Taverner
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Tue Mar-22-11 01:10 PM
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Why I disagree with the NFZ over Libya and bombing the shit out of them |
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Bombing is a very imprecise skill. We dropped more bombs over Vietnam than we did during WWII. It seems ever since Vietnam, we've used bombing as our calling card. Predator drones, Fighter Jets, etc - we have done as much as we can to remove the killer from the killed. That way, no emotional guilt, no feeling as if they did anything other than press a red button.
Flash to today - we are going to kill many more innocent civilians than we will kill of the "bad guys." That's the rules with aerial bombing: everyone dies. Somehow we as a nation are OK with that.
Back during the end of the First Bush, and during the Clinton admin, we bombed the shit out of Iraq. No one reported on it because it was such a removed thing. But ask any Iraqi and they'll point out that we bombed them DAILY. What good did that do? Sadaam was still dictator, people still died. We imposed sanctions on them, which meant Baath party officials had access to medicine, food, etc while the average Iraqi didn't. Many died - and that blood is on our hands.
Now - don't get me wrong - I do not like or support Quadaffi. He's the dictator's dictator, and so full of delusions of grandeur, I wouldn't be surprised if his own Generals took him out.
But bombing the shit out of Libya will do nothing, except kill a large amount of innocent people.
If we really wanted to help, why not give the rebels guns? Granted, this usually turns out to be a deal with the devil because we did the same thing in Afghanistan in the 80s, and we all know what happened there.
But any time a country meddles in another countries' civil war, you have to make concessions with ethics and morality.
Which is why I think its best we stop bombing the shit out Libya
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Tue Mar-22-11 01:12 PM
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1. "Bombing the shit out of them" - Hyperbole, anyone? |
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Tue Mar-22-11 01:13 PM
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2. no - I think that's a pretty accurate statement |
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But hey, Mister Gung Ho GI Joe, you go right ahead and not argue against my logic and go after tiny straw men instead
Hoo-Rah!
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Tue Mar-22-11 01:15 PM
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3. Hey, why don't we call them "Freedom Clusters"? |
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Because we all know if we give it a euphemism, no innocents die
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Tue Mar-22-11 01:17 PM
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Tue Mar-22-11 01:31 PM
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5. Arm the opposition? So months of skirmishing and streetfighting... |
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..is preferable to a short bombing campaign?
How many civilians were killed in Beirut during that long civil conflict? How about Sarajevo?
At least you got the blowback problem.
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Tue Mar-22-11 01:35 PM
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6. I don't really think that's a good idea either, but it makes more sense than bombing them |
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Tue Mar-22-11 01:36 PM
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7. Aren't they just bombing military areas to |
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cripple them? I mean is the shit really getting bombed out of Libya or just specific targets? It's kind of hard to tell right now with all kinds of reports coming out. I'm not disagreeing with you entirely, but there's things that aren't being said. For instance the idea that meddling in another country's civil war always ends badly. If the France hadn't helped us during the Revolutionary war, wouldn't we all still be English?
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Tue Mar-22-11 03:55 PM
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8. Bombing is imprecise, which raises problems -- as it did in Kosovo. |
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But it IS essential in the current case in Libya -- as it was in Kosovo.
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