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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:24 PM
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I told you so on Feb. 18th in the Environmental Forum (check the replies on reactor safety concerns)
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 08:37 PM by Omaha Steve

Edit to add a few of the replies at the bottom.

There is no joy in being right on this. The only hair to split is today was Japan, not the US. But when a back up generator fails in Japan, the cloud comes at us just the same.


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4 Exactly,

It's ridiculous to talk about safety risks while ignoring the people who die every year from other forms of power directly (natural gas explosions, etc)... and particularly ridiculous to ignore the millions upon millions who die earlier than they should because of polution pumped out by these dirty plants.

Getting power to hundreds of millions of people necessarily involves some safety risk (yes... including solar/wind/hydro). There isn't any way to avoid that.

Nuclear has a far safer track record than coal. Yes... including Chernobyl.


7. But nuclear plants put out all that radioactive waste

while coal plants emit kittens and unicorn breathe . . . .and even more radioactive waste than nuclear plants:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=coal-a...


10. Fear of radioactivity is hyped

To sum up: you're in more radioactive danger from eating a banana than eating the silt - not from the Connecticut river - but from the leak site itself.
=====================================================

Correct. This is another example of baseless scare tactic being used against nuclear power.

How many here enjoy alcoholic beverages? Did you know that your alcohol must be
radioactive by law or it can't be sold in the USA? If your alcohol comes from recently
grown living matter, then it is radioactive. The only way for your alcoholic beverage not to
be radioactive is if the alcohol came from petroleum provided by the oil companies.

Go to Amazon.com and look up the book "The Instant Physicist" by Professor Richard A Muller of
the University of California-Berkeley Physics department. Click on the image of the book
on the Amazon site. Amazon provides what they call a "look inside". Go to page 12 ( the
page numbers are at the bottom ) and start reading.

Then I would suggest buying the book. Of course, the anti-nukes are going to be too
apoplectic to do anything when they read what the good Professor has to say.


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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:31 PM
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1. Yesterday we were only worried about encroaching fascism.
And mere economic extinction.
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BobbyBoring Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:31 PM
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2. I found long ago that being right isn't that great
I told friends that if Bush was elected in 2000, we would be at war with someone with in a year. being right that time really sucked not only for me, but for the hundreds of thousands that have died.

It's getting pretty easy to predict things now though
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:33 PM
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3. And the whole world is downwind from this.
Oh goody.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:38 PM
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4. Ghouls.
It's shameful.

This was a huge earthquake and a huge tsunami. Thousands of people are dead.

But you are hoping it gets worse so you can say "I told you so?"

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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 08:44 PM
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5. FIVE reactors in a state of emergency, TWO with no cooling, nuclear fog can get worse?
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 08:46 PM by Omaha Steve


How do you read into this I want it worse?

I'm saying what has already happened is bad enough. I hope it isn't as bad as they think.

I also hope DUers will now use the link at the top to demand a review in the USA: http://www.beyondnuclear.org/actnow /

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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:59 PM
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7. youve never cared.
so your the ghoul.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 10:56 PM
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6. Nobody likes an 'I told you so'.
Guess that makes me a 'nobody'. :D



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