Wisconsin teachers: 90 sick days a year?

[PBass]

This seems to be making the rounds on right wing websites...

"Oshkosh teachers were getting 90 sick days per year."

Google that phrase and you will see pages of hits with the same terms (the echo chamber) so we can expect to be hearing it on talk radio, etc.

Somebody please clarify, so that we can respond with correct info. Is that 90 unpaid sick days, without being fired? What are the actual terms re: sick days? Does the Oshkosh school system have their own contracts, or are all teachers contracts the same, state wide? etc.

Need more info please.

[femmocrat]

1. No one gets 90 sick days a year.

Maybe they meant summers off ??? (Although summer break is no longer 90 days.)

[TheDebbieDee]

22. Well, just 2-1/2 years ago, fauxsnooz was saying that UAW

were being compensated $70/hour when all their benefits were included! It was a lie and I knew it when I heard it.

But.............everybody is not as smart as me.

[DesertRat]

2. That's impossible

They must be counting the weekends. :eyes:

[Zynx]

3. That may be the average banked (unused) sick leave time for teachers in the district.

Or the cap that you can get up to. Generally, you accumulate 5 hours or so per pay period. In that instance, I very much doubt their numbers.

[The Wielding Truth]

8. That makes sense.

[leftstreet]

4. I bet these "right wing websites" also say abortion is bad

I'm guessin

[Davis_X_Machina]

5. No on starts with 90. Sick days accumulate if not used...

...and systems generally cap at 90 or 180 days. I have a full 180, but I've been teaching for over 25 years.

Since many schoolteachers don't qualify for SS disability -- I don't -- that's the only cushion we have. It keeps my long-term-disability premiums down (thanks, union!) if the LTD insurance is set up to not kick in until after 180 days.

But I have colleagues who after 20-30 years have less than 30 days accumulated. One illness, they're wiped out.

[proud2BlibKansan]

20. Our cap is 200

We get 12 days a year. So that means you'd have to have perfect attendance for 17 years to max out.

[MichiganVote]

6. In what world does anyone get 90 sick days a year. Get real.

Teachers commonly contract for up to ten sick days per year. Most bank their sick days and give some away each year to an employee who has a severe illness or a terminal illness to provide those days to someone in need of them.

Shhhh...don't tell the Stalinist's, they'll probably introduce a bill to prohibit this charity.

[Davis_X_Machina]

9. Our board is negotiating..

...to end the sick-day bank in this round of talks.

"It encourages malingering."

[MichiganVote]

13. yup. the stalinists arrive,

[SoCalNative]

10. Not a teacher

but when my father retired from the Post Office he had 3 years worth of unused sick leave that he was paid for.

[Davis_X_Machina]

11. There's no universal rule...

...about buy-back at retirement, or at what rate. My dad had a good deal in his district, but I know of others where it has no cash value at all.

[Scruffy1]

12. Let me do the math

13 days sick leave a year x years=260 working days in a year x 3=780 days. So 780 dived by 13=60 years of service without missing a day. Congratulations.
Besides which the ability to collect for unused sick leave does not apply to employees hired since 1982 or so. You can bank them, but anything unused is returned to the postal service upon retirement.

[proud2BlibKansan]

21. We use our unused sick days to buy health insurance when we retire

It's a pretty good deal, actually. We get a portion in cash and then the rest goes into a fund that pays our health insurance until the fund runs out. That can be 3 or 4 years if you have enough days saved.

[wickerwoman]

My parents too.

My dad had better than a years worth of sick leave banked when he got sick and had to take early retirement. For any freepers out there who can't do the math, that's because for the better part of 19 years he never took a single sick day. But clearly, he was a malingerer. :eyes:

A lot of places will also let you donate sick leave, so if a coworker gets sick, you can give them some of your time. I think that's great and should be encouraged. Helps to build team spirit and all that other stuff corporations pay lip service to.

[Rex]

7. Yeah and billionaires shit in sold gold toilets, SO WHAT.

I'd like to hear what school district gives its teachers 90 days. Not here.

[BalancedGoat]

14. Their source.

Analysis of most recent Oshkosh teacher's union contract

Leave: Employees are guaranteed 90 income protection days every year for use as paid sick time and disability leave. They also receive three days paid funeral leave for the deaths of immediate family, up to three days of paid funeral leave for other close relatives subject to permission and one day of paid funeral leave for more distant relatives. Up to three days of paid leave are allowed for the marriage or graduation of an immediate family member. Unlimited emergency leave for serious illness of immediate family members may be granted under permission from the superintendent.

I can't speak to the reliability of the Oshkosh Northwestern. Assuming it's accurate, it is actually 90 paid days a year. A new, tentative agreement would lower it to 10 days a year that could accumulate up to 90.

[Horse with no Name]

17. Sounds an awful lot like FMLA

and most companies have to offer it by federal law.

[Dark]

23. Wait, sick AND disability? Are they normally grouped together?

Sounds like 90 days to be sick or recovering from serious illness accident all grouped together

[MadMaddie]

15. This is just more red meat for the right wing masses..

They know teachers don't get anything like this...it really is amusing that they had no problem with Junior taking 1 complete year of vacation as President.

[w8liftinglady]

16. I'm sure it's much like "Paid-time-off" in my profession

We gain "X" hours per pay period....in a NOn-union state.They accumulate if unused.
I guess that'll be next

[Warpy]

18. Maybe that was the longest they could be out on temporary disability

without having their jobs filled permanently.

No job gives 90 days sick leave except being an ancient Republican Congressman.

[proud2BlibKansan]

19. That's a semester. Half a school year.

It's as ridiculous as the claim that teachers are earning $260K a year. Saw that just yesterday. :eyes:

[JonLP24]

24. Even if true

When I went to school, teachers were almost always there. No teacher that I ever knew had anywhere remotely close to 90 days away from the classroom.

Sorry, don't have correct info.