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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 11:28 AM
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Huckabee and Gingrich are speaking from the same RW talking point.
So it was no mistake or accident or slip of the tongue. Nor was it that Huckabee 'simply misspoke'


From September 2010

Gingrich's Comments:

Gingrich’s comments came in reference to a Forbes article by conservative Dinesh D’Souza, which suggests that the president shares an anticolonial ideology with his father, a Luo tribesman from Kenya who Obama barely knew.

“What if is so outside our comprehension, that only if you understand Kenyan, anti-colonial behavior, can you begin to piece together ?” Gingrich told the Review, adding that “this is a person who is fundamentally out of touch with how the world works, who happened to have played a wonderful con, as a result of which he is now president.”

Gingrich’s comments – and Mr. D’Souza’s article – are fueling the storyline that some conservatives are banking on for the November elections: Obama as someone who isn’t American, by birth or beliefs, and who doesn’t belong in the Oval Office. But it’s an argument that leaves some Republicans uncomfortable.


From February 2011

Huckabee's Comments


MALZBERG: Don't you think it's fair also to ask him, I know your stance on this. How come we don't have a health record, we don't have a college record, we don't have a birth cer - why Mr. Obama did you spend millions of dollars in courts all over this country to defend against having to present a birth certificate. It's one thing to say, I've -- you've seen it, goodbye. But why go to court and send lawyers to defend against having to show it? Don't you think we deserve to know more about this man?

HUCKABEE: I would love to know more. What I know is troubling enough. And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, very different than the average American. When he gave the bust back to the Brits --

MALZBERG: Of Winston Churchill.

HUCKABEE: The bust of Winston Churchill, a great insult to the British. But then if you think about it, his perspective as growing up in Kenya with a Kenyan father and grandfather, their view of the Mau Mau Revolution in Kenya is very different than ours because he probably grew up hearing that the British were a bunch of imperialists who persecuted his grandfather.



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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 11:29 AM
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1. Isn't it amazing to think that there are Americans who are ignorant enough...
...to believe this shit?!
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 11:30 AM
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2. Isn't America supposed to be anti-Colonial? n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 11:34 AM
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4. Well, there was that war....a long, long time ago. Something about
King George, Founding Fathers...
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 11:36 AM
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5. Yup, I guess Huckabee and Gingrich are on the unAmerican side of that war.
:puke:
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 11:43 AM
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7. They're trying to rewrite that, too. The founders really didn't want freedom from
Britain, they just didn't like those damn taxes...

See, that's why they called themselves Tea Partiers...
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flakey_foont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 11:33 AM
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3. gawd!
speaking to the lowest common denominator

they are such idiotic statements.....
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elias49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 11:39 AM
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6. Oh God! Obama's SO out of the mainstream!!
What's next? He doesn't consume enough corn-syrup and his kids don't watch TV...
How un-American can one family be??

Fucking morans...and I don't mean just Gingrich and Huck. I mean all those "Americans" that find this shit pertinent.
I have a feeling that Barack Obama kmows just fine what it means to be an American.
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savalez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 12:31 PM
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9. +1
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 12:02 PM
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8. Newt is completely full of --it
Nothing new there - but his past as a college teacher gives him a leg up on the "spinning superficially plausible theories" school of public discourse. The role of this sort of thing in academia is to crank up discussion, and, hopefully, to have students work out the truth by blowing holes in the teacher's premise.
Trouble is, out in the bloviasphere, leeches like BecKKK and Limburger seize on arguments like these as "the new truth", and indoctrinate the goobers with them 'til the next one comes along.
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UnDued11 Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 12:34 PM
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10. Yes indeed.. You cannot "un-say" something
They all know exactly what they are doing..It's just the age-old dog-whistle message sent out to their "base".

It's a message that says "You know I believe the same things you believe, but I have to play the game in order to trick OTHERS to vote for me too, so I'll say this shit and then "retract" enough to let others think I misspoke..but "we" know how to read between the lines, don't we"..
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 01:20 PM
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11. K&R Nice catch
It's always fascinating to see pols talking from the same script.

But LOL - politicians accusing other politicians of being out of touch with how the world works

:rofl:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 02:54 PM
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12. All of African history and political economy studies the world over is anti-colonial. Even if you
Edited on Wed Mar-02-11 02:55 PM by applegrove
study it in Britain. What a bunch of morons. Only totally ignorant people think colonialism was a good thing in africa. Once again the GOP in America counts on their followers being completely naive on an issue. I mean gosh I studied African History and we used African novels instead of a textbook. And golly gee guess what? All those african novels were anti-colonial. Imagine that. Obama is just informed and the GOP hold that against him because it differs with what the ignorant GOP masses think. Any difference in knowledge sure is exploited by the right in America.
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