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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:00 AM Original message |
Bradley Manning's Attorney: He Has Now Been Denied Visits by Rep. Kucinich and Amnesty & UN Reps. |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
1. Shame on this country |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
13. Why? Read the OP--they are allowed to visit. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
2. Obama's message to future whistleblowers: |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Right, because being in jail is torture. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. You reveal yourself by pretending its about pillows /nt |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:24 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. I'm simply tired of the hyperbole. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. But it is torture to have Dennis Kucinich visit!!! |
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Wait Wut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. +1 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:42 AM Original message |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 05:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
105. because he is ranking Dem on the subcommittee in charge of |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #17 |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 09:52 PM Response to Reply #17 |
117. And the government says it will monitor and use anything |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:00 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. Yes. Just like every other prison visit in the country. There's no |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Nope, it's what the CIA calls "slow torture" |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:29 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I agree that the visit from DK will be slow torture. n/t |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Real hilarious topic, eh? /nt |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #29 |
42. The inability of some DUers to read the 2nd paragraph is indeed amusing. n/t |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
63. D you support the Bush administration's abuse of Constitutional rights |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Which constitutional right is being violated? Be specific. n/t |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #66 |
78. You have to ask? |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #78 |
88. Monitoring prison visits violates none of these rights. n/t |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #88 |
101. When a defendent's attorney claims the defendent is |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Show me where the defendant's attorney claims 'torture.' Because I read the 138 complaint, and |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #103 |
107. His attorney claims he is being abused. A U.S. Congressmember |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. So I am correct---his attorney is NOT claiming torture, then? Show us where Coombs claims 'abuse.' |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. His friend has been harrassed and has been kept from visiting |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 09:56 PM Response to Reply #111 |
118. The friend who went to Quantico with an unregistered car and no proof of insurance? He fixed that, |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:53 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. 'Degrading and humiliating' treatment violates the |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 08:26 AM Response to Reply #122 |
125. So I was right? His attorney isn't claiming 'torture' or 'abuse?' |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #125 |
149. The GC are part of the laws of this land. They set a standard |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #149 |
153. Again, can you cite a claim from the man's attorney that supports your contention? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #153 |
157. So, you refuse to condemn Bush policies regarding the detention |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 09:34 AM Response to Reply #107 |
137. Some of the posts on this thread sound very much like the excuse |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 10:01 AM Response to Reply #137 |
139. Can you name a single instance of 'abuse' that his lawyer is claiming happened? |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #139 |
156. Don't be deliberately obtuse... |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 08:49 AM Response to Reply #78 |
127. So what is your point... |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 08:53 AM Response to Reply #127 |
128. Talk about lack of compassion or a sense of justice /nt |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #128 |
130. I have no compassion... |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 09:55 AM Response to Reply #130 |
138. Because he exposed war crimes? /nt |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 10:10 AM Response to Reply #138 |
140. What war crimes were exposed when he leaked the global server addresses of the US Command in Iraq? |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 10:28 AM Response to Reply #140 |
142. Is this the war crime you wish had not been exposed? |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #142 |
144. Are you conceding that the Army is correct? Manning is the leaker? |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 11:55 AM Response to Reply #144 |
148. Just seeing if the poster thinks that might be a war crime |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #148 |
151. No problems here... |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #151 |
154. Ah, I get it /nt |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 08:05 PM Response to Reply #127 |
160. What utter nonsense. He did not 'make reference to suicide' |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 09:27 AM Response to Reply #24 |
132. Gotta love DU these days |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
102. You say you're tired of the hyperbole right after saying Manning thing is over a pillow |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 09:44 PM Response to Reply #102 |
113. +1 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 09:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 08:44 AM Response to Reply #8 |
126. Yes, s/he does. eom |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Disgusting post. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #7 |
44. What, no pony reference? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 09:45 PM Response to Reply #44 |
114. Manning's not gay as far as I can tell. I think s/he saves the ponies for teh gay. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
80. Yes, like just being forced to wear underwear on your head |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 09:25 AM Response to Reply #7 |
131. You sound like Rush Limbaugh |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 09:29 AM Response to Reply #7 |
133. You sound like Rush Limbaugh |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. Um, read the OP--they are allowed to visit. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #2 |
60. Manning is NOT a whistleblower. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. He should have registered with the Obama whistleblower office? /nt |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 09:47 PM Response to Reply #60 |
115. Yes, he hasn't blown any "whistles". He just publicized corruption at great personal expense. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
3. They had to make sure to set a public example with Manning |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
4. K&R n/t |
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dennis4868 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
5. Good! The asshole deserves it.... |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. He revealed war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan /nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Pretrial punishment is still illegal in America. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:29 AM Response to Reply #11 |
23. Hard to believe that, isn't it... /nt |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #23 |
106. No--not anymore, sadly. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 09:33 AM Response to Reply #5 |
136. So, you've determined that he's guilty |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
9. What are they hiding? |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #9 |
20. That's their question |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #20 |
33. True, that AND wanting him to implicate Assange |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #9 |
21. Nothing, which is why they can all visit. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Nonsense, they've laid down terms that violate his rights |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Um, dude, it's pretty obvious you've NEVER visited anyone in prison. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #35 |
150. I have many times, and have never encountered the |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #21 |
34. The Obama administration is now on the record as obstructing |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. How??? They are ALLOWED to visit. Read the OP. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Why don't you try reading the OP instead of repeating |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Dude, in the OP it states that they are allowed to visit. They will be subject to the same terms |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:03 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Three separate investigations. Count 'em, three. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #53 |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Yep, this is Obama at his worst /nt |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #21 |
108. So, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and policitians, cannot investigate his condition??? |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:05 PM Response to Reply #108 |
120. Of course they can investigate. What's stopping them? |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
12. Your headline is completely incorrect--they are allowed to visit. |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #12 |
41. so 'visits' have NOT been denied? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. *Official* visits by these people, who are all investigating |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #43 |
59. Yes. Why should any of these people have more rights than any other citizen? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #59 |
76. This question has already been answered for you. n/t |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #76 |
94. Actually, you've failed to cite a single law, opinion, or even a treaty point that's been violated |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
18. The thread title is misleading. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
19. The article you linked to says in the second paragraph |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:30 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Misleading headline about Bradley Manning? Quelle Surprise!!! n/t |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. BS |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. There's a big difference between being denied the right to |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Yes, because Manning wouldn't feel intimidated in the least |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #38 |
46. He's already spoken out about his prison treatment. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:55 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. And now you defenders of this disgusting crap |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. What are you talking about? You claimed that he would be too |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:03 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. This is obstruction and it violates international law. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:12 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Really? Which 'international law' is being violated? n/t |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. You do know there are int'l laws against torture, right? |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:36 PM Response to Reply #65 |
75. I can see how allowing a visit from DK could be construed as torture.....n/t |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #65 |
93. Explain, please, how allowing a visit violates torture law? n/t |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. +1 |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. OMFG--are you serious??? Are you completely unfamiliar with how a jail runs? |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Those people aren't his attorneys. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. The UN has opened an investigation on the conditions of his detention. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #40 |
48. And? The UN aren't his attorneys, and have no rights greater than any other citizen. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. The US ratified the UN Convention Against Torture in 1994. n/t |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #51 |
69. And....? They STILL aren't his attorneys. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. The UN Convention Against Torture is a legally binding instrument. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. So you keep repeating, but you utterly fail to state HOW the convention has been violated. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 07:34 PM Response to Reply #77 |
159. His treatment doesn't just violate International law, it violates |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. And they still won't represent him on the charges in a milItary court martial. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. Not at all. The UN is investigating the Obama administration for torture. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. And they get to visit. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. No, the request for an official visit has been denied. |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Really? When did Manfred Nowak do that? n/t |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #83 |
91. If Manfred Nowak isn't complaining, then why are you? |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. And your delighted with this why? |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. I am delighted that Mr. Manning will be visited by DK-- |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:28 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. Torture is so funny, isn't it! |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
54. K & R |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
57. Disgraceful. n/t |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
64. Headline should read: Kucinich, UN Reps Allowed To Visit Manning |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. That's the Fox News headline, for sure /nt |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. The one in the title of the original post sure seems like a Fox headline. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. No. The UN and Amnesty are conducting investigations. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
70. Deleted message |
bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #70 |
82. I Reced this thread, |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
72. Shame, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame. n/t |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #72 |
84. Manning is being held under the terms dictated by the UCMJ... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Punitive pre-trial detention, ILLEGAL under the UCMJ. n/t |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 09:31 AM Response to Reply #85 |
134. They don't care |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. No need for a trial, thanks for your verdict /nt |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #84 |
97. LOL Yeah! Fuck that innocent until proven guilty and having trials and stuff like that! |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #84 |
104. Other have pointed out that Manning has NOT been convicted... |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #104 |
110. For leaking the global server addresses of the US Army in Iraq? |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 04:53 AM Response to Reply #110 |
123. I'm not aware of any charges related to leaking... |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 08:09 AM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Well, if you read what he was charged with, you might be aware of the charges. One might want to |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 10:23 AM Response to Reply #124 |
141. OK, lets see.... |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 11:05 AM Response to Reply #141 |
145. Again, you want to explain how giving global server addresses of the US Command |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 09:32 AM Response to Reply #110 |
135. He's guilty before a trial? |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #135 |
146. According to several posters on this thread, Manning is the leaker. |
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_ed_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #146 |
155. If you're ever accused of a crime, |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 08:58 AM Response to Reply #104 |
129. Makes my brain hurt... |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
81. President *Bush* should be ashamed! |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
90. Whistleblowr + UN + Amnesty International = Danger to 'Murka. |
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grntuscarora (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
95. The UN and Amnesty Intl |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. That's right. Abu Quantico could put all of this to rest just like that. n/t |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
96. "Appropriate and meeting our basic standards." |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. A very bad Obama moment /nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. "It is a first-class, first-rate facility that meets any kind of international standard |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-07-11 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
121. k&r! nt |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
147. Kick. nt |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
152. Yay for President Obama. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-08-11 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
158. It's so sad that folks "out there" aren't paying attention to what Manning is going through... |
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