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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:12 AM
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Liberals weren't the only motivated voters in Supreme Court race
I know JoAnne has a razor thin at the moment** but what this author says is true.




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Liberals weren't the only motivated voters in Supreme Court race

STEVEN ELBOW | The Capital Times | selbow@madison.com madison.com | (40) Comments | Posted: Wednesday, April 6, 2011 7:15 am


buy this photo Justice David Prosser, speaks to supporters at the Seven Seas Restaurant Tuesday April 5, 2011 in Waukesha Wis. as he takes on Assistant Attorney General JoAnne Kloppenburg for the Wisconsin Supreme Court seat. (AP Photo/Darren Hauck) DARREN HAUCK


It was a blistering campaign, lousy with misleading attack ads, innuendo, even vulgarities.

And the attacks, launched mostly by groups unconnected with the campaigns of the actual Supreme Court candidates, worked. They mobilized the vote not only on the side of JoAnne Kloppenburg, who was expected to benefit the most from recent protests at the state Capital, but on the side of incumbent Justice David Prosser.

Charles Franklin, a UW political scientist who specializes in electoral politics, says that if Prosser manages to hang on, "even with a slim margin," it would be a signal that a highly mobilized opposition is "not necessarily fatal to Republicans," whereas a Prosser defeat would be a strong signal that the GOP has "pursued a program that overreaches what their electoral mandate was."

Either way, the fact that conservative voters showed up in droves means it's going to be close.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:14 AM
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1. This is the part that scares me, given how unscrupulous these people are...
"...a Prosser defeat would be a strong signal that the GOP has "pursued a program that overreaches what their electoral mandate was."

They CAN'T let that happen. Which is why I don't expect an honest count. But I'm crossing my fingers. And toes.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:15 AM
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2. I'm actually surprised by the repuke turn out.
It's hard for me to think walker has this kind of support.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:20 AM
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3. I am not surprised
When you consider the amount of propaganda hurled across all media sources, the GOP GOTV efforts, and the total amount of money from both the Koch groups and the religious right, one could predict the RW would come out for this. I am just amazed, frankly, that it looks like K will win against all this. Hope for the future.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:42 AM
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8. my thinking goes a little like this: everybody loves a winner & the
protestors and unions were really acting like winners.

and i think they had created quite a positive buzz for them selves.

so i'm surprised this wasn't a wave really.
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:22 AM
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5. Yes, me too. I think I have surrounded myself with progressives
these last few months and have had a false sense of reality.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:23 AM
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6. Apparently there was a lot of outside money spent on Prosser ads
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 11:24 AM by emulatorloo
in the days before the election. You know what those kinds of outsider ads are like - short on the truth, big on the kind of calculated outrage that fires up Republican voters.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:21 PM
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11. THIS is what we are going to see in SPADES in the 2012 election.
These corporations are going to make any democrat or reasonable republican look like the devil himself. It's going to be so much more of a gut punch to this country that ANYONE ever imagined...well, anyone other than the people who pushed the supremes to allow total, unobstructed corporate take-over of the USA.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:58 AM
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10. Republicans are always more motivated than Democrats
Republicans have a more desperate attitude about America's direction. They seem to truly believe their propaganda.. I find that simply amazing..
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:34 PM
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15. "retired cons with nothing better to do " vote, you mean n/t
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 02:36 PM by librechik
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:21 AM
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4. Liberals and Democrats should have been much, much more motivated to vote
then Republicans.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:26 AM
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7. Yeah, the preachers do a great job of rallying their flocks
to go vote for being fleeced again.

Conservatives will always get out the vote. They're angry and fearful all the time. It's how they live.

Democrats need to understand that.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:53 AM
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9. it seems as if in state and local races
it is often the republicans who get the best numbers while too many democrats stay home. i don't know if that's applicable in WI for this race, but it does seem to happen a lot.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:26 PM
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12. Maybe the Democrats are staying at work not at home. More GOP get time off to vote
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:02 PM
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13. that's possible
but the polls are open both before and after most people are working. here in NC they open at 6:30 and close at i think 8 pm. i don't know. just seems that most people would vote the right way if only they would vote.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:32 PM
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14. Six weeks ago he was predicted to win a LANDSLIDE VICTORY
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