So who exactly is talking about shutting the gov down while troops were killed Tuesday?

[w8liftinglady]

(Note to my friend Stan- take notes on how YOUR SIDE operates during a time of war)

Which Republicans stated they would shut the government down during a time of war? Any resources?

[Keith Bee]

1. The Usual Suspects

[w8liftinglady]

2. a possible

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-08-06/politics/gingrich.energy_1_oil-drilling-drilling-ban-shutdown-threat?_s=PM:POLITICS
Gingrich: GOP ready to shut government down over drilling


http://thinkprogress.org/2010/04/13/gingrich-shutdown-obama/
Gingrich: If Republicans Shut Down The Government, It Will Be Obama’s Fault

[slackmaster]

3. The government is not going to shut down, no matter what anyone says or why they say it.

Nothing is fucked.

[oxymoron]

4. The Governmnet won't shut down, but what's fucked is

the fact it's because the spineless Democrats capitulated to a few thousand Tea Baggers.

[w8liftinglady]

6. The point is..This is how "REAL AMERICANS" support their troops?- by threatening

to shut the government down?

MULTIPLE examples

[w8liftinglady]

5. Rep. Bachus: Obama might 'force' GOP to shut down government

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/126873-top-republican-obama-might-force-gop-to-shut-down-government

A top House Republican said Monday President Obama might try to force a government shutdown to hurt Republicans.

Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-Ala.), the top GOP member of the influential House Financial Services Committee, said Republicans should be prepared to be "brave" in the face of a shutdown.

[GoCubsGo]

7. That has been the party lie...errr...line for the past week or so.

The current meme is that this is all somehow the President's fault, even though much of the problem is their unwillingness to compromise. It's the old "Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth" thing. It works really well when you have a populace that is grossly ignorant of how their government works.

[w8liftinglady]

8. and it isn't new- from 2010... we were STILL at war,y'know

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42271.html


Republicans like Rep. Lynn Westmoreland (R-Ga.) and Alaska Senate candidate Joe Miller have said recently that Republicans will shut down the government if they can’t agree with Obama on spending bills.

They’ve spoken favorably about former House Speaker Newt Gingrich stalling government operations after disagreeing with then President Bill Clinton about spending in 1995.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42271.html#ixzz1IH2efcjy

[w8liftinglady]

9. And from Liberty Caucus

http://www.rlc.org/2011/03/31/rlc-issues-statement-on-budget-compromise/

Grassroots Republican Caucus Calls for Government Shut Down
Americans Are Tired of Paying for Irresponsible Leadership


WASHINGTON, DC — Speaking for thousands of grassroots activists nationwide, Dave Nalle, Chairman of the Republican Liberty Caucus, advised lawmakers not to compromise on the budget or to expect to be held accountable.

“Republicans who were elected to significantly cut the size of government should listen to the will of the people — or expect to be held accountable in the next election,” said Nalle. “The proposed cuts are too little and too late and further compromise with Democrat politicians who are not serious about downsizing government will betray the results of last November’s elections. If standing up for fiscal responsibility means the government must be shut down, then it is on the heads of the big spenders and let them pay the political price for it. Shut it down!”

Nalle’s statement came in response to the revelation that Republican House Speaker John Boehner is trying to make a back-room deal with moderate Democrats to pass a budget with only $33 billion in cuts for the fiscal year. Chairman Nalle’s outrage was echoed by grassroots leaders of the Republican Liberty Caucus, who conferred to discuss a response to the failure of party leaders and determined to remind their representatives that the Republican grassroots elected them to end the era of out of control spending and dramatically downsize government.

Florida RLC Chairman Matt Nye observed that “spending at every level of government is out of control, but nothing compares to the fiscal insanity we are witnessing in Washington, D.C. This new batch of Republicans was elected to get America’s financial house in order, but to date they have failed utterly and completely. It is hard to understand how such a simple fact of reality – that you cannot consume more than you produce – is so hard for our elected officials to understand and act on when regular Americans do it every day in their own households.”

At-Large RLC Board member William Westmiller of California asked, “Why shouldn’t Republicans support the shutdown all non-essential government services? If the Democrats refuse to cut those marginal services, GOP leaders should be promoting creative solutions like privatization. For example, if the government can’t afford to run national parks, they should be sold to the highest bidder and the receipts applied to reduce the national debt.”

David Williams, Chairman of the Republican Liberty Caucus of North Carolina, said, “Last year North Carolina voters made it clear that they want sweeping budget cuts and a government that lives within its means. The new Republican majority Congressional delegation, the state’s first in over 100 years, will earn the respect and continued support of North Carolina voters if they follow through on their pledge to restore fiscal discipline without tax increases.”

And Michael S. Murphy, Chairman of the Republican Liberty Caucus of Wisconsin, observed that, “The message sent by the American voter was not heard clearly enough by the Republican Congressional leadership. With the exception of a few Liberty Republicans that emerged from the Tea Party Movement, the Republican establishment has proven yet again that they can’t be trusted with responsible budgetary governance. The only way to halt runaway deficit spending is to shut down the government to save our Republic from the irreversible financial abyss it’s about to dive into.”

Concluded Dave Nalle, “Today the National Republican Congressional Committee sent me a fundraising email signed by Speaker Boehner. Why would grassroots GOP donors take a donation request seriously from the ‘leader’ who is about to compromise with the Democrats on a totally unacceptable budget? The House GOP Leadership is making a mockery of the peoples’ call to cut spending.”

“Shut the government down. Come home to your districts for a week or two and hold some town hall meetings. Give us a chance to remind you face to face why we’re so fed up with the way you’re spending our money and ignoring the debt problem,” said Nalle

[w8liftinglady]

10. And their talking points

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/03/30/961566/-GOP-defends-government-shutdown-as-being-a-walk-in-the-park

Rep. Paul Broun, Republican of Georgia, giving voice earlier this morning to the newest GOP argument about a federal shutdown: that shutting down the government wouldn't be a big deal at all.

Broun's argument is that if Congress fails to fund government past April 8, it wouldn't completely shut down—essential functions would remain operational. "Shutting the government down," he said, "is not going to stop the essential services of the federal government."
But while it's true that the Obama administration would almost certainly find a way to make sure Social Security checks go out, if you needed to change your address or bank account information, or sign up for payments, you'd be a out of luck. A wide range of important services—everything from issuing passports to conducting energy research to operating national parks to operating the veterans administration—would be shuttered.

The strange thing about the GOP's new argument is that at the same time that they are arguing that a government shutdown wouldn't be a big deal, they are also arguing that Democrats are trying to engineer a government shutdown to gain a political advantage. For example, just before saying a shutdown would be no big deal, Broun said of Democrats that "their diabolical plan is to shut the government down, blame Republicans, and try to get re-elected." But if Republicans really believe a government shutdown is as good an idea as they say it would be, then why are they accusing Democrats of trying to force once? If that's really what they believed, wouldn't they be trying to take credit instead?

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