Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Isn't submitting ALEC bills in the Legislatures the same as buying term papers?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 09:14 AM
Original message
Isn't submitting ALEC bills in the Legislatures the same as buying term papers?
just askin.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 09:18 AM
Response to Original message
1. Let's get rid of the middleman and
Edited on Sun Apr-03-11 09:21 AM by Autumn
just pay ALEC to write all the bills in the Legislature. Save some money paying for these elected officials salaries and their perks.



Edited to add :sarcasm: if needed
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 09:41 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Why not just fire the legislature
& contract with ALEC for legislation. The ultimate privatizing move.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 09:51 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. Agreed....FIRE CONGRESS ...... outsource legislation all we need
Edited on Sun Apr-03-11 09:52 AM by Tippy
a presidential signature.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 09:55 AM
Response to Original message
4. no because ALEC pays YOU to do it, and you have to pay for phony term papers nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. Chuckle n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 04:16 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. That makes it a clear case of taking bribes
and giving them something definitely in exchange for their money. :grr:

How an anyone pretend that it is legal?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
iemitsu Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 11:50 AM
Response to Original message
5. states need to pass laws that require
their legislatures to actually research and assess the impact (on all the state's citizens and the state's environment) of each bill they consider. and they should be required to consult independent experts (not lobbyists)to help them understand the social and economic ramifications of their actions.
politicians are just people and rarely have the expertise on their own to make good decisions.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 04:18 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. That would be nice. I'm sure a lot of independent experts would be
happy to provide some free consulting services to state governments in order to ensure that the pubic good gets accomplished.

That would be a far, far better option than having hired corporate shills writing legislation and bribing reps to get it introduced and passed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
iemitsu Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. it may not fix things in governemnt
but it would go a long way to serving the needs of the public.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hector Solon Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 04:37 PM
Response to Original message
9. Same tools could be used to investigate...
... this whole ALEC mess.

Have been trying to sell the idea of using the same type software that Universities and professors use to fight plagiarism to fight ALEC.

Load any know models and verified bills (all State whatever can be found) that have ALEC content, THEN load new bills and other content to run comparison. this SW gives you normally a XX% match.

This is required in at lot of schools, now. There are a couple of on-line services (SaaS) solutions for this as well.

No takers so far, but still calling and talking. Don't care who does it, but this would give a BIG BANG to exposure - particularly going back in historical documents, so pervasive.

Just suggesting... : - )
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. Sounds like a very good idea to me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 08:24 PM
Response to Original message
12. It's Dittomocracy; emphasis on the third syllable...
Freshly coined...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 03:45 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC