Would it be a good idea for Obama to come to WI?

[Jackpine Radical]

I'm less sold on that every day.

I'm afraid he'd show up with Jeb Bush & Sarah Palin to help us negotiate a "compromise." Like maybe a no-bid sale of the entire state to the Koch Brothers in return for a promise of really nice campaign contribution in 2012.

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[ewagner]

2. No

I simply don't trust him...he would probably try "political ju justu" on Walker and while he was performing his fancy moves, Walker would take "shotgun" to him....just like the Congressional Republicans do....

[KittyWampus]

3. are you REALLY afraid he'd show up with Jeb Bush & Sarah Palin"? REALLY?

Your OP is nothing but an inflammatory jack-off.

Why bother with the opening question?

Because it's the only way to post the rest of your crap.

[dionysus]

7. it's leaking pools of bitter all over the floor

;)

[KittyWampus]

9. Thing is- I'd be happy to bicker with DU'ers over whether he should go to WI

Have a great weekend everyone.

[Pirate Smile]

15. I think some people are actually answering the real question and ignoring the nasty and stupid.

[Brickbat]

4. After meeting with Jeb Bush and calling him a great education reformer?

No thanks. Leave it to the people who know what they're doing.

[Horse with no Name]

5. There is nothing blinder than those that refuse to see

Obama is showing you exactly who he is and exactly who he represents.

If you (collectively, not personally)refuse to see what you are being shown, then there really isn't any hope for you.

[H2O Man]

6. I'd prefer Michelle.

I think it sends a different, actually more important message if she did.

[QC]

8. No.

It would exalt Scott Walker well above what he deserves to have a president come to his home turf, but beyond that, Obama simply is not credible on labor issues, most especially labor issues involving teachers.

It's better for him to squire Jeb around Miami than to meddle in Madison.

[socialist_n_TN]

22. BINGO! NO cred on labor issues......

It's a people's uprising now. Keep it that way for as long as possible.

[blindpig]

10. Your fears are well founded. n/t

[Karmadillo]

11. On whose side?

nt

[onehandle]

12. His 'comfortable shoes' moment has passed. nt

[Faygo Kid]

13. No, it would make it about him rather than the people and collective bargaining.

Taking the current bitterness against Obama out of the picture, it would be a serious tactical mistake and blow to the effort - Fox and the right would make it all about him.

That's not what Wisconsin is about.

[Pirate Smile]

14. No. It would shift the issue to him instead of the actual issue. Obama staying away was the right

move. It is why the polling is overwhelmingly supportive. It hasn't let the issue become just the standard partisan affair. It hasn't let Republicans exploit it as the Feds trying to trample on the states. It let it stay as the State (Gov) trampling on workers rights.

President Obama can NOT actually help the unions win. We can only win by getting some Republican State Senators to break with the Governor. Making it about workers rights is better then making it about President Obama.

He has handled it well.

A lot of people don't get that he knows when to shut up and not make an issue about him. This is like the RW freaking out because he hasn't made the unrest in the Middle East about the US and about him. It is about them. President Obama staying out of it lets people focus on their dictators whether it is Mubarak, Ghadafi, or (acting like one but not technically one) Walker.

I answered like you asked a real question instead of just another nasty Obama slam. I'll just ignore that uselessness.

[nevergiveup]

16. No, it was a good decision yesterday,

it is a good decision today and will be a good decision tomorrow. If he would go to Wisconsin it would suddenly be all about Walker vs Obama instead of Walker vs the citizens of Wisconsin. It would also be a security nightmare. It is not going to happen.

[Inuca]

19. Oh, but if he comes with his pal Palin

in tow as this thoughtful OP suggests, it would be different, don't you think? :banghead:

[LWolf]

17. Well, he did say he would.

Then again, I can't see where he'd be any help. He's not a champion of public education, he's not a champion of labor.

He'd be more harm than good.

[Davis_X_Machina]

18. No.

To what problem is Obama going the solution?

No one knows what's going on? People already know.
An unpopular position needs visible support? The unions' position is actually the majority one.
The people there need bucking up? People in Finland are buying them pizzas.

The labor movement isn't just unions. The union movement isn't the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party isn't the White House. They overlap, but they only overlap.

More messiah-mongering at DU? I'm shocked.

[Scuba]

20. No, he would only detract from our grass roots efforts.

[Viking12]

21. No!

[Starry Messenger]

23. No.

He'd be no material help at all.

[socialist_n_TN]

24. My position has been the same as yours Jack, but..........

in reality, I'm in TN and you're in WI. What is the nature of the protests IN Wisconsin? Are they populist in nature? And would dragging politics into it change that populist nature.

[Jackpine Radical]

28. Definitely populist here.

Actually, I'm glad Obama is staying out of it; it

s better if it doesn't become all about HIM.

This morning the Teabaggers came to Eau Claire by bus & were hustled in to a hotel party room. They had no public presence & I don't know how many there were. There were about 2,000 protestors outside. (Eau Claire has a pop of about 60,000.) 2 hours later, there was a demonstration 15 miles away with 3-400 people picketing a Republican state senator's place of business. We don't need help from Obama.

[Shagbark Hickory]

25. For re-election, yes. For the conflict, probably not.

He can threaten walker with funding cuts from washington.

[Overseas]

26. It would boost Walker's ego too much. Fuel his crusade. //nt

[elocs]

27. Absolutely NO. This is a people's protest, a people's movement.

If Obama came here it would be about him and the attention would be distracted from our problems.

Please don't come. Support us from afar, but stay away from Wisconsin.