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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 11:55 AM
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Only 14, Bangladeshi girl charged with adultery was lashed to death
Source: cnn

Shariatpur, Bangladesh (CNN) -- Hena Akhter's last words to her mother proclaimed her innocence. But it was too late to save the 14-year-old girl.

Her fellow villagers in Bangladesh's Shariatpur district had already passed harsh judgment on her. Guilty, they said, of having an affair with a married man. The imam from the local mosque ordered the fatwa, or religious ruling, and the punishment: 101 lashes delivered swiftly, deliberately in public.

Hena dropped after 70.

Bloodied and bruised, she was taken to hospital, where she died a week later.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/29/bangladesh.lashing.death/index.html?on.cnn=1



please go to the link and read the full article.

there is much work still to be done.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 11:58 AM
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1. Oh, dear god!
:cry:
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 12:13 PM
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2. Not to sound uncivilized, but really...
I have the strongest impulse right now to slowly flay that imam to death.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 12:14 PM
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3. Religion is a nasty mind tool! nt.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 12:17 PM
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7. not to mention the girl's rapist pig cousin, his wife
and others.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 02:44 PM
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24. Actually, if every person who knew and could have objected but didn't caught a bullet...
...I don't think I'd lose a minute's sleep over it.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 01:10 PM
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14. I know a place (village)
here the radioactive crap from Japan can be dropped and NOTHING will be lost of any value at all, no real human beings present, just vile monsters. I know that won't go over well with the ubber-tolerant, cultural-equality crowd, but I don't really care. It's uncivilized to turn a blind eye to the torture death of a child anywhere in the world.

Unfortunately the politically correct thing to do is to turn that blind eye early and often when a child's life is ended or destroyed under the guize of "religion".
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 12:15 PM
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4. I hate this.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 12:16 PM
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5. Similar things will eventually happen here if the theocrats are not stopped in their tracks
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 12:18 PM
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8. why is it that any time a story like this is posted
this idiot refrain appears? It's highly unlikely to happen here for a host of historical reasons.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 12:50 PM
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9. Because those with a particular agenda are blind to historical reality

They want to use this as a representative of "Islam" instead of representative of a backwards rural culture that has existed with its primitive practices for millennia.

It turns out that backwards cultures are backwards cultures, and whatever the prevailing religion is in these places is not what is driving these practices. Of course these things are treated as if they are derived from the religion, the same way that American Christians think that the Constitution and our legal system is somehow derived from the Bible.

There are cultures which do hideous things, regardless of the prevailing religion, including official "atheist" ones such as the former Soviet Union. That is, of course, a game that everyone can and does play. But the Soviet Union is no more representative of "atheism" than the practices of this primitive village are of "Islam".
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 01:02 PM
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11. Thank you
This episode is driven by misogyny dressed up in religious garb. This makes it palatable to folks who can be gulled, and lays a patina of legitimacy to odious attitudes and practices. The attitudes and practices are repugnant in and of themselves, so they must be dressed up in pleasing garments to grasp for a measure of acceptability.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 01:13 PM
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16. The Problem With That Line, Sir, Is That Religiousity Of This Sort Tends To Foster Backwardness
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 01:31 PM
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21. Religiosity of various sorts fosters various things

I'm unclear on what you mean by "of this sort".

A lot of peace activists are Quakers. Nixon, a Quaker, bombed Cambodia. I am willing to bet that his quest for "peace", consistent with his Quaker beliefs as he always professed, killed more 14 year old girls than this village ever has. Nixon always maintained he acted according to the dictates of his faith, and I take him at his word. Our most prominent Quaker president demonstrated what Quakers do when given power.

Just as with the apparent Roman Catholic sacrament of pedophilia, the fact that religion is used as an excuse for an abhorrent thing does not make religion a cause of that thing. All sorts of cultures attribute what are at root cultural practices to their prevailing religion. We recently had the story of a Baptist minister who "counseled" a teenager on the subject of sexual desire by having sex with the teenager. Is that something "fostered by" the religious views of Baptists generally? I think not.

I would suggest that you have it backwards - people justify abhorrent practices by attributing it to their religion. It is the culture which is self perpetuating, independent of any particular religion or any religion at all.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 01:37 PM
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22. Of the Sort, Sir, That Sanctions Whipping A Child To Death In Public, As Sentence Of Law
When people believe that a sacred duty, it is harder for them to see past, and to change the behavior.

The rest of this is not worth engaging, save to mention that your "Roman Catholic sacrament of pedophilia' strikes even this hard old infidel as a noxious slur, but it is best left up in public to demonstrate just how far you are willing to reach in apologetics for whipping an adolescent girl to death in the name of sacred duty.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 02:24 AM
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26. It would be a sacred duty independent of any particular religion there

Hanging a cultural pathology on the hatrack of the prevailing religious flavor is a function of the cultural pathology.

Cart-horse before-putting.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 05:40 AM
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28. When You Address How Religion Entrenches Such Customs, Sir, You Will Be Discussing This
Instead of engaging in a disgusting display of apologetics....
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TheOther95Percent Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 12:56 PM
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10. I disagree
We are not immune from religious fanaticism. This is the latest in a 40 year saga of false abuse/satanic cult cases. The man's conviction was affirmed in 2010.


http://www.religionnewsblog.com/22575/hosanna-church-satanic-cult

In 1994, the five-year report to the National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect, the federal commission, found that a quarter of the 1,079 prosecutors, law enforcement agencies and social workers who responded to a survey had handled a ritualistic or religious-based abuse case.

The report, conducted by professors at the University of California at Davis, also says the case information that came from these agencies shows little concrete evidence to support the ritualistic abuse claims in these cases.

Independent of that study, Debbie Nathan, an investigative journalist and co-author of “Satan’s Silence: Ritual Abuse and the Making of a Modern Witch Hunt,” found something surprising: She examined more than 100 ritual abuse state cases prosecuted from 1982 to 1989.

By the late 1990s, most of these cases fell apart, and most of the people accused of such crimes had been acquitted at trial or had their convictions overturned on appeal, Nathan said. Asked about the Hosanna Church satanic cult case in Louisiana, Nathan said she is “shocked” that prosecutors are still taking satanic ritual abuse cases seriously.




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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 01:10 PM
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13. Historically, Christians invented many of the world's most famous tortures
to use on anyone who wouldn't bow to their will.

They've been less aggressive for the last few centuries because they've been held in check by secular governments (something that is not true in many of the Muslim nations).

There are regular stories of American Christians calling for death of gays.

Christians in America have been connected with the Ugandan attempts to make it a capital crime to be gay.

Christian groups constantly fight against anti-bullying laws.

For a host of reasons, history says you're wrong.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 01:15 PM
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18. I agree, unlikely, but not impossible
and for that reason you have to pay the price of freedom - eternal vigilance
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 01:05 PM
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12. This is scapegoating, and it's done by both religious and secular people.
Human violence is really good at finding excuses to be function...but function it will.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 01:12 PM
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15. Not sure I understand your post.
Scapegoating is blaming someone innocent for a crime committed by others.

Who are you saying is scapegoating?
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 01:17 PM
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19. In anthropology, "scapegoating" is cathartic violence committed by a community
Edited on Wed Mar-30-11 01:19 PM by Critters2
against a (usually innocent) victim. It creates a sense of unity within a human group. In anthropological terms, this is clear and classic scapegoating.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scapegoating
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 12:16 PM
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6. This just kind of takes your breath away, doesn't it?
In a just world the elders would be found guilty of murder and beaten 101 lashes for each year she lived ... or each year they robbed her of.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 01:13 PM
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17. +1
These people are simply evil.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 01:19 PM
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20. Poor child was stalked, tormented -then raped by a pervert relative..and
then SHE gets executed for it. Vile, absolutely vile.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 02:15 PM
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23. To put it lightly
If there were a word or term that could convey the heinousness of this crime against this poor girl I don't know what it would be.

"Vile" doesn't seem a strong enough word but it will have to do for now.

Poor sweet girl :cry:
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CJvR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 02:53 PM
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25. Bury...
...the bearded bastard in an ant hill.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 02:28 AM
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27. Imagine no religion. n/t
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