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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 01:36 PM
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Revistiting the cruelty of Fred Phelps, aka DPOS
Edited on Mon Feb-21-11 01:43 PM by demmiblue
From: Addicted to Hate: The Fred Phelps Story


Sometimes Pastor Phelps preferred to grab one child by their little hands and haul them into the air. Then he would repeatedly smash his knee into their groin and stomach while walking across the room and laughing. The boys remember this happening to Nate when he was only seven, and to Margie and Kathy even after they were sexually developed teenagers. Nate recalls being taken into the church once where his father, a former golden gloves boxer, bent him backwards over a pew, body-punched him, spit in his face, and told him he hated him. Mark's very first memory in this life is an emotional scar: their mom had gone to the hospital to give birth to Jonathon. Mark remembers being very upset, since now they would be alone in the house with their father, his threatening presence left unmitigated by her maternal concern. Though only five, already Mark could use the phone and, one day while his father was out he dialed the number she'd left.

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In fact, Mark adds, Nate's obstinate resistance so angered his father that, by age nine, when a family outing had been planned, frequently Nate not only missed it, but Fred would remain behind with him. "And during the course of the day, my father would beat Nate whenever the spirit moved him." Mark remembers the family coming back once to find Pastor Phelps jogging around the dining room table, beating the sobbing boy with a broom handle; while doing so, he was alternately spitting on the frightened child and chuckling the same sinecure laugh so disturbing to those who've seen him on television. When he wasn't allowed to go along, says Mark, "Nate would literally scream and chase mom as she drove off with us kids in the car. He knew what was coming after we left." The older brother remembers the little one racing alongside the windows, begging for them not to leave him until, like a dog, he could no longer keep up. Mark sorrowfully admits he felt no empathy for him, only relief it wasn't happening to himself. "I just stared straight ahead. I didn't know what he was yelling about. I was just glad to get the hell out of there." But how could their mom tolerate that? Wouldn't the maternal instinct cut in at some point? Wouldn't the lioness turn in fury to protect her cub?

It turns out Mrs. Phelps was herself an abused child, according to her sons. "The only thing she ever told us about her dad was that he was a drunkard who beat them. She said she'd always run and hide in the watermelon patch when he was raging." Though most of her nine brothers and sisters either settled in Kansas City or remained in rural Missouri, Mrs. Phelps has had virtually no contact with them during the last 40 years. Not since she married Fred. "My father was very effective at jamming Bible verses down her throat about wives being in subjection to their husbands," Nate says. "She was a small woman and very gentle. She felt God had put her with Fred and she had to endure." "Oh, mom would try to interfere," adds Mark. "She'd come running out, finally, into the church auditorium as the beating would escalate, and yell wildly, 'Fred, stop it!" You're going to kill him!' "And then my father would turn on her. I remember him screaming, 'Oh, so you want me to just let them go, huh? You don't believe in discipline, huh? Why don't you just shut your goddam mouth before I slap you? Get your fat hussy ass out of here! I'm warning you, goddamit, you either shut up or I'm going to beat you!' "And then," Mark continues, "she'd shut up till she couldn't take it anymore, then she'd start again. When she did, he'd start beating her and hitting her with his fist, and sometimes she'd just come up and grab him. Sometimes she'd run out the front door, and sometimes he'd just slap her and beat her until she'd shut up. "I can remember times when she'd get hit so hard, it looked like she'd be knocked out, and she'd stagger and almost fall. She would give out this desperate scream right at the moment when he would hit her.

"Sometimes, after he'd get done beating her, he'd have forgotten about the kid. Sometimes he'd go back to the kids and beat even harder. Then he'd blame the kid for what had happened." The phone line falls silent. "Out in public," recalls Nate, "she wore sunglasses a lot." Mrs. Phelps was beaten even when she wasn't interfering. After Nate and Kathy, the boys figure their mom was victimized the most. They remember their father finishing one session by throwing her down the stairs from the second floor. "It had 16 steps," says Mark. "And no rail," continues Nate. "Mom grabbed at the stairs going over and tore the ligaments and cartilage in her right shoulder. The doctor said she needed surgery, but my father refused. We had no medical insurance back then. She's had a bad shoulder ever since. My father often chose that same shoulder to re-injure when he was beating mom. He'd grab her right arm and jerk it. She'd yelp." The voice in the phone sighs: "But...I guess I do still feel that very deeply...that she betrayed a gut, primitive bond when she drove off and left me. I do love my mom. But I wish she'd put a stop to it. She could have and she didn't." Pastor Phelps denies beating his children or his wife. "Hardly a word of truth to that stuff. You know, it's amazing to me that even one of them stayed." He grins, referring to the nine daughters and sons who remain loyal to him. Why?

http://www.robertslevinson.com/gaylesissues/features/collect/phelps/bl_phelpsmain.htm


You can also google Nate Phelps to find out more background info on the Phelps family.


Edited to take out a paragraph per DU's policy. Whoops.

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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 01:48 PM
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1. "cruel people believe in a cruel god, and use god's cruelty to justify their own"
I forget who said that - Twain, Paine or Shakespeare
and I doubt if my quote is completely accurate.
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 03:10 PM
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2. Accurate or not, it is the truth.
:hi:
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 09:38 PM
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7. It was Paine but I'm not sure about the accuracy
you are real close if not exact...
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 03:12 PM
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3. I guess I should have edited my title, as well.
:o Just noticed.
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 08:41 PM
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4. Night kick.
:kick:
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 09:10 PM
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5. Question about the link
I wanted to read the snipped paragraph, so I clicked the link. Upon clicking, I was not presented with the article directly, but rather a series of chapters. I assume the work you quote constitutes one of those chapters, but you didn't name it. Which one is it?
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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 09:36 PM
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6. Sorry about that.
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-21-11 10:44 PM
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8. thank you, reading now :) nt
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