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leftygolfer Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 01:37 PM
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Seriously? Average starting salary for college grads?
I can't be reading this right. I've been working 27 years, on a good year I make half of this! I guess it's just a case of if you're rich enough to go to college, you just start out way ahead of everyone else.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/10/pf/college_graduates_salaries/index.htm

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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 01:40 PM
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1. That is the point of going to college so
that you make more then people who didn't go to college. That has always been the point and always will be, and for the kind of work that it takes to graduate from college, depending on your career choice of course, you should make more money.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 01:42 PM
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2. I don't give this report much credence I think MOST new college grads are not able to find jobs at
at all. What do you thing the average salary of ALL new grads is?
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 01:55 PM
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13. Depends on the field, depends on the major
a whole generation engineers and scientist are retiring - very good fields to be in.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 02:31 PM
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18. And their jobs are being shipped to China Nepal and India. Follow the corporate PROFITS
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 02:35 PM
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19. Not around here
we are hiring like crazy.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 02:37 PM
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20. Please post a link
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 03:22 PM
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25. What - to my company?
perhaps I don't want to give away private information like that. What's the big deal - you really don't think that there are some regions and some industries that are doing well? With 90 percent employment it is not all gloom and doom.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 03:28 PM
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26. If you believe we have 90 percent employment in this country I do not trust ANY of your opinions
I believe that when you count the under and long term unemployed the REL unemployment rate is closer to 16-20%.
That says NOTHING about the stagnant wages and inequality of our economic system.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 03:33 PM
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28. I take it times have been tough for you?
perhaps your perspective has been warped by your personal circumstances? All I know is that my company is hiring and has plenty of work.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 03:50 PM
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29. 90% employment?
Edited on Sun Apr-03-11 03:53 PM by lumberjack_jeff
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/01/been-down-so-long/



The employment to population ratio is down 12% since 2000. If there were jobs to be had, employment would be 20% higher.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 04:12 PM
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30. You are not paying attention
the recession did not impact every sector of the economy and every region the same way. Construction and manufacturing jobs were clobbered - I get it. It doesn't mean that it is uniformly bad every place.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 02:11 PM
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14. Correct.
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iemitsu Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 01:42 PM
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3. well, i went to college, have several degrees
and barely make more than that after 20 years in my profession.
i remember when i thought that i would be rich if i made $20,000 in a year. i wasn't when i did.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 02:15 PM
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16. I remember that. I actually told my boss in 1980 that I would be happy when I made 20k
I peaked in 2001 with 60k. Last year, I earned 7k. Sad, aint it?
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iemitsu Donating Member (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 03:13 PM
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24. yes, it is sad.
i assume i will be taking that sort of hit soon too.
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Godhumor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 01:43 PM
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4. Depending on the work and geographic location, that sounds reasonable as an average
Supply and demand all over again.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 01:44 PM
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5. what they don't mention is grads likely have twice that in loans. n/t
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 02:12 PM
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15. +1 Exactly
And they'll be paying those off for twenty years (mostly interest) unable to purchase a home.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 01:45 PM
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6. I understand your frustration, and I suspect your experience
isn't counting enough in the minds of your employer and supervisor.

These are decent starting salaries. I didn't know anyone was hiring business graduates outside of accounting.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 01:47 PM
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7. a BIG piece of that salary goes towards student loans
Debt for a degree maybe equals what a mortgage would have been 27 years ago

Also the high salaries quoted are for engineering degrees which are very tough - you have to have a lot of mathematical aptitude and really work hard for a degree in that field
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 01:47 PM
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8. I currently make $35k/year
Edited on Sun Apr-03-11 02:03 PM by tammywammy
When I get my bachelor's degree next year, I will receive a significant bump in pay (at least $5k). I'm going straight into a Masters program, and that will mean my salary should be at minimum $50k in about 3 years. That's strictly based on the pay scales for the jobs I will be moving into at my current employer, and $50k with a Masters is the bottom of the pay scale.


Edited to add: I'm not rich. I'll have taken out $36k in loans for my bachelors and my company will pay for the Masters.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 01:47 PM
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9. most people who go to college aren't rich
i sure wasn't.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 01:49 PM
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10. Note the main part of the article is about business and engineering grads
The average liberal arts grad earns an average of $35,633. And remember that averages are very deceiving. If 100 Harvard liberal arts grads go to Goldman Sachs and earn $150K, you can imagine that the "average" $35K means that a lot of college grads are earning practically zilch.

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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 01:52 PM
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11. I was in college 27 years ago and I wasn't rich
Edited on Sun Apr-03-11 01:53 PM by FLPanhandle
No money from mom/dad, I worked a full time job as a bartender, a part time job at the University Museum, and had a few small student loans.

Back then it was possible, if you were willing to bust your ass, to work your own way through college. It wasn't easy though. In the long run it paid off (nicely).

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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 01:54 PM
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12. Someone needs to run the math again:
"While the association's survey didn't break out starting salaries for individual liberal arts majors, offers were up a whopping 9.5% to $35,633 for the group as a whole. That compares to a steep drop of 11% last year."

Doesn't that means it's still down 1.5% from two years ago?

And being $80,000 in debt doesn't start you way out ahead of anyone, assuming you can find a job in the first place.
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 02:15 PM
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17. Longer it takes to find a job
The further behind they get on repaying the loans too. I have friends who are in so far over their head they will never buy a home and will wait a long time before starting a family. 50,000? Not much if one lives in a mojor city either.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 02:41 PM
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21. it is about Engineering , Accounting and Finance Graduates , not all grads
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 03:01 PM
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22. i'm sure there are a good number of grads to whom that would be news.
it all depends on what your degree is.

and isn't that the point? -- besides they'll have a heavy burden of debt -- or some of them will.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 03:11 PM
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23. "Do you want fries with that order?"
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 03:31 PM
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27. And this just in: association of colleges reports that a degree will cure halitosis
News at 11.

It's reasonable to question the motives behind the study, and therefore the methodology. I.E. how many graduates make zero?
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