Hey . . . . Ryan . . . . . which is cheaper? Mowing your own lawn or paying someone to mow it?

[Stinky The Clown]

Its kinda like your social security wet dream of having the feds pay us so we can buy private insurance. Why not just keep the feds AS the insurance?

Fuck you, VooDooEconBoy.

[DrDan]

1. different pay strategy

- Insurance companies - deny as many claims as possible. Deny more claim $$$$ than insurance company profit/overhead and the plan saves taxpayer money

- as compared to Gov't Managed - pay for treatment received


That is how Ryan's plan will save money. Screw the seniors out of medical care.

[Keith Bee]

2. Now now, don't be straining poor Paul's brain with questions

Ryan = :dunce:

[brewens]

3. What's better, a bureaucracy that's mission is to maximize profit

by denying medical care, or one that provides medical care? Trashing medicare may be the best move they could make, to finally force people to go along with a single payer government plan.
Look at how many people that were getting close to qualifying for medicare, that were totally against health care reform. The "almost got theirs", combine with the "I got mine" crowd, that didn't give a shit about everyone else.
Now we'll have a lot more middle aged people that know they are going to be screwed. I'm 50, and there is probably no way I will be able to afford hundreds of dollars in medical insurance payments when I retire. Even if I could I wouldn't want to.
I was working a blood drive at a medical insurance company yesterday. I overheard some employees talking about having to take a stress test and stress management training, to lower their premiums. I wanted to say, "how about just lowering the premiums to reduce stress, and save all the money on the training?" I'll leave that one to Dilbert.

[hfojvt]

4. it's cheaper to use slave labor

just ask my dad

[emulatorloo]

5. Has the CBO run the numbers on this nonsense yet?

[Lefta Dissenter]

6. the same question could be asked

of Scott Walker about the state-owned heating plants that he wants to sell
.
..
...
.... NO BID
...... so we have to buy heat for those state buildings
........ and this includes the plant in Madison for which he stopped the conversion to bio-fuel that was already underway
.......... so we continue to be reliant on coal and natural gas instead of Wisconsin farm- and forest-produced fuels
........ because, of course, WHAT does Koch Industries do in Wisconsin?
...... Coal and pipelines
.... so it's only right that they should be able to buy our heating plants at whatever price they want
... and we'll have to pay whatever they ask to heat our State buildings
.. we're giving our lawnmowers to Scott Walker's sugar daddies
. and paying them to mow our lawns