafi-speech-he-is-just-another-liar-libya-feb17
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:46 PM
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19. hope this has put to rest the stupid idea that using force against state violence is somehow immoral
hocinedim Ali Hocine Dimerdji
by SaloumehZ
I hope that the events of #Libya have put to rest the stupid idea that using force against state violence is somehow immoral #Libya #Feb17
37 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:47 PM
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21. BREAKING:Video Tripoli Sooq Al Jum3a
ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
BREAKING:Video Tripoli Sooq Al Jum3a Feb20/11 "ياقذافي يا طاغوت، سوق الجمعة حتى الموت http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYwFJlJgTZc #feb17#libya
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Tripoli, Sooq Al Jum3a Libya February 20, 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYwFJlJgTZc
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:48 PM
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22. Gaddafi openly asked his supporters to "kill enemies" and anyone who asks for political change
ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
#Gaddafi openly called upon his supporters to "kill enemies" of his revolution and anyone who asks for political change within #Libya #Feb17
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:50 PM
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23. Flashback: 2008 Gaddafi announced his intention 2 dissolve the country's existing admin structure ++
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In 2008 #Gaddafi announced his intention to dissolve the country's existing admin structure and disburse oil revenue directly to the people
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:51 PM
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24. Saif al-Islam al-Gaddafi on Facebook #masochismlovers

mand0z Mohannad
Saif al-Islam al-Gaddafi on Facebook: http://on.fb.me/e4H1nK #masochismlovers
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https://www.facebook.com/pages/Saif-al-Islam-al-Gaddafi/10917256698?sk=wall




I went. Lol. He has 9,721 *friends*
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:52 PM
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25. Can anyone recall any other time a gov't used foreign mercenaries against their own people?
rstripolina rstripolina
Can anyone recall any other time a gov't used foreign mercenaries against their own people? #Libya #Feb17
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:11 AM
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41. Weren't their mercs in NOLA? Hurricane Katrina, don't know if
they were foreign though.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:15 AM
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43. Didn't the Brits use them against us in the American Revolution?
Hessians, I believe.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:28 AM
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53. Yes, they did.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:26 AM
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52. US Labor movement a century+ ago
The Pinkertons and others.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:54 PM
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26. HEROIC WORK, Catherina. K&R.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:57 PM
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28. Cliffffffffford!
Hi buddy! Thank you. Horrific stuff isn't it?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:01 AM
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32. Yes. Horrific. I get the feeling this is the start of something
really big in the course of human events.

HUGE.

It will be by turn horrific, and, maybe, beautiful. We can all hope for the beautiful.

:hi:

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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:04 AM
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35. If it goes to Riyadh, it will be horrific.
Edited on Mon Feb-21-11 12:06 AM by roamer65
It will be World War III as larger world powers get involved to maintain control of the Ghawar oil fields.

I hate to say it, but I think it is heading that way.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:07 AM
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39. Yep. Shit, meet fan.
If this really goes south, we might ALL get to understand how dependent on oil we really are......
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 01:10 AM
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68. I too have mixed feelings -- apprehension but also hope.
You never know what will happen after a revolution. I remember very well the day that Castro took over in Cuba. Everyone was happy.

Things did not entirely turned out as some people expected.

Revolutions do not always lead to positive results. In fact, they often do not.

Very often there is an initial revolution followed by successive regimes not all of which are beneficial for the people of the nation.

That there is a popular uprising does not guarantee democracy.

And democracy does not guarantee that a country will have wise policies.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:22 AM
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48. I pray for beautiful but agree with you. Here is how I feel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVR6xL7fkaY


Lyrics are somewhere in my DU journal but the video is subtitled in English.

We're the last generation with a chance to get this right.
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:24 AM
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49. I hope I am wrong.
But I really have a feeling much like a relative described of 1938. He said you knew something was coming, only just a matter of time.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:36 AM
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58. Heh. I've been anticipating this for 10 years. Kind of scary to see it unfolding n/t
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:58 PM
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29. Word.
...Dude...

:hi:
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:01 AM
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33. Yo!!
The dude abides......

:hi:

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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:26 AM
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51. Thank you! All of you here. It means a lot 2 me n/t
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:56 PM
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27. Al Arabiya just said Gaddafi is on his way to Venezuela. i don't buy Al Arabiya crap

3Beee Farah
Al Arabiya just said Gaddafi is on his way to Venezuela. Sadly, i don't buy Al Arabiya crap #libya
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I wouldn't either. Complicit traitors
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:06 AM
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38. In 1995, Gaddafi expelled some 30,000 Palestinians living in Libya, in response to the peace negotia
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In 1995, Gaddafi expelled some 30,000 Palestinians living in Libya, in response to the peace negotiations between Israel and the PLO #Libya
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:12 AM
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42. Venezuela already denied that rumor ~
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-11 11:59 PM
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30. Gaddafi self-handed the title "King of Kings of Africa". 200+ African rulers took part
ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
On 29 August 2008, Gaddafi held a public ceremony in Benghazi in which he was self-handed the title "King of Kings of Africa" #Libya #Feb17
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Over 200 African traditional rulers and kings took part in the ceremony. #Libya #Gaddafi #Feb17
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Sad. SAD!
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:01 AM
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31. ceremony was 2 encourage African heads of state & govts to join with Gaddafi toward a "US of Africa"
Edited on Mon Feb-21-11 12:01 AM by Catherina
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The ceremony was to encourage African heads of state and government to join with #Gaddafi toward a "United States of Africa" #Libya #Feb17
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What is he? North Africa's version of Moon? This stuff is surreal.




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Gaddafi at the 2009 Arab League Summit, at which he claimed to be the King of Kings, "leader of the Arab leaders" and "imam of the Muslims"
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:02 AM
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34. "I am livetweeting a wikipedia article."
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@
@blogdiva I have no idea. I am livetweeting a wikipedia article. Guess its just his eccentricity
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:09 AM
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40. Gaddafi’s speech to the United Nations General Assembly 23/9/2009
ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
Gaddafi’s speech to the United Nations General Assembly 23/9/2009 http://www.btinternet.com/~davidbeaumont/msf/gadafi.htm #Libya #Feb17
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Gadafi’s speech to the United Nations General Assembly 23/9/2009

Provided and translated courtesy of The Jamahiriya News Agency "Jana"
http://www.jananews.ly/Index.aspx?Language=3


In the name of God.
Ladies and gentlemen, members of the General Assembly of the United Nations:
I greet you on behalf of the African Union, and I pray that this will be a historic convention in the life of the world.
On behalf of the General Assembly of the United Nations, chaired by Libya, on behalf of the African Union, and for you all .. I congratulate your son the president, "Obama," because for the first time to attend our General Meeting as President of the United States, and commend him because he represents the host country.



We do not flatter nor make diplomatic statements ..we are not scared nor can we compromise when it comes to the destiny of the world.
We now talk about the destiny of the world ..the destiny of the planet and the human race ..when it comes to these crucial issues there can be no flattering, procrastination or hypocrisy because that led to 65 wars after establishment of the United Nations.
The preamble says if force is used there should be a United Nation force.. a common force ..a UN war staff not just one country or two or three..the United Nations together should decide whether to use force to keep world peace.
If aggression occurred against one country after 1945 when the organisation was set up, the UN will come to its defence and repel the aggression.
If Libya aggressed on France for example, the UN will repel the aggression because France is a sovereign country.
We are committed to defend the sovereignty of nations in a collective fashion, but that did not prevent the outbreak of 65 wars of aggression with the UN doing nothing to curb them, including eight major wars that claimed the lives of millions of people, perpetrated by a veto holding member of the Security Council.
The states that we thought would repel aggression protect peoples turned out to the ones that used aggressive force while enjoying the veto.

<5th Paragraph:>

There is nothing in this Charter that allow the United Nations to interfere in internal sovereignty of another country .
In other words , ruling system is internal affair , no one else has the right to interfere in it and it is the responsibility of the concerned society to have dictatorial, democratic, socialist , capitalist , reactionary or progressive system . It is an internal affair .
Once Rome has voted for Julius Caesar to be a dictator and the Senate gave him the authority to be dictator because they thought that dictatorship was useful to Rome then . This is an internal affair . Who can say to Rome , why did you that ?That is making of Caesar a dictator ruler




The Security Council is merely an executive body of the resolutions of the UN General Assembly, and when the Security Council becomes a mere executive body, there would be no competition for the Council seats.
The Security Council should be represent all nations, and not by a nation, what is presented now to the General Assembly is a permanent for every space...every union:
- A permanent seat in the Security Council for the 27 EU countries.
- A permanent seat for the 53 AU countries.
- A permanent seat for Latin America Union.
- A permanent seat for ASEAN 10+2+3+4.
- The Russian federation already has a seat in the Security Council.
- The American Union, which is 50 states "United States of America" already has a permanent seat.
- A permanent seat for SARC, if established.
- We have the G.100, we're thinking about it, perhaps the small nations "Forum for Small States" "FSS" could also have a permanent seat.
And there are other nations out of the unions I have mentioned, a permanent seat could be given alternatively every six month or every year.
Perhaps Japan, Australia or New Zealand are not in a union, none of these countries has joined ASEAN, there are not in the Russian Federation, nor the African Union, not the European Union, nor the Latin American, nor the United States, a seat could be allocated.

This is what's presented to you...to the General Assembly for voting.
This is the decisive essential issue, presented to the General Assembly the master of the world...the world's parliament...it is the world's congress, no one opposes it and we will not recognize anyone outside the hall, we're the United Nations.
Ali Traiki and Ban Ki-moon will make the administrative and legal drafts, form committees that will vote on this issue, the Security Council, from now on, will formed of unions.
This is justice and democracy and we're finished with the Security Council which is occupied by certain nations...one possess atomic bomb, another possess economic power, other possess technology, and another possess technique...this is terrorism.
We cannot live in a Security Council dominated by those with overwhelming powers...this is terrorism.
This is if you want a world that lives in united and secure and peaceful, and if you want to us to live in terrorism, live in conflict...let us continue conflict until judgment day.
All of these seats should have veto, or there should be no veto.
The Security Council in form should either all the union seats have a veto or annul veto from the Security Council with its new form.
This is the genuine Security Council.
In any case, the Security Council with its new form is presented for vote, it is an executive instrument for the General Assembly.

Sovereignty is for nations...for 190 nation that are present...this is how all nations should be equal in the Security Council, just as in the General Assembly.
We in the General Assembly have equal votes, we should also be equal in the adjacent room, the Security Council.
But for a nation to have veto power...and another does not, a nation to have a permanent seat and another that does not, this is annulled as of now, we absolutely do not recognize this and we will not be subject to any resolution passed by the Security Council with its current form.
Now, we've come...we're colonized...we're under trusteeship, now we have gained independence and united, we want to determine the world's destiny in a democratic way that preserves peace and security for all peoples equally, small and powerful.
Terrorism is not only the terrorism of Al-Qaeda, the status quo is terrorism.
Recourse is only to the majority of votes in the General Assembly and not to any other side, and if the General Assembly votes this, it becomes in force, no one can oppose this or say he is above the General Assembly, and any who says he is above it can leave the United Nations.
Democracy is neither for the powerful, nor the rich nor those who terrorize us.
The last word is for all nations equally.
As for now, the Security Council is a feudal security...a feudal policy for permanent members, it protects them and they use it against us, hence, it should not be called the Security Council rather the Terror Council.

Brothers, you can in our political life when they want to use the Security Council against us they resort to it, and if they do not need to use it against us, they ignore it, and if they have interest in the charter to use it against us, they respect and sanctify it, they search for the 7th chapter to apply it against these nations, and if they want to carry out an act in violation of the charter they would ignore it as if it did not exist.
It is unjust and terrorism that veto and permanent seat are for the powerful, we can neither take this nor can we live under it.
Powerful nations have saturated interests in the world, and they use veto, they use the force of the UN to protect their interests...this is terrorizing the third world, the third world is now terrorized, they are living under terrorism.
Since the Security Council was established in 1945 and until now it didn't provide security for us, rather provided punishments and terror...it is only used against us, therefore, we are not obliged to obey Security Council resolutions as from the fortieth speech.
65 wars were waged since the establishment of the Security Council...against small nations, or fighting against each other, or an aggression by superpower against a small nation, the Security Council did not deter a violation of the charter.

The General Assembly will vote on these historic solutions and afterwards we could either continue together or be divided in two: equal nations that have their own assembly and Security Council, and veto-wielding powers remain in their council of four, five or three, as they want, we're not with them, they should apply veto against each other...this does not concern us, and remain permanently in these seats, this does not concern us, God is permanent.
As of now, we cannot remain under the dominance of the veto-wielding powers, which they gave themselves.
We did not give them this, we would be fools to give veto and permanent seats to a group of nations, and discredit other nations and consider them inferior and despicable, and say they do neither deserve permanent seats nor veto power.
Why do we degrade nations?!
We did not decide this, certain nations are sanctified and respected...these are the nations of the world...they are 190 nations.
You realize that now there is disregard to Security Council resolutions after we were assured that it is only used against us and never used against superpowers.
The Security Council could never be use against veto-wielding powers...there could never be a resolution against the superpowers.
Hence, it's created against us, and consequently, resolutions it passes are being laughed at and ignored, this has become a farce for the United Nations, now actions are being taken outside the UN: aggression, wars, invasion of sovereign nations, destroying their sovereignty and independence, committing war crimes, collective extermination and violation of the charter, and the Security Council is there...not interested in the Security Council.


The important thing is that every international group started to form a security council of its own to tackle its problems and issues , . Henceforth, the Security Council in its present form , attending this session gradually becomes isolated .
- African Union formed '' MAS '' which is African Peace and Security Council .
-European Union will form a security Council .
- ASEAN will do so to and so is Latin America .
Non-Alignment Movement ( 120 ) countries is considering this option .
This indicates that we have lost confidence in the current Security Council since it did not provide us with security and , in turn , we resorted to regional councils .There is no o0bligation on our part to obey the SC in its current form in which we are not partners in it . It is undemocratic construction . and oppressive dictatorship and no one can force us to stay in this council or obey its orders .

The United Nations has no standing or any value ..nor any affect in the life and the peace of the world .
The International Court of Justice has its decisions implemented on small countries and on third world countries but not on the powerful. In front of me are the decisions of the court which other countries refused to implement.
The International Atomic Energy Agency is an important UN body but the major powers are not answerable to it.. it is merely made for us ..if it is international as you say it should inspect the atomic stock of the nuclear countries ..as of this speech.
Ali al Treiki in the General Assembly will question the Director of the agency and question al Braedei to see if they looking into the stockpiles of these countries.
If they say yes these countries are subject to inspection ..so we will be subject to inspection ..but if not we will slab the door shut in it s face.

For your information , gentlemen, I called '' al-Baradie'' during the Libyan nuclear bomb crisis - the ex- director before the current one , and I said to him Mr. '' al-Baradie '' Are the agreements on reducing weapons of mass destruction agreed upon by the nuclear powers , are under your supervision ? and did they really reduced abide by the reduction and are you aware of any violations regarding this matter ? His answer was '' Not at all '' . He told me that he cannot ask the big powers on this subject .
Therefore, you only came to us, get out .
This is not an international agency .. It is imposed only on us .
The Security Council is imposed on us , So is the international Court of Justice. This is not United Nations .
This is not fair .. this is not a security . this is unacceptable .

Regarding Africa, '' Dr. Ali Triki '' whether they reformed the United Nations or not and even before voting on the historic proposals that I presented now before the General Assembly and it will be subjected to voting and Africa as of now needs a permanent seat in the SC with full authorities as a compensation for the past , even if the UN reform is not under consideration .
Africa is an isolated colonized and wronged , they regard it like animals , then after that they used for slavery trade , then it is considered like colonies under mandate.
This continent .. the African Union , deserves a permanent seat as compensation for the past exactly like China and this right is not related to UN reform .
This is on the table and has the priority, it is immediately referred to the GA and no one can sway that Africa .. The African Union does not deserve a permanent seat .
Any one has an argument let him give me an answer and discuss that with me . Who has an evidence to prove that the African continent does not deserve a permanent seat ?!.
No one can give an answer .

It is proposed to the general assembly to vote for the compensation of the countries that were colonised in order that colonisation is not repeated and in order not to repeat the robbery of the wealth of nations and not to repeat the immigration of these countries to the nations that robbed their wealth.
Why do Africans to to Europe and why do Asians and Latin Americans go to Europe? It is because Europe colonised Africa, Asia and Latin America. It took the gold, silver, copper, diamonds, iron, uranium and all other valuable minerals as well as oil, vegetables, foods, livestock and human beings.
We have a new African generation and a new Asian and Latin American generation. They are after this stolen wealth and they have the right and we are incapable of stopping them.
When I stop a thousand Africans going to Europe on the Libyan borders they say I am going after the stolen wealth. If you return it I will remain. Who will return it to them. There has to be a resolution to return this wealth to stop immigration. You have to return the stolen wealth.

Africa deserves compensation to the tune of 777 trillion that is seven hundred and seventy seven trillion as compensation for Africa from the coloniser countries and Africa will demand that. And if these trillions are not returned the Africans will keep going to where you have invested these trillions and they have the right to go after it. You return it to them and they will stop. There is no Libyan immigration to Italy which is the closest country to Libya. That is because Italy decided to compensate the Libyan people for colonisation and apologised and signed a treaty with Libya ratified by the Libyan and Italian people to turn the page of the past.
Italy acknowledged that colonisation is wrong, a failed programme and it will not return and Italy will not allow any aggression against Libya but sea, air or land from Italy or from any other place. Italy is compensating Libya for twenty years of colonisation. It is paying a quarter of a billion annually. It is building hospitals for those children whose limbs were dismembered through the mines planted by the Italians during the two world wars. Italy apologised and expressed regret for the colonisation. Italy has done the glorious thing. This is a historic action. It is a civilised action by Berluconi and has to be an example.
The third world is claiming its right in compensation in order that the colonisation is never repeated and in order that any country in the third world contemplating colonising other countries that it will be asked to compensate. Then this state will say I will not colonise any state.
In order that colonisation is not repeated it has to be held accountable, penalised and compensation must be paid.

The second point which I hope to face patiently is rather sensitive. There will be some sentences which I mentioned in brackets. Undoubtedly we the real Africans are happy and proud that one of Africa's sons has become president of the USA. This is a historic event at the time when the black was not admitted to the cafe of the white, nor the restaurant of the white and was not allowed in the bus of the white. Now the American people have voted enthusiastically for Obama, the African-Kenyan black youth to become the US president. This is something great which we are proud of. We consider it the beginning of the change and he has raised the slogan for change.
However I consider Obama as a beacon in the darkness for about four or eight years but I am afraid things will come to the old habit because nobody guarantees anything after Obama. Nobody guarantees it, not the chairman nor Ban ki-Moon. We are satisfied at present and wish Obama to be permanently President of the USA.

We are not disputing the speech delivered by our son Obama before me. He is totally different from any American president. Americans in the past used to say we will send you cast bullets and the mother of all bombs. This seems to be the grandmother of all bombs. We will send you clusters of grapes, our summer rainfall, the desert storm, rolling thunder and we will send you the poisonous rose for Libya's children in 1986. That was the logic when an American president spoke from this forum. That was the way they spoke and terrorised the world. They said we will send you all these things as was sent to Vietnam and as was sent to Iraq and as was sent to Egypt in 1956 and we will send you the poisonous rose 'El Dorado' which was sent by Reagan to the children of Libya in 1986.
Imagine the president of the largest country which we are assured of and has a permanent seat in the Security Council and we expect it to protect our independence and defend us from aggression saying I decided to send the poisonous rose to the Libyan children and anyone who smells it dies.
What is the poisonous rose? It is the lazer bomb, airbourne by F111. That was the logic at the time. They used to say we will lead the world and we will take on anyone who differs with us, whether you like it or not.

The speech which was thankfully made by our son Obama is totally different from the past. He calls for abandoning nuclear weapons and this is something we applaud. He says America could not solve the problems of the world unilaterally and the world has to solve its problems. He said the present situation should not go on. We should not come to meet, speak and then go away and we agreed to that. He said that the United Nations was always a forum for disputes. We used to meet to attack each other. This is right and it has to end. We have to unite and agree on international institutions where we are all equal and happy.
He says democracy could not be imposed from abroad, whereas the former American President used to say we have to impose democracy on Iraq and on others.
This is an internal affair. It is for the state to be democratic or not. Each state has its own culture and heritage. This is correct but this language was not there. Accordingly we have to be quite alert to this sensitive point. The world has to consider phrase 'multi polar world'.
There shouldn't be a multi polar world. There should be equal nations. No one agrees to a world of multi poles. Why shouldn't we become equal nations without any poles? Are we required to have a patriach? Do we need idols? We don't need a multi polar world. This means the poles will clash and we reject it. We want a world where all nations, large and small are equal without any pole.

The sensitive point is the seat of the UN. This headquarters. You have all come from overseas and beyond the oceans and from beyond the continents in order to get to this place. Why? Is this Al Quds? Is it the Vatican? Is it Mecca. You are all tired and sleepy and your timing has changed and you are physically exhausted. Some of you travelled for 20 hours. How can you deliver speeches and tackle the future of the world? You are all sleepy and it is clear you are all tired. Your countries are now asleep because it is midnight but you awake and you should have been in bed because this is your timing. Today I woke up at 4 New York time because in Libya this is 11am. And this very late in Libya. But I am awake from 4am. Why should we have such trouble? If this is the situation in 1945 then it shouldn't go on at present. You have to think in a middle place that is more comfortable. This is the first point.

The other good point is that the host country shoulders the cost of securing the United Nations headquarters and securing the permanent missions and securing scores of presidents who come to this place every year. This requires strict security and high costs and New York and America live in tension.
I want to alleviate this burden. You have to alleviate the burden from America and you thank America and you can say you want to help it and we want New York to be quiet and America to be quiet and not to shoulder any more responsibility for scores of presidents coming to this place.
Suppose a presidential plane is bombed or a presidential car is bombed. Terrorists could do it.
For your information this headquarters is targeted by Al Qaeda. Yes this headquarters is targeted and we wonder why it was not struck in 9/11. It could be involuntary. Probably the flights were aborted but the next target is this place and I don't speak in a vacuum. We have scores of Al Qaeda members detained in our prisons and their confessions are highly worrying.
This makes America live nervously because this building may be attacked one day by a hijacked plane or a rocket and scores of presidents may die. We want to rid America of this worry. We could thank America and say we want to help you and confer the headquarters to another place that is not targted.

This headquarters is supposed to be transferred after 50 years to the other part of the globe. Fifty years in the western hemisphere is enough. The next 50 years should be in the other hemisphere and this could rotate every 50 years to the east, to the west and to the centre.
The headquarters has been here for 64 years. That is 14 years more than the presumed term for the transfer of the seat.
Of course this not undermine America. In fact this is a service to America. It is a help for America and we thank America but the situation of 1945 should not be maintained. We do not accept that.
This is proposed for a vote in the general assembly. Only in the general assembly because article 23 of the agreement of 1947 says 'the UN seat is to be transferred only by a resolution from the general assembly by a simple majority. This means if 51 percent agree then the seat is to be transferred.
We are not obliged to tolerate all this trouble, to come from India, the Philippines or Australia to here.
I am surprised that my brother President Ahmed took 14 hours to come by air from the Comoros. They told him you come and deliver a speech. How can he deliver a speech with such trouble.

There are some restrictions which annoy some people arriving from abroad. America has the right to impose tough restrictions because it is targeted by Al Qaeda and the terrorists. It has the right and we do not dispute that. But we are not to shoulder these unnecessary formalities. It is not necessary to come to New York and these formalities are not necessary.
One president has complained to me. They told him that the assistant pilot of your plane could not come to America because there are some restrictions on him. He said how can we cross the ocean without an assistant pilot. The reply was you can cross the ocean without an assistant pilot. In the end his is not obliged to come.
Another pilot complained to me as he was told his military body guard is not allowed in America because his name is confused and there are objections and you can't bring him here.
Another president also complained that his special doctor was not given a visa because there was some problem and he is banned from America.

You see there are very tough measures here. And if there is a state with a problem with America then they will restrict its delegate and its delegation. Those delegates are told to limit their movements 50 steps in that direction or 500 meters in this direction. It is as if we are in Guantanamo. Is this a United Nations delegate or is he a prisoner in Guantanamo. All this is proposed for voting in the general assembly. Mr Al Treikik, the chairman, you have to conduct a vote on the transfer of the seat. If 51 percent say 'yes' then we will come the next day to vote on where to transfer the seat. This could be somewhere in the middle. We nominate Sirte or Vienna and the ballot will be held if the seat is to be in Sirte or Vienna. If you go to Sirte you can go 1,000kms in any direction and nobody stops you. You come with a plane full of passengers and you may even come without a visa as long as you are with the president you are allowed. The country is
safe and you can go in every direction. Libya has no animosity with anyone and it is not targeted. It is the same in Vienna. I don't think there are restrictions like this.


If voting results in transferring the seat to the eastern hemisphere the next vote be on whether it goes to New Delhi or to Beijing.
This is the logical thing and no one can object to it.
Then we say God bless him, he who brought this proposal and God bless those who voted for it. Now we have got rid of the burden of 14 hours 20 minutes in the air in order to come to this place. No one could say that America would reduce its contribution. Why do we think badly of America. We shouldn't. America is committed to its obligations towards this international organisation. It will not be cross and it will not be angry. On the contrary it will thank you for alleviating the burden.
This is fine because it found someone to reduce the burden. It will be happy and will get rid of the restrictions on delegations and the restrictions on the seat. Further more the seat is targeted.

Then we will come to the issues to be investigated by the General Assembly under the chairman ship of Ali Al Treki. We hold ourselves accountable. We will hold the United Nations accountable. Either it is over and we begin a new United Nations from the security council to the general assembly. This meeting is extraordinary. Even 'my son' Obama said this before me. He said this meeting is extraordinary. It is historic.
Firstly the wars that occurred after the establishment of the United Nations. Why was that? Where was the security council? Where was the general assembly. Where was the charter and why did it take place. These should be investigated and rulings have to be issued with all the cleansing that took place. We will begin with the Korean war. Why did it happen? It claimed millions of victims. It was close of using an atomic bomb. The Korean War is still there. It is like a time bomb and a new Korean war could take place and nuclear weapons could be used. This is a serious issue. We have to try those who caused the war with all its losses and who is to pay the cost?Who is to be prosecuted. Then we come to the Suez canal war in 1956. It has to be investigated. The file has to opened and shut.
Why do we have states with a permanent seat in the Security Council with a veto and these states attack other states that are member states in the United Nations. Egypt is a sovereign country, its city, its army and its canal were destroyed. Thousands of Egyptians were killed just because it exercised its right to nationalise the Egyptian-Suez canal. Why did this take place when the United Nations was there and the charter was there. How can we be sure this will not be repeated again. The only way is to hold accountable those who caused these past wars.
This is a serious issue. We have to re-open the files of the Korean war and the Suez war in order to close these files.

We then come to the Vietnam war. It claimed three million victims. The bombs dropped in 12 days in the Vietnam war were more than those used in four years during WW2. How can we keep silent about this? This was was a lot more catastrophic than WW2 and why did it take place even after we established the United Nations and said no more wars. The wars took place but we can't keep silent. We are worried about the future of humanity. We want to end this worry. We have our sons and grandsons. We are discussing here in this world parliament. This is the destiny of the world.

Then we come to the issue of Panama which his an independent state and a member in the United Nations. This country has been invaded and 4,000 people from Panama were killed. Its president was arrested and transported as a prisoner of war. He was prosecuted as a criminal and placed in prison in another country.
This case has to be submitted to the general assembly. Noriega has to be released. This file has to be opened. How could a senior member in the United Nations attack another smaller country in the United Nations. How could it arrest its president, kill 4,000 citizens and take the president as a criminal and jail him. No one accepts this. This might happen again. We should not keep silent. We have to investigate it as this could happen to anyone. Anyone might be liable to his. Any country could be liable to this, particularly when the aggression is made by a state that has a permanent seat in the Security Council and is supposed to guarantee security.

Then we come to the war of Grenada. This island which is a member state of the United Nations was invaded with 7,000 soldiers and by 5,000 war ships and scores of fighter planes even though it is one of the smaller countries.
And this took place also after the establishment of the United Nations and the establishment of the Security Council. This state called Grenada was invaded and its president Morris Bishop was killed. How can we keep silent about this. Why do we ignore this tragedy. To issue a verdict on the United Nations whether it exists or not and whether the Security Council is useful or not and whether we are going the right way or the wrong way. Are we assured or not about our future? There have to be investigations. Then we will have investigations about the bombing of Somalia. Somalia is a member state of this assembly and of the United Nations and it was independent but it was bombed at the time of Farah Idid. Finally we have to investigate the results of the bombing. Why did it take place and why was it allowed?

The Yugoslavia war is known. A peaceful country like Yugoslavia which built itself brick by brick after it had been destroyed by Hitler has been destroyed once again by the second Hitler. This is illegal. Federal Yugoslavia was a peaceful country. It was built by Tito the champion of peace brick after brick and then after the death of Tito it was fragmented into pieces for personal, imperialist interests. We others how can we feel peaceful if the peaceful country of Yugoslavia which did not pose any threat to anyone was invaded. The general assembly has to investigate this. It has to see who to prosecute in the ICJ.

Then the Iraqi war, the mother of all evils. This has to be investigated by the United Nations. The General Assembly chaired by Ali Al Treiki has to investigate the Iraq war.
The Iraq war has four highly serious issues.
Firstly the invasion of Iraq itself is a violation of the charter. It is unjustified. Iraq is an independent state and member of the general assembly. Why should it be invaded? Where was the charter?
From the beginning I told you the United Nations has to deter any aggression. When Iraq invaded Kuwait they immediately came to the charter and said the United Nations has to deter aggression and we all agreed. Iraq's Arab sisterly states took part in the war beside foreign countries to deter Iraq's aggression on Kuwait. We were all against this invasion. But the Arab countries fought Iraq with foreign countries under the charter.
But when aggression took place against Iraq where was the charter? Why didn't we use it.
In the beginning the charter was sacred but then the charter was put into the dust bin and was ignored because they wanted to attack Iraq. Why didn't the United Nations deter the aggression against Iraq?
Ali Al Treiki has to launch the investigations by the general assembly. You have to reveal to the world why Iraq was invaded.
Everything is obscure and we might face such a fate. We have to investigate why Iraq was invaded.

Secondly after the invasion of Iraq there is mass cleansing. We have to investigate mass cleansing in Iraq. More than a million and a half Iraqis were killed. You have to show us the International Criminal Court where we are to prosecute those who committed mass cleansing against the Iraqi people.
It is easy to say Omar Al Bashir has to go to the court. It was easy for Slobodan to go to the court. It was easy for Charles Taylor to go to the court and it was easy for Hussein Habri and Noreiga. But those who committed mass cleansing in Iraq. Shouldn't they to to the International Court of Justice.
If this court was only to target us then we reject it and we don't acknowledge it. Either it treats everybody equally or otherwise we don't acknowledge it. Everyone large or small, has to be prosecuted in the International Court of Justice if he committed a crime.
We are not animals on a farm or on a ranch to be slaughtered when they like. We are nations that have the right to live in dignity to live freely and we are ready to fight and face death but we could not accept this situation and you may try us/

The third issue is the death sentence. How prisoners of war are being executed. The Iraqi president and his government, when they were captured, the states occupying Iraq declared they are prisoners of war and they would be prosecuted on such a basis. Then who executed the president? We know those who tried him, the judge in known but who executed him? He was put to death on the day of Eid Al Adha by masked men, Is this right? If this world is civilised and if they are prisoners of war in a civilised state and under international law why were they executed by a gang with masks. Who are those who carried out the death sentence? Do they have a legal authority? Do they have a legal mandate to execute a prisoner of war?

Do you know what the people say? Some people say it is the American president and the British president who were the masked gang which carried out the death sentence on the Iraqi president and his government. This accusation will stay until it is rebuffed. Why did they mask their faces. Why didn't they show their ranks? Why did they conceal their identity? Were they ranking officers, soldiers, a judge or doctor? How can we execute a head of state which is a member state of the United Nations in this ambiguous manner. So far we don't know who carried out the death sentence on the day of Eid. Those countries which occupied Iraq and arrested the Iraqi president and his government and tried them and executed them are those responsible. However the execution remains ambiguous and the United Nations has to answer for it.
Whenever there is a death sentence those who carry out the death sentence have to have a legal entity, legal powers and responsibility. Their ranks must be known and a doctor has to be present. There are a number of conditions, just to execute one ordinary person yet alone the president of a country which is a member state. This is the Iraq war.

The fourth issue in Iraq's war is the prison of Abu Gharib which is quite shameful. I know that America could investigate this scandal. However the United Nations should not abandon this case.
The General Assembly of the United Nations has to investigate the case of Abu Gharib prison where the prisoners of war were very badly treated and they were ripped by dogs and men were raped. This is unprecedented. No one ever did that before – even the devil would not behave like that. Prisoners of war were raped in the prison of Abu Gharib in a country that is a member state of the United Nations. And the instigator is a country with a permanent seat in the Security Council. What is this Security Council? This is a humanitarian issue and no one can keep silent about it. It has to be investigated. There has to be solution and the world has to know.
Up to now my brothers, there are a quarter of a million Iraqi prisoners of war in the prison of Abu Gharib and you have seen how they were treated. We will not forget this and we will not abandon this issue. It has to be investigated.

Then the war in Afghanistan. It has to be investigated. Why are we antagonising the taleban? Why are we antagonising Afghanistan. Who are the taleban? If the taleban want to establish a religious state in Afghanistan let them do so. We have nothing to do with it. It is like the Vatican. Does the Vatican pose any threat to us? No it is a very peaceful, religious state.
If the Afghans want to establish an Islamic emirate let it be like the Vatican. Who said the taleban are the enemy and has to be struck by the armies? Is bin Laden an Afghan. Is he a taleban. Bin Laden is not from the taleban and is not from Afghanistan. The terrorists who struck New York? Are they Afghans? Are they from the taleban? No they are not Afghani and they are not from the taleban. So why was Iraq and Afghanistan targeted?

If I want to deceive my American and English friends I would not tell them this. But I would encourage them and tell them go on, send more troops to Afghanistan and send further troops until they drown in a blood bath because they will achieve no result in Afghanistan or in Iraq.
You have seen what happened in Iraq. That took place even though Iraq is a wide open desert. Then what do you think of Afghanistan with these mighty mountains. No one could defeat it till the hereafter. They are just hitting the rock. They will scratch it but they will not demolish it. Continue the war in Afghanistan in Iraq. But I want to save them. I want to say these hapless nations. America and the other countries that fight in Afghanistan and Iraq. We are saying you have to leave Afghanistan for the Afghanis. You have leave Iraq for the Iraqis. Leave them even if they fight each other. They are free to do so. The civil war took place even in the USA. Nobody interfered. The civil war also took place in Spain and in China and in many parts of the world and nobody interfered. If it is a civil war let it go on. Leave it for the Iraqis and for the Afghans to fight each other – they are free.

Who says that if the taleban rule Afghanistan they will become a threat? Do the taleban have any intercontinental missiles? The airliner that hit New York. Did it come from Afghanistan or Iraq. These airliners took off from Kennedy airport in New York. So why do we go and strike Afghanistan. They are not Afghans, not taleban, nor Iraqis. Why should we keep silent about these things. Those who keep silent regarding what is right is like a silent devil. We won't be silent devils. It is our right because we are keen on world peace. We are keen on the destiny of the world. We do not want to undermine humanity in this manner.

Then after that Mr Ali Tereki, the general assembly has to launch investigations of the assassinations. You have to launch an investigation once again on the assassination of Patrice Lumumba. We want this recorded in our African history. How an African leader, an African liberator was assassinated. We want to establish who killed him and to record that for history so that our sons will learn history and they will known why Patrice Lumumba the hero of African-Congolese liberation was killed. Even after 50 years. And that act has to be denounced and those responsible have to be held accountable. This file has to be opened and we have to go back to the old documents.

Then we would like to know who killed the UN Secretary General Hamashold. Who bombed his aircraft in 1961, the same year in which Lumumba was killed. We want to know who bombed the plane of the UN Secretary General. We want to know who bombed it and who had an interest in that.

Then we come to Kennedy's assassination in 1963. The UN General Assembly has to open the file of Kennedy's assassination. We want to know why he was killed. He was killed by someone called Lee Harvey and someone called Jack Rubbi killed Lee Harvey, the assasin of Kennedy.
We want to know why this Jack Rubbi, the Israeli, killed the assassin of Kennedy. And Jack Rubbi himself, the killer of Kennedy's killer also died in vague circumstances before his trial. We have to return to these files and we have to know.
What I know and what the world knows and what we studied in history is that Kennedy decided to inspect the Israeli Dimona reactor to see whether it has nuclear bombs. That is the reason he was got rid of. As long as the case in international in this manner and it concerns world peace and weapons of mass destruction we have to open investigations into the reason why Kennedy was killed.

You should also open the file of Martin Luther King. This vicar who was a black activist and human rights campaigner and his assassination was a conspiracy. This file has to opened to establish who killed him and prosecute him.
And further more who killed Khalil Al Wazir the Palestinian Abu Jihad. He was attacked in a sovereign country, a member of this assembly. That is Tunisia where he stayed in its captial. But there was an attack by four warships, two submarines and two helicopters. The independence of that state was not respected as is clear from the assassination of Khalil Al Wazir.
How could we keep silent about such matters. If we keep silent there could be submarines coming to our countries and we could see warships coming to our coasts and pick up anyone they like without being held accountable.
Then we have the death of Abu Ayad. He was killed in very ambiguous circumstances. Then we have operations such as Al Fardan Operation and the Youth Spring Operation where Kamal Nasser was killed and where Kamal Udwan and Abu Yousif Al Najar were killed. These three Palestinians were killed in Lebanon which is a sovereign state and member of the UN General Assembly. We have to establish who killed them. We have to prosecute them so that such havoc is not repeated.

You would like to know as well why Maurice Bishop the head of Grenada was killed. We have tackled how Grenada was attacked, with how many war ships and troops. We said they launched an attack on Grenada with 7,000 soldiers, 15 war ships and scores of fighter planes. The president of this member state of the general assembly Maurice Bishop was killed. We can't keep silent about these crimes. Otherwise we will all become victims and sacrifices and every year it would be the turn of someone. We are not animals and we are not sacrifices. We are defending our existence, we are defending ourselves our sons and our grandsons. We are not afraid. We have the right to live. This globe is not only for the super powers. God created it for all of us. We should never live in humiliation

Then we have to open investigations into the evil massacres of Sabra and Shhatila which claimed 3,000 human victims. This village was under the protection of the occupying Israeli army. Then a massacre was carried out of Palestinian men, women and children. Most of them were Palestinians. How could we keep silent.
Lebanon is an independent state and a member of this assembly. The area of Sabra and Shatila was occupied and 3,000 were slaughtered. Then there is the massacre of Gaza in 2008. And for your information there were a thousand woman killed an injured. And 2,200 children. It means that there were 3,200 women and children only. Fifty educational centres belonging to the UN were demolished. Thirty non-governmental organisations were demolished including international relief organisations. Sixty clinics were demolished.. Forty doctors and nurses were killed while they were doing their humanitarian work. That was the outcome the Gaza massacre in December 2008.
The culprits are still living. They have to be prosecuted in the international criminal court. But if the International Criminal Court is only targeting the smaller states and Third World countries this is not right. Those culprits have to be tried in the court unless it was not international. Then we would not recognise it. If it is international everybody is subjected to it.
As long as the International Court of Justice is not respected and its rulings not implemented and as long as the International Atomic Energy Agency does not include all countries and the general assembly is doing nothing and the Security Council is monopolised then the United Nations is nothing. There is no United Nations.

Then we come to piracy. This phenomenon may spread to all the seas. It could become a threat like terrorism. Let us tackle Somali piracy. I am telling you the Somalis are not pirates. The pirates are ourselves because we exploited all the fishing grounds. We undermined their livelihood. We undermined their economies and their regional waters.
All the ships of the world, whether from Libya, India, Japan or America exploited Somali waters and we are the aggressors. After the Somali state collapsed we came to pick up the remnants. The Somalis had to defend their marine wealth which is their food and the food of their children. Then they transformed themselves into pirates to defend themselves. They are not pirates. They only defend their livelihood. And now you are handling it in the wrong way. You are saying let us send warships to strike the Somalis. No. warships should go to strike the pirates who undermined the Somali wealth and resources. You have to strike the foreign fishing boats.

Anyhow I held a meeting with the pirates. I told them I would make an agreement between them and the world. The world has to respect the Somali economy area up to 200 nautical miles according to the law of the seas. All the marine wealth in that area belongs to the Somalis. The world has to respect this economic area. This is first.
Then second, all the countries should abstain from dumping hazardous waste in the Somali economic area of the Somali coast and in return the Somalis will abstain from attacking ships. We will draft this agreement and we will present it to the UN General Assembly. That is the solution. The solution is not more strikes against the Somalis.
What is worse is that their warships are preventing the Somalis from going into the sea for fishing. This is the wrong handling, this is the wrong approach. Our way of tackling terrorism is wrong.

Our handling of matters is actually wrong. If the vaccination for swine flu is produced and there could be more flus of God or flus of fish then the factories that belong to the intelligence operate and they sell at a high price. This is trade. They produce a virus and they spread it across the world so that capitalist companies gain money from selling vaccines. This is shameful. The vaccines are not to be sold. Medicines are not to be sold. You have to read the Green Book. It does not allow the selling of medicines. If we say the medicines are free and the vaccines are free and no viruses are spread because it is they who produce these viruses in order to produce vaccines. That is how capitalist companies work. This is the wrong approach. You have to declare that medicines are free and not for sale.
Even if the viruses are real we should not sell the vaccines. They have to be offered for free.

All these matters are submitted in files to be discussed by the UN General Assembly. It has nothing to do but this work.
Then we have the Ottowa agreement which bans the production, the shipment or sale of mines etc
This is wrong. The mines are not offensive weapons. They are defensive. The mines do not move. They do not attack. It remains wherever it is planted. That means you went to it. Why did you go to it? I would like to plant mines on the borders of my country because you are aggressing my country. Let your hand or leg be amputated. I urge you to review this Ottowa agreement. This appeal could be seen in the internet, in the website Al Qadhafi talks. This agreement has to be revoked or amended.
They want to deprive us even from the mines which are anti personnel. If I want to plant a mine in front of my home or farm then this is my way of defense. It is not offensive. You may cancel the atomic weapons the missiles and inter-continental missiles.

As for the Palestinian cause the two-state solution is impossible. I urge you not to speak about it. The only solution is one democratic state for Jews and for Muslims for Palestinians and Christians and all others – like Lebanon. The two state-solution is not practical and impossible. There can be no two neighbouring states which are to much overlapping. Any division will inevitably fail.
Firstly the two states are not neighbours but are overlapping from all aspects, population, geography and so forth. There are no states. You can't establish a dividing no man's land between them because it doesn't exist.
The West Bank has half a million Israeli settlers. The so-called Israel has a million Palestinian settlers. How can we establish two states. The world has to go to impose one democratic state without any religious, nationalist or linguistic bigotry. Bigotry is reactionary and it is time is well over. These are thoughts of the guard. The ideas of the Third World War. The ideas of men like Yasser Arafat and Sharon. All these are over. The new generation wants one democratic state. We have to exert every effort to impose on them one state where all people co-exist.
Look at the Palestinian youth. Look at Israeli youth. They want peace. They want to live in one state. This is the way to end this headache which undermines and poisons the whole world. The White Book has the solution for Israel. You have to consider it, Ali Al Treiki.

The Arabs have no animosity with the Israelis. They are cousins and they live with them in peace. The Palestinian refugees must return and they have to live peacefully in one state. It is you who make the holocaust for them. You burned them down in the chambers of gas in Europe. It is you who hate the Jews but we don't.
We have accommodated them, we protected them since Roman days and since they were expelled from Andulsia. We also protected them in the days of Hitler and from the gas chambers of Hitler. It is ourselves who protected them and it is you who expelled them. You expelled them and told them go and fight the Arabs.
Let us expose this reality. We are not enemies of the Jews. They are our cousins. The Jews will need the Arabs one day but the Arabs will not protect them as they did in the past. Let us have a look at what Tito did. What Hadrin did. What Edward 1 did and what Hitler did to the Jews. You hate them and you are anti-Semitic.

As for the issue of Kashmir in short in has no solution unless it becomes one independent state to buffer between India and Pakistan. It will become neither Indian nor Pakistani and the conflict will be over. As for Darfur I hope that the aid you sent to international aid organisations are transferred to other projects, development, industrial and agricultural. Darfur is now living in peace and there is no war. It is you who blew it up so as to interfere and establish a foothold for the sake of oil and you sacrificed the people of Darfur.

Why do I tackle all these issues? It is because we have to investigate these issues. Previously you have submitted the case of Al Hariri, God have mercy on him, to the United Nations. Why did you do so? Is it because you wanted to sacrifice the blood of Al Hariri and you sold the body of Al Hariri in order to settle scores with Syria. If it not so why did Lebanon, which is an independent state with a judiciary laws and police and everything and could determine who the culprits are. But in this matter it is not the culprits who are wanted. What is wanted is the settlement of scores with Syria and sacrificing the issue of Al Hariri and we will get nowhere in the issue of Al Hariri.
Therefore all the cases of Abu, Khalil Al Wazir, Kennedy, Lumumba, Hammershold should be transferred to the United Nations as the others were.

At any rate the UN General Assembly is chaired by Libya and this is its right. The work that could be done by Libya is to help the world in moving from one phase to another, from this world which is lost, bitter, shameful, terrorised and threatened to move to a more human world where there is peace and tolerance.
I will follow up this work with the General Assembly and with Ali Al Teriki and with the UN Secretary General because we will not be complacent and we will not be submissive regarding the fate of humanity.
Humanity has to struggle in order to live in peace. The struggle by the Third World and the smaller states, 100 of them in order to live in dignity and in freedom is a continued struggle and it has to continue till the end. Peace and blessings.

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Upon return, Saif, launched an environment-friendly initiative to teach children how they can help clean up parts of Libya. Not so crazy
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Saif, his son, criticized his father's regime in 2006. He left the country, but soon returned.
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True RT @Madame_Dawsha One of his adopted daughters, Hannah was killed in a US Air strike
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The next eldest son by his second wife is Saif al-Islam Muammar Al-Gaddafi. Our beloved one. #Libya #Feb17
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#Gaddafi eldest son, Muhammad al-Gaddafi, was born to a wife now in disfavour, but runs the Libyan Olympic Committee. #Libya #Feb17
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Nothing crazy there, oddly enough :P
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#Gaddafi is married to Safia Farkash. Gaddafi has eight biological children, seven of them sons. He also had two adopted children #Libya
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Construction of the Great Man Made River, started in 1984, didn't finish yet. #Gaddafi calls it the 8th world wonder. A gift to 3rd world
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The Great Manmade River original cost was $5 billion. The completed project my actually cost $25 billion.
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#Gaddafi is trying to build The Great Manmade River is a network of pipes that supplies 6,500,000 m³ of fresh water/day http://bit.ly/b1Vz9p
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#Gaddafi referred to Barack Obama as "son of Africa" #Libya #Feb17
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#Gaddafi called for a one-state solution for Palestine and Israel. I add, he called it "Isratine" <---Seriously #feb17 #Libya
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#Gaddafi accused Israel of assassinating John F. Kennedy. #Feb17 #Libya
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#Gaddafi also claimed that a foreign military was responsible for the H1N1 outbreak. #Libya #Feb17
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#Gaddafi also defended the Taliban and Somali Pirates. #Libya #Feb17
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Gaddafi’s speech to the United Nations General Assembly 23/9/2009 http://www.btinternet.com/~davidbeaumont/msf/gadafi.htm #Libya #Feb17
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In Sept 2009 #Gaddafi spoke at the UN general assembly spoke for Gaddafi spoke for one hour and 36 minutes. #Libya #Feb17
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In 1995, Gaddafi expelled some 30,000 Palestinians living in Libya, in response to the peace negotiations between Israel and the PLO #Libya
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He also maintains that Berbers are a myth created by colonialists. #Libya #Gaddafi #Feb17
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Gaddafi has often expressed an overt contempt for the Berbers, a non-Arab people of North Africa, and for their language. #Libya #Feb17
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Gaddafi at the 2009 Arab League Summit, at which he claimed to be the King of Kings, "leader of the Arab leaders" and "imam of the Muslims"
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The ceremony was to encourage African heads of state and government to join with #Gaddafi toward a "United States of Africa" #Libya #Feb17
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Over 200 African traditional rulers and kings took part in the ceremony. #Libya #Gaddafi #Feb17
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On 29 August 2008, Gaddafi held a public ceremony in Benghazi in which he was self-handed the title "King of Kings of Africa" #Libya #Feb17
28 minutes ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
@
@RevolutionBlog_ Yes check my blog. Its in the misc section of the "great Libyan archive" check the sidebar
29 minutes ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
#Gaddafi is also seen by many Africans as a humanitarian, pouring large amounts of money into sub-Saharan states. Me:Mercenaries? #libya
29 minutes ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
All these excerpts are from #Gaddafi's Wikipedia page. #Libya #feb17
31 minutes ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
Gaddafi also said that Christianity was unimportant. #Libya #Feb17
31 minutes ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
In front of 200 young Italian women #Gaddafi had paid a modeling agency to attend that he urged them convert to Islam. Gave each a Quran.
32 minutes ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
During a two-day visit to Italy in August 2010 #Gaddafi upset his hosts by stating that Europe should convert to Islam. #Libya #Feb17
34 minutes ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
He planned abolishing all ministries, except: defence, internal security, and foreign affairs, and depts implementing strategic projects.
37 minutes ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
In 2008 #Gaddafi announced his intention to dissolve the country's existing admin structure and disburse oil revenue directly to the people
38 minutes ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
#Gaddafi openly called upon his supporters to "kill enemies" of his revolution and anyone who asks for political change within #Libya #Feb17
39 minutes ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
@
@RevolutionBlog_ I've seen that video 3 days ago. Doubt it
39 minutes ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
When that was protested, #Gaddafi cancelled his plans, and moved his tent to Donald Trumps estate in Bedford #Libya #Feb17
46 minutes ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
When attending a UN session in 2009, #Gaddafi wanted to erect a tent in Central Park and Libyan govt. property in NJ. #Libya #Feb17
47 minutes ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
#Gaddafi often resides in a tent when travelling. #Libya #Feb17
48 minutes ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
#Gaddafi paid each family of Lockerebie victims $10,000,000, while he shoots his people so freely. #Libya #Feb17
50 minutes ago

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@
@monaeltahawy Yeah I fixed it in the next tweet. Thanks for the heads up though :)
1 hour ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
In Gaddafi's own words Libya's society is "ruled by the people", so he needs no more grandiose title or supreme military rank #Libya #Feb17
1 hour ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
@
@submergingmkt You probably mean Saif his son
1 hour ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
Let me fix that. He just promoted himself from Captain to Colonel. Even crazier lol. #Gaddafi #GaddafiLunacy #Feb17 #Libya
1 hour ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
Assuming power, #Gaddafi, did not promote himself. He is still a Colonel! #GaddafiLunacy #Libya #Feb17
1 hour ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
The slim 27-year-old Gaddafi, with a taste for safari suits and sunglasses, then sought to become the new "Che Guevara of the age" #Libya
1 hour ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
#Gaddafi is the longest-serving ruler of Libya since Libya, then Tripoli, became an Ottoman province in 1551. #Libya #Feb17
1 hour ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
Gaddafi is 4th longest non-royal ruling leader http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest_ruling_non-royal_leaders #Libya
1 hour ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
I will read Gaddafi's Wikipedia page and bring you nuggets of his brutality craziness. Stay tuned
1 hour ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:38 AM
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59. Still killing me. fifth eldest, Hannibal #Gaddafi attacked three Italian policemen with a fire extin
Edited on Mon Feb-21-11 12:39 AM by Catherina
ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
The fifth eldest, Hannibal #Gaddafi. He attacked three Italian policemen with a fire extinguisher. #Libya #Feb17
1 minute ago

ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
Who calls his son Hannibal anyways? #Libya #Feb17 #Gaddafi
1 minute ago

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In September 2004, Hannibal, was briefly detained in Paris after driving a Porsche at 90 mph in the wrong direction.
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ArabRevolution تباً لك ياطاغوت
What street in Paris you ask? the Champs-Élysées. Oh and while intoxicated. #Haniball #Gaddafi #Libya #Feb17
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:06 AM
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37. CONFIRMED by antigov protesters: Ppl from #Zawia were unable to enter #Tripoli n help out! About
freelibyanyouth Shabab Libya
PLS RT:CONFIRMED by antigov protesters: Ppl from #Zawia were unable to enter #Tripoli n help out! About 50000 in Zawia have protested.#libya
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 01:04 AM
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66. k/r
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:15 AM
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44. Tweets slow now. On this day, Feb 21 in 1965, MalcolmX was assassinated
RIP Malcolm
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:17 AM
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45. Latest Video from Tripoli

ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
Latest Video from Tripoli February 20th, 2011 http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=111972228880797&oid=133738650025293&comments #libya
3 minutes ago


Videos Posted by Libyan Youth Movement


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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:20 AM
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47. He's using missiles on his own people.


@kinyeru
Street King
RT @coldtusker: RT @habibh: "Massacre in Benghazi, Gaddafi is using missiles, killing libyans, help us, help us, hel... http://bit.ly/eWkkv6



@Jnoubiyeh
Sarah Abdallah
Al Jazeera BREAKING: Eyewitness in #Tripoli confirms another massacre in Green Square. Too many bodies to count. #Gaddafi #Feb17 #Libya
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 01:06 AM
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67. Exactly ... how would Gadaffi ever continue to govern Libya? Would be imossible ...
not only in light of this uprising -- and his slaughter of so many sons of Libya --

but the international community cannot possibly ignore all of this!!

???????????
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 01:51 AM
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69. If only he could have done it in secret, then for the sake of the
business deals and the oil, the 'international community' COULD have ignored it. It's like the old royals, they could ahve their affairs, so long as they didn't go public, then of course 'something had to be done about it'.

He could govern once he gained control of the country again. He would have many, many people arrested and tortured and executed, and the country would be controlled once again, until the next time.

Thank the gods for Twitter, FB and the blogs. That is what it made impossible for them to hide their dirty deeds.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 01:52 PM
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70. There were reports mercenaries picking up bodies with trucks ... obvious intent to hide them...
Edited on Mon Feb-21-11 01:53 PM by defendandprotect
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:28 AM
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54. Audio from last night: Clear English from an American there
3arabawy Hossam عمو حسام
"Non-stop" gunfire in Libya's capital http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlvwhCNQbOQ #Libya
2 minutes ago


"Non-stop" gunfire in Libya's capital
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlvwhCNQbOQ
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:31 AM
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55. Like daylight at nightime
Edited on Mon Feb-21-11 12:33 AM by sabrina 1
@cinnamon_carter
cinnamon carter
RT @Marwabenhalim: Source inside #Tripoli. 'Its a massacre in Green Square - its daylight at night time. #Libya #feb17
12 minutes ago



@antheawatson
antheawatson
Tonight, helpless, I bore witness to a massacre in Libya from my couch. http://youtu.be/zDozcByEYOE May God be with those I cannot help
9 minutes ago



@mukirimwithiga
Mukiri Mwithiga
Gadaffi is deadly..literally how can he use anti carrier missiles on ppl. alive.in/libya/2011/02/…
13 minutes ago

He's a war criminal now. I hope he's tried for war crimes ....



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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:40 AM
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61. Help on the way?
@Warchadi
Ahmed Nasri
A source from #Libya " Right now the regime playing his last card..an elite squad will join population to fight him back. time question."
10 minutes ago


@diceylee808
dicey lee
#Libya Report from #Tripoli: 'They have gone to one hospital in Tripoli and killed 4 doctors an eye witness told me.'
2 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:33 AM
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57. situation has calmed somewhat in Tripoli, and residents are praying the morning Fajr prayer.
AJELive AJELive
A Libyan abroad with family in Tripoli says the situation has calmed somewhat there, and residents are praying the morning Fajr prayer.
3 minutes ago
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:40 AM
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60. security and military forces have withdrawn and the city is run by "young people".
evanchill Evan Hill
Moftah, Benghazi protester, told Al Jazeera earlier that security and military forces have withdrawn and the city is run by "young people".
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Which city? Tripoli or Benghazi?
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:42 AM
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62. Moftah, Benghazi protester, told Al Jazeera earlier that security and military forces have withdrawn
evanchill Evan Hill
Moftah, Benghazi protester, told Al Jazeera earlier that security and military forces have withdrawn and the city is run by "young people".
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:44 AM
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64. But which city? I tweeted Evan asking. n/t
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:42 AM
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63. Part 13 here
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 12:44 AM
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65. Libyan diplomats abroad beginning to resing
@nancycasanova
Nancy Casanova
#Libya ambassador to India tells the BBC he has resigned in protest at government's crackdown on protesters via @REUTERSFLASH
42 minutes ago


@Tripolitanian
Libyan
AlJazeera Arabic confirms injured protesters arriving at #Tripoli hospitals are being killed by pro-gov forces #Libya
2 hours ago


And there are reports that they are killing doctors, four doctors killed at one hospital ...

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