NBC News: Some WI GOP State Senators maybe caving

[itsrobert]

Just reported on MSNBC

[joeunderdog]

1. Won't matter unless they amend the budget rather than asking for a vote.

Otherwise, I'd be worried about an ambush.

Not that they'd do anything underhanded or anything...

[Goblinmonger]

17. We only need 3 to change their mind to kill the bill.

Then they could start over with something a little more reasonable.

[joeunderdog]

18. Or they could be bluffing.

I believe nothing from these crooks. Until it's unretractable, don't believe it.

[CTyankee]

2. on taking the collective bargaining right off the table?

[itsrobert]

4. A few have been negotiating with Dem State Sentators

And they said their is movement on that issue.

[HereSince1628]

7. Who said? Where said? Exactly what said?

I think we need a link.

[itsrobert]

13. Who "NBC News"

Where "MSNBC"

Exactly I'm not a f'ing stenographer.

[HereSince1628]

14. Not trying to be difficult, but last night there was hoopla about noth'n

I am afraid a 12 hour lag time is about right for things on the ground to make it to broadcast on MSNBC.

The Schultz defection isn't a defection. It's a commitment to his reform, which strips state workers of their rights during the Walker administration.

That's not compromise, that's pushing for workers to be placed on the slippery slope.

[KansDem]

9. Don't forget the provision allowing the Koch Bros to buy WI public untitlities...

...with no-bid contracts.

[Karia]

15. And the one that puts Walker appointees in charge of the university

And everything else about the bill...

KILL THE BILL!!!!!!

[KansDem]

16. Damn, I wasn't aware of that one!

:grr:

[nebenaube]

3. link? n/t

[itsrobert]

6. "Just reported on MSNBC"

How do I link a TV channel?

[rurallib]

10. I heard it earlier on MSNBC

one senator for sure and two more very likely IIRC - with a 3rd possible.

[HereSince1628]

5. This should not be accepted until they make public statements

The Schultz hoopla of last night had no caving in it.

He was just pushing his "compromise" that sate workers bargaining writes should only be shut down during the Walker administration.

That sort of caving is meant to kill workers unions.

[rurallib]

8. wouldn't trust a republican as far as I could throw them.

[The Magistrate]

12. Hear Hear, Sir

Snakes are snakes, neither to be pitied nor censured, but watched....

[Badfish]

11. It's a face saver.

Walker can't be seen as caving , so these selected few will cross the line and kill the bill , all the while Walker is standing on his principles.

Walker was probably handed a list of face saving actions and had to chose one.

[calimary]

19. That may be it. I've read quite a bit over the years about negotiations and

the strategy of face-saving. As in - folly to back the enemy into such a corner that he then has no motivation to get himself out of it. You offer him something that allows him to save face while still pressing your advantage and gaining your objective. And if, indeed, there are republi-CON hopes being pinned on this guy - as "the great liberator!" Our "Great Hope for the Future!" "New Leadership!" "New face - and it's younger, too (no gray hair even)!" I've seen this argument made in regards to attempts to remove dictators and despots.

Might not matter much. If it's spun as "WE WON, he LOST", that's all that counts. And we can certainly do that, with every breath! Nobody out there in mainstream medialand is liable to care that much - and the simpletons doing most of the anchoring and reporting will go for the simplest approach, so it'll likely be "WE WON, he LOST."

Which is GOOD!

Meanwhile, The Magistrate is quite correct - these assholes are SNAKES. And they need to be watched. AT ALL TIMES.