Christian fundamentalist leader: Glenn Beck is a New Age agent of the antichrist

[ck4829]

Time for some good old wingnut vs wingnut action.

A Christian author and national speaker has just released a video in which he flays radio and TV commentator Glenn Beck as a pagan, New Age "anti-Christ" who is deluding many believers away from the Bible's teachings and leading them toward Eastern mysticism.

Brannon Howse of Worldview Weekend in Collierville, Tenn., who was once a defender of Beck, is now blasting the popular Fox News host based on content of Beck's new book, "Seven Wonders That Will Change Your Life," co-authored by psychiatrist Dr. Keith Ablow.

"Back in August of 2010, I tried warning folks that Glenn Beck was a pagan, New Age, universalistic Mormon, and indeed, he now has revealed his hand," Howse says in the video, which is based on a column he wrote earlier this year. "Beck's book is nothing less than a promotion of universalism, postmodernism and pagan spirituality, also known as the New Age movement."

He continued: "I hate to say it, but through testing Glenn's doctrinal fruit, he is not a Christian. In fact indeed, he is a false teacher. He is proclaiming another Jesus and another gospel. ... Nowhere in Beck's new book does he mention the biblical Gospel. In fact, what he mentions is anti-Christ. He's denying the exclusivity of Jesus Christ. What Glenn is promoting is the same lie promoted by Satan in Genesis 3, verses 1–5. And I'm fearful that the spiritual poison Beck is promoting is not seven wonders that will change your life, but in fact lies that will condemn the souls of millions for eternity."

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/howse-glenn-beck-new-age-pagan-promoting-anti-christ

[Warren DeMontague]

1. Nut Declares Fellow Nut Nuts. Film at 11. nt

[calimary]

30. Dammit, Warren!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Common Sense Party]

2. Same ol' same ol'. The Baptists declared "The Seven Habits of Highly

Successful People" (Covey) to be satanic back in the 1980's.

[Recursion]

11. Actually this is that same fight

Dispensationalists vs. non-Dispensationalists.

The theological underpinnings are somewhat interesting, but I don't think Beck actually understands them. He just grew up in a world in which the non-Dispensationalists had won, and he thinks that's the only way people think.

[Taverner]

20. As well as Linux, since it runs "daemons"

:eyes:

Surprisingly, they didn't go after FreeBSD

[Bragi]

3. Being a "New Age agent of the antichrist" is bad, right?

Just wondering.

[RagAss]

4. I hope not. They just made me a member.

:smoke:

[Recursion]

10. Delete

Sorry, wrong place...

[Angry Dragon]

5. Let the gods fight it out

[Myrina]

6. As a "New Ager" with Pagan leanings, this pisses me off.

Beck is anything BUT part of the New Age and/or Pagan sensibilities.

Anti-Christ? Yeah, I'll buy that, but don't try to link New Ageism and Paganism with the Anti Christ. Or with Beck.

[MorningGlow]

9. +1,000

Pagans follow the tenet "Harm none". I think lying and spewing hatred every day disqualifies him.

[OneGrassRoot]

13. Me, too. It's like the people yelling ...

socialist/fascist/communist/Nazi!!

You can't be ALL of those things simultaneously, as they completely contradict one another.

Seems people just don't know the meaning of words any more, nor do they care to learn.

They just throw out labels, truth be damned.

:(

[drokhole]

15. They need to back off Eastern mysticism's nuts as well.

It's a hell of a lot more loving, practical and tolerant than the flavor of Christianity these fuckers practice.

[get the red out]

19. Beck should be considered his own religion

With him worshiping himself and calling on others to do so also. "Homage to the sacred, gaping, asshole!"

Seriously though, do ubber-Christian folks throw out "New Age" every time they get mad out of habit or just laziness? :shrug: Perhaps lack of verbal skills?

[Myrina]

21. They like to dig up the 'dirty pagan worshiping in the woods by the moonlight' imagery ...

... boo! boogie boogie! be afraid! :eyes:

[get the red out]

25. Fish make me nervous

When I get behind a car with the Christian fish symbol on it I can't help but think "so how many rights would you take away from people?"

[Shallah Kali]

28. yeah some sure do get all worked up and worried about suspected nekkid orgies

... and have to go have a lie down in a dark room to calm themselves after...

[RandomThoughts]

7. Leading to the multiple posts.

There are many that have fallen to the delusion of being Gods, that is to break empathy, since they then see other people as lesser, and think they can make some decision based on that false claim.

Also knowing what is good and bad, could be claiming to judge that with certainty, something only God can do. People need to make the best choices they can within the flawed systems, and that includes heart and reason to be able to see when something is of better or worse.

However
There is something wrong with that chapter, it has been changed.

At this web site
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+3&version=NIV

it has a contradiction.

How would the deceiver have said this to Eve

1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”


Then how could God have been reported to say this.
22 And the LORD God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil."

Wouldn't that make the Deceiver telling the truth? How does that make sense? And why was the tree in the garden in the first place, and why would it not be allowed to be eaten from, and put in reach?

And why would God say this.
He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” 23 So the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

I honestly, although some may disagree, believe I know that Cherubim is. And its pretty nice, although people can believe how they want on that.

But anyways why would God worry about people being like him if he was God? And why would he say they are like him, if he is the one true God, by saying that he somehow says there is a tree that makes people 'like God' in that verse, and that makes no sense at all.

If they are like God, couldn't they have a chat with that Cherubim and change its mind, it makes absolutely no sense.

Anyone have some other translations of that verse?


It is not the same text I learned when younger. I think that is the meaning of not going to the store, but having the light within you, because whatever this place is, that text is different then it use to be.



I understand it. It is the definition of the effect of passive resistance. A couple ate the fruit, then they were treated really badly, and that showed them what was good and evil. Because that translation of creation does not fit the God of goodness and kindness as I know him.

Although that probably scares you because you were told not to think and feel about it, but why were you told that?


On a side note, I don't believe that chapter correct, because I don't think people can be 'like God' in my view, God being the One True God of love and kindness, although people can be part of the better spirit of God.

[Recursion]

12. "Cherubim" is plural, incidentally

One of them is a cherub, many are cherubim.

[RandomThoughts]

16. The exact comment made to me, was that his Cherub was sent to help me.

Although plural is great also.

Years ago during a rough period, I found a grey stone on the beach, later after another conflict, I found a white stone. I keep them in my room.

A week or so ago, I found another white stone. It just appeared in a drawer. So maybe plural works also.


Cherubim are on the second floor, I remember that part. I think about Cherubim when hearing this song. One of my favorite.

Suzanne Vega - Luka
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZt7J0iaUD0

[LeftishBrit]

8. Oh don't I know it...

Worldview have been spamming me with their totally unwanted e-mails for at least the last 6 years. For a while, my spam filter dealt with them, but now they're showing up again so I'll have to readjust my filter.

I am glad that the Christian Right are having their circular firing squad; but I'd prefer if they didn't spam me about it!

[damntexdem]

14. I love to see them bickering.

Even better to see them publicly blasting one another.

It all really shows the reason for separation of church and state.

[Kievan Rus]

17. Religious wingnut says Beck is nuts. Well, I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[thereismore]

18. Works for me. nt

[LibertyLover]

22. I'm a pagan, card-carrying as a matter of fact, and

I think that I can recognize a fellow pagan when I see one. I'm here to tell you that Glenn Beck is most definitely not a pagan.

[Dappleganger]

23. He's definitely anti-Christ.

There's absolutely nothing which shows his life to be pro-Jesus.

[walldude]

24. Um... Isn't Beck a Moron.. I mean Mormon...

:shrug:

[guitar man]

26. Haha!! they're starting to go at each other!!

I for one am going to sit back and watch the show :popcorn:

[Edweird]

27. The enemy of my enemy and all that.

[cliffordu]

29. ".....Can't stop the crazy, Mal....."

(WIth apologies to Mr. Universe)

[JoeyT]

31. I'm guessing this guy is one of those people that think

only getting 2 sauce packets at Arby's instead of the 3 he wanted is a sign of the anti-Christ.

Seriously, everyone in the South has a relative like this. A cloud messes up the satellite reception on their TV and they become absolutely convinced Satan's out there shaking the pole.