I bet there's pretty much no one who is a DU regular who will not

[Stinky The Clown]

be voting for the 2012 Democratic nominee, who is almost certainly going to be Barack Obama.

[Nye Bevan]

1. I agree. There's an awful lot of huffing and puffing from some folks

but I'm pretty sure most will end up doing the right thing.

[Armstead]

33. Please don't trivialize it by calling it huffing and puffing.

We would really prefer not to have so many reasons to "huff and puff" as you call it. These things do matter to many of us, even when we do end up voting for him.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. I plan to vote for him.

But as far as donating, or working for him?

Nah.

Not this time.

[madinmaryland]

6. I plan on doing all three. The thought of any of the repukes nominating

another Scalia is enough for me.

[Stinky The Clown]

10. I assume you'll be doing that in PA or Virginia

Our state's likely not in question.

[madinmaryland]

13. I'll be doing what I can, Stinky, considering I do have immediate family in PA. And you?

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[defendandprotect]

4. From the number of OPs on this today, they seem to reflect a lack of confidence ...

[gateley]

5. I will be and I will do what I can to GOTV (although here it's all mail-in, so not

sure what I could do except drive people to the post office to drop off their ballots)

:patriot:

[Greybnk48]

7. I will vote for him, but he is NOT my kind of liberal.

He's just Clinton redux (and I loved Bill C. so much I didn't realize I'd been had until it was a done deal).

[Toucano]

18. Obama makes Clinton look like Eugene V. Debs.

Obama is a Wall Street Liberal, which is to say, he's a jumbo shrimp.

[OswegoAtheist]

8. Oh, there are plenty.

Canadians, Britons, Australians, French....

Oswego "I'll be in Toronto myself" Atheist

[BillyJack]

9. Will my & everyone else's vote ACTUALLY be counted? n/t

[howaboutme]

11. That's exactly why I am now registered "I"

I prefer elected officials who are not convinced that they have my vote in the bag. Average Americans face one major threat.....political Parties that are owned by multi-national corporatists and banksters.

The candidate I vote for will need to display loyalty to the American people, not the international corporations.

The previous poster is correct. Will any of our corporate controlled voting machines record our vote?

[demwing]

12. Yep, in the GE, I'll vote Dem

but if there's a pimary challenge ...no promises on how I'll vote

[PurityOfEssence]

14. Yes, like a battered spouse, we pretty much know we have nowhere else to go.

I know, Doctor, but...even so, I...I know he loves me...

[Rex]

15. Everyone that is here for honest debate and not a paid\unpaid troll.

There is no one else to vote for, and voting for a Repuke is a horrifying thought. Ugh. No thanks. I stated I would vote for a door knob for POTUS before I would vote for the GOP hellspawn next up on the list.

[JI7]

16. i'm pretty sure there are some who will not vote for him and didn't vote for him in 2008 either

[hulka38]

17. I don't get that feeling at all.

[mmonk]

19. I'm going to concentrate on local elections.

I plan on being an activist on social justice isssues and helping the poor. I no longer really believe the national party structure is enough to change America back away from Reaganomics and imperialism and globalization. I will only vote for like minded people. The current way no longer works. I will be active in groups that push for real change. Change is not coming through the ballot box nationally, especially from the Senate and the executive branches of government.

[Hawkowl]

22. Well said!

That is exactly what I plan on doing! Could care less about voting for President of the United Corporations of America.

[Raine]

36. Exactly

I feel the same way and will do just that. :thumbsup:

[emilyg]

20. There are many regular DU'ers who have had it.

[Safetykitten]

21. I have, but will still vote for him, but he will loose anyway.

[joshcryer]

37. What will he loose?

[Old Codger]

23. No matter what

He will most likely be the dem candidate it will give me a lot of free time, I won't need to listen to any of the crap both side throw out during the campaign. I don't care who the rethug candidate is I would not vote for any of them for starters, they lie anyway, and obama will say all the same stuff he has been saying all along and that also means very little.. they are all politicians and their main job is to get re-elected as many times as possible, any good they may happen to cause along the way is just that, happenstance.

[davidthegnome]

24. If he's the nominee...

then yes, I'll swallow my pride and extreme disappointment and vote for him. Yes, he's almost certainly going to be the nominee, but this isn't a cause for any joy or faith for me. He's better than a republican would be... but not by much, in my opinion.

The way things stand now though, I'm almost definitely not going to be voting for him in the primaries. He has some time to change my mind - and he could do so very easily by demonstrating a willingness to be honest with the American people. I don't think he's done that, for the most part. Give me some truth, Mr. President... what the hell is Immelt doing as the head of a jobs program? Why aren't you talking about coming down hard on these corporations that pay no taxes? While at the same time, you're giving in to tens of billions of dollars in cuts to social programs?

I'm not unreasonable, but I, like many on the left, am awaiting an explanation... or at the very least, some honesty.


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[davidthegnome]

28. I've considered that myself

The more I consider it though, the more I think it wouldn't matter. We'll have two major candidates that receive enormous funding and media coverage - with a third party candidate perhaps getting a small portion of the vote. I could resort to a write in campaign... and probably would if I followed my principles completely in this case. I just don't think it's realistic though, for me to expect I could accomplish anything by it. It would be a vote that could otherwise... well, support someone better than a republican being cast in the name of principle.

Principle is important to me, but as angry as I am with this administration, the idea of a Republican President worries me a lot more than the thought of another term for Obama. In a choice between evils, ultimately I'll go with what I feel the lesser of the two. That said...I still have some small hope that we'll get a progressive challenger that may even have a chance at winning the nomination. I don't think it's likely, but I'm hoping for it. In the primaries, I'll go with who ever I feel is the strongest progressive, anti-corporate candidate on the left. If it comes down to Obama winning the nomination though, I could not in good conscience not vote for him, no matter how disappointed or pissed off I am.

I think the game is rigged - and that makes me sick. But until we can clean it up and fix it, I don't know what choice I've got.

[me b zola]

29. You see,,you do have a choice

And if more people would stand up for their own desires then things would be better. My opinion, of course. But I will no longer silence my voice for those who say they are on my side but are not.

[lumberjack_jeff]

26. Of course they take us for granted. nt

[inna]

27. ridiculous. can't help but unrec.

[autorank]

30. ... or two. k*r

[Liberal_in_LA]

31. Yep! +1000

[Unrepentant Fenian]

32. I just hope that Hillary runs in 2016 ! n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

34. I have the archaic belief that my vote belongs to me to cast as I choose.

It's available to the candidate that convinces me to vote for him/her and is not owed to anyone.

[Raine]

38. Exactly it belongs to me, not to the party

I happen to be registered in. I'm thru with giving it away so cheap, anyone who expects it better earn it. If I'm not given a reason to get out and vote, I won't get out and vote, I'll sit it out.

[sabrina 1]

39. Lol, I was just thinking that. I intend to focus on Congress.

It doesn't matter who is in the WH as far as major policies go. We live under a system and the president doesn't seem to have much power. He does what the corporate bosses tell him to do as far as I can tell. I'm beyond being disappointed.

If we had a truly strong, progressive Congress, it would not matter what the WH did or said.

I think it was a mistake to be so distracted by the presidential race last time. There were many good progressives who needed the help and didn't get it. So this time, that is where my efforts will be. Too much time and money wasted on the presidency and it got us next to nothing.

[emilyg]

40. Yep.

[Chris_Texas]

35. Don't count on it.

At this point, unless the GOP candidate is a social conservative, I see no reason not to vote third party.

[jaxx]

41. I'll be voting for President Barack Obama.

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[Paradoxical]

43. That does not mean I have to support some bullshit status quo.

I'll vote Democrat. That, however, does not mean I will be voting for Barack Obama.

Sorry, candidates EARN my vote. It is not given out for free.

[jaxx]

44. You can do what you want.

However working against the sitting Democratic President doesn't seem to be productive. The rules do state about supporting the Democratic candidate.

[Paradoxical]

45. Is that suppose to scare me or something?

Like, since you posted the "rules" I'm suppose to fall in line?

Yeah, no thank you. This is what separates us from the opposition. Independent thought. Critical thinking skills.


Being a Democrat is more than just voting for the chosen candidate. It's about believing in a certain set of progressive principals. That transcends the support of any single politician.

[jaxx]

46. I don't have the power to scare you.

Rules are rules. I know all about being a Democrat, I first voted in 1968, the first year I was old enough to do so. As a Democrat I vote for the Democratic candidate. My personal principles are mostly met by such candidate, if not on a couple, I can live with that.

[Paradoxical]

47. Maybe it's time for us new and "unfaithful" Democrats to get shit done?

Hi, my names Paradoxical. I first voted in an election during the 2008 primary and voted again during the 2008 general election.

If you support the corrupt system, I'm not going to support you. I already made the mistake of buying into political nonsense in 2008. I'm not going to be so easily had in 2012.

President Obama wants my vote? He better support progressive principals and actively work to guide our political system towards justice, equality and peace.

[jaxx]

48. Maybe, maybe not.

But then President Obama is going to file soon so the campaign will be on. Interesting times, vital to the growth of the USA. I look at the SCOTUS and the House and Senate and the Oval Office and know that it's imperative to keep the majority in the senate and win back the house, now more than ever. With the teabaggers trying to rewrite the Constitution, destroy programs for the people, and picking legal abortion to pieces I'll do everything I can to keep that from happening.

[Paradoxical]

49. Anyway you try to slice it, I see turbulent times ahead.

People are tired of the same old bullshit. I mean, they really are getting tired. I'm not tired. I've only just begun. And I'm exceptionally pissed off.

My peers and I are quickly becoming the base for the Democratic party. Like I said, we are not going to play the same little games that have been leading this country down the toilet for the last half a century.

We are not happy. And we are going to fix that. If you don't want to lead, at least have the courtesy to get out of the way.

[jaxx]

50. Well good luck on that.

I'm not getting out of anyone's way.

[Paradoxical]

51. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

[Bluebear]

52. Oh, didn't know you were a mod. Congrats.

[jaxx]

54. :-)

[Paradoxical]

42. Paradoxical for president 2012.

[dipsydoodle]

53. Would be illegal

[saras]

55. Depends on how close the election is

If I *HAVE* to vote for Obama, I will.

If it looks like I can get away with it, I'll vote for whoever articulates the clearest, strongest, anticorporate message, regardless of their chances of winning.

But I will certainly be voting for my preferred candidate for every office, on the federal, state, and local level.