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Thu Mar-03-11 08:12 PM
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They aren't scared of us anymore. |
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Thomas Jefferson said, "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." Discuss. =) Duckie
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Thu Mar-03-11 08:15 PM
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Thu Mar-03-11 08:17 PM
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2. They haven't been for decades. n/t |
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Thu Mar-03-11 08:29 PM
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3. and why should they be? |
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Apparently they can do anything they want and we just take it.
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YellowRubberDuckie
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Thu Mar-03-11 08:51 PM
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6. Let's fucking do somethinga bout it! |
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Thu Mar-03-11 08:33 PM
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4. Truer words have rarely been spoken. eom |
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Thu Mar-03-11 08:34 PM
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5. "When the people fear their government..." |
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...there is tyranny = contemporary America
when the government fears the people, there is liberty." = post-revolutionary France
Vive la France!
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Thu Mar-03-11 09:42 PM
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10. I'm not sure about France. |
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What about Robespierre and the "Committee of Public Safety" (There's are a name the right-wing would love) and the Reign of Terror? And of course Napoleon Bonaparte.
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Fri Mar-04-11 10:32 AM
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17. I wish I could find stats, but... |
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...France's public sector very large by comparison, and they're public sector unions are strong. It's kind of a built in check-and-balance. What we are seeing nationwide here is the consequence of weakened public sector unions. What we are seeing in Wisconsin is something I would liken to a response to "tyranny."
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Fri Mar-04-11 04:22 PM
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21. Oh I know France is better off now than we are. |
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I thought you meant immediately following the Revolution. Things we not very good for years after it, after Napoleon's defeat the Bourbon Kings were restored to power. Now however they are much better off than us. We are heading in the opposite direction of France and the rest of western Europe.
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Fri Mar-04-11 05:09 PM
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23. Yeah, I don't know a proper demarcation... |
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...perhaps post-WWII. :shrug:
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Thu Mar-03-11 09:08 PM
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7. However, Jefferson didn't say that |
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Thu Mar-03-11 09:19 PM
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Regardless of who said it, though, it's true.
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Thu Mar-03-11 09:38 PM
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9. Jefferson, my favorite president, was then correct. |
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Edited on Thu Mar-03-11 09:39 PM by Poboy
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Thu Mar-03-11 09:43 PM
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11. Yet another reason I argue for gun rights like I do |
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We have to keep the government on its toes, remind them that true power doesn't come from either a gavel or a gun, but from the consent of the governed.
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Thu Mar-03-11 09:50 PM
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....of people, petitioning their government day after day, surrounding their Capitol, demanding resignations and systemic change, will once again 'scare' the pricks....
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Thu Mar-03-11 09:52 PM
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13. what do you have if the 2 are afraid of EACH OTHER ? |
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Thu Mar-03-11 09:54 PM
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14. Balance of power? n/t |
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Thu Mar-03-11 09:56 PM
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15. Favorite quote of the tea party.... |
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Thu Mar-03-11 09:59 PM
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16. Well, I guess we're not trying hard enough.......... |
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Fri Mar-04-11 10:36 AM
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Fri Mar-04-11 10:43 AM
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19. That's true, cause ya know what they fear? |
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Socialism. When the socialist movement in this country regains it's footing they will fear us plenty.
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Fri Mar-04-11 10:51 AM
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20. Only going to get worse |
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Government does not fear those who are dependent on it.
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Fri Mar-04-11 05:10 PM
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24. They're always sacred --- but not in the ways we need them to be ... !!! |
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Fri Mar-04-11 05:10 PM
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25. our government has never feared its people |
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Other than those pesky elections, the people are pretty much ignored unless they have a lot of money or power
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