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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:39 AM Original message |
The base and the party--some bizarre thinking that has been making the rounds. |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. Thank you. K&R nt |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
2. A thoughtful piece - thanks jp |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
3. kr |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
4. K&R |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
5. Why do you hate America? |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
6. Well said! |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
7. Because Party Insiders don't want to Take Responsibility |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:51 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. They are responsible - they're responsible to the corporations that pay to elect them, and hire them |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 06:49 AM Response to Reply #7 |
76. Some would rather lose election rather than allow progressives a seat at the table |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
8. Things have to change, and change soon for us to maintain any resemblence |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
10. You have some good points. But a couple questions |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:00 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. I'm speaking to the party as a whole |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:38 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Well lets unpack that a little |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. No major disagreement here |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 03:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Big Picture: I imagine almost every DU'er could muster enthusiasm about taking back the House |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Thanks for discussing your thoughts with me |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Thanks right back at you. . . |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 11:09 PM Response to Reply #34 |
60. I would be enthusiastic for the Dems taking back the House IF |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
45. So in your opinion if I were to support a Primary challenge against an incumbent or Obama himself |
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tpsbmam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:07 AM Response to Reply #19 |
66. He *completely* disparaged progressives and this is when I got so pissed off... |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 01:42 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Don't you know, we are supposed to swallow our anger, so says Obama. n/t |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:10 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Not speaking for the OP, but as to your first question |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. THNKS for the link, I will read it n/t |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
11. k&r n/t |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
12. Recommend!!! n/t |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
13. ... |
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davidthegnome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
15. K & R |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
17. Lunatic fringe who were never needed anyway.... |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:51 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. They're around. They just changed their tune. n/t |
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cilla4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
18. Thank you articulating my longtime philosophy - |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
21. K&R n/t |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
22. I would argue that the pary did take a stand on the Bush tax cuts |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 11:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
61. If your candidate doesn't have money, you have to BADGER the media |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
25. "80+% of the nation supports higher taxes for the rich" |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Do you believe the figure of 80+% of liberals supporting Obama is equally meaningless? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. How is that equivalent? |
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libmom74 (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 03:08 AM Response to Reply #30 |
72. excellent point! |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
26. K & R |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
27. Blaming the Voters for a Failure of Leadership... |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
28. Wise words, jpgray. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
29. Excellent post jpgray |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
31. If I could rec this 100 times I would. |
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TriMera (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
32. K&R. n/t |
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crickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
35. K&R |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
36. K&R |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
37. The flip side is, if support for Democrats wavers back and forth |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:02 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. You know, it's really hard to say what effect one can have strictly at the ballot box |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. "evidence for the effect of consistent support in moving the party left " |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 02:49 AM Response to Reply #37 |
70. 81% of Americans want to tax the rich, 63% out of Afghanistan, etc.. Whoever runs on these will |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 05:48 AM Response to Reply #37 |
74. I think that is BS |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
38. K&R |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
42. "Where else are you going to go?"... |
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Ramulux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
44. Great point and it needs to be repeated |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
46. on "an anemic, aimless, dithering party and its leaders": |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
47. K&R n/t |
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Samantha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
48. Corporations do not want to pay social security taxes, health |
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JohnnyHardhat (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
49. Brilliant! Well said. |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
50. Kick and Rec! |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
51. Brilliant |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
52. kick |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
53. Bo Knows! |
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mochajava666 (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
54. Well said |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
55. Well put.. Worth reading twice. |
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hulka38 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
56. Good post. n/t |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
57. Well done. An excellent, thought provoking post. Thanks n rec'd. nt |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
58. Worth MULTIPLE recommendations, if it was within my grasp. |
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FredStembottom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
59. Homerun! |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
62. I'm not inspired by the |
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pmorlan1 (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
63. K & R |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-06-11 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
64. Except that people were gloating about the bad turnout back in November. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
65. I'm often "uninspired" if not angry, disgusted, frustrated, but I never don't vote. |
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abq e streeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 01:34 AM Response to Original message |
67. Rec # 143; you speak for me , too. |
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Capitalocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
68. Let me also add that if we COULD muster the same activism regardless of policy |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 02:58 AM Response to Original message |
71. K & R |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 05:43 AM Response to Original message |
73. You articulate my views very nicely |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 06:30 AM Response to Original message |
75. Agreed |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
77. K&R |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
78. When people choose not to vote that is capitulation and that's what quitters do. |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
79. kick |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
80. Truth............nt |
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