Casandia
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Mon Mar-14-11 11:15 AM
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Michigan's Governor worse than Scott Walker |
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Please support the effort to stop the emergency bill that would strip elected officials, mayors, school boards, and unions!
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Mon Mar-14-11 11:17 AM
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1. Yes, what they are doing in Michigan is much worse .... |
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I hope the people of Michigan wake up and begin to fight the way WI has before they lose all of their schools and towns to privitization and the inevitable looting that accompanies it.
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Mon Mar-14-11 11:20 AM
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2. Is it time for us in MI to start a "Recall Rick" campaign? n/t |
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Mon Mar-14-11 11:22 AM
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3. They both traitors to the people of the United States |
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but I agree, the bill in Michigan will do far more damage and it will be far harder to get rid of it.
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Mon Mar-14-11 11:22 AM
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4. I just can't see how a unelected 'manager' can unseat duly elected gov't officials. |
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Where is the 'no taxation without representation' crowd?
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Mon Mar-14-11 11:30 AM
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6. Before an Enabling Act, no you wouldn't, after the Enabling Act |
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Well, this ain't yer grandfathers Oldsmobile, ehr...democracy anymore.
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Mon Mar-14-11 11:27 AM
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Edited on Mon Mar-14-11 11:31 AM by LiberalAndProud
The legislation has passed the House and the Senate and has been returned to the House for tweaking. I think our best bet will be in the courts, because how can this possibly be legal? It institutionalizes Company Towns in Michigan.
I predict a continued exodus from the state. RIP, Michigan.
Edit to add:
Welcome to DU, Casandia!
:hi: and :hug:
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Mon Mar-14-11 11:32 AM
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7. Welcome to the Feudal State of Michigan. |
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If your city goes bankrupt, it ALL belongs to THEM, and they'll sell everything, even the things that ARE nailed down.
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Mon Mar-14-11 11:37 AM
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Mon Mar-14-11 11:47 AM
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get out and vote you get Governor Rick Snyder. He told them exactly what he was going to do. Operate our state just like business. what is the republican motto, capitalism. Free market. Limited government. de-regulations. And the suppression of wages with no regards to human suffering. When not voting, its like voting for the other candidate to win!!!!!!And the first order of business would be to have an organized effort. which until it happens to the majority of the people they will be submissive to the master.
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Casandia
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Mon Mar-14-11 12:08 PM
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10. From the Michigan constitution |
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Article IX, Sec. 24 of the Michigan Constitution :
The accrued financial benefits of each pension plan and retirement system of the state and its political subdivisions shall be a contractual obligation thereof which shall not be diminished or impaired thereby.
So - guess we should "lawyer up"!
I was in Lansing this past Saturday, and very disappointed at the small number of protestors. I will be there again tomorrow and Wednesday. Hopefully, the numbers will increase.
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Mon Mar-14-11 12:28 PM
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11. Are the citizens in Michigan as disengaged as those in my state? |
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If you try to have a conversation here about what is happening, the concerted effort to disenfranchise working people, they shrug it off -- "What can I do about it? I don't want to talk about it," etc.
The political spectrum is foreign, abstract and in everyday conversation, nonexistent.
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Casandia
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Mon Mar-14-11 02:06 PM
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13. Where are you? New to... |
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DU, still learning to maneuver around. And "yes" to your question. I feel like I am the only one around me who sees what's happening. Sadly, Snyder will act - probably claim Detroit/Flint schools are in need of "reform", take these school districts and cities over, and then it will be too late.
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Mon Mar-14-11 02:16 PM
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14. I am in the very red state of Nebraska. |
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There is a sense here that if we are powerless to change it, why pay attention to it? Powerlessness is the cause of much of our malaise, I am convinced. And I honestly don't know what tools are available to us to change that. Also, around here there a many many many dittoheads. I think when it means we can no longer put food on our families* we will disengage from the propaganda and reengage in the process. That may be too late, but I suspect it will be an explosion.
*Props to GWB** ** appointed not elected
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Mon Mar-14-11 12:48 PM
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Mon Mar-14-11 02:17 PM
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15. Rick Snyder outsourced thousans of jobs at Gateway computer. |
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The guy wants to lower corporate state taxes by 86-percent.
His treasurer is the Democratic big-wig who lost the primary, who's already crafted the cuts for public education, etc.
They rolled through a bill that gives them the power to dissolve municipal governments, departments, boards, whatever they want.
And because the GOP controls the legislature, it's all pretty much a done deal.
Life in GOP-land is just grand.
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Mon Mar-14-11 02:23 PM
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16. Except it won't survive a constitutional challenge |
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Every fucking Rethuglican law they sign this year needs scrutiny and constitutional challenge.
They will lose EVERY fucking time.
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