HELP! This *April 6 *Brookfield Newspaper has printed that the votes were already counted on Apr. 6

[Zorra]

I don't understand; I must be missing something. Can someone please explain this to me?

How did the editor of the Brookfield Patch know on Wed., April 6, what the vote totals were for Brookfield, when the missing votes were not discovered until Thurs. April 7? These vote totals were obviously published way before there was any controversy.

How come the local Brookfield newspaper printed these lost vote totals the day before they were "found"?

Brookfield Gives Prosser Nearly 11K Votes
By Lisa Sink | Email the author | April 6, 2011
Incumbent State Supreme Court Justice David Prosser gets 10,859 votes from city residents or 76 percent against JoAnne Kloppenburg.

As expected, Brookfield city voters ran up a good turnout in the state Supreme Court race and gave incumbent Justice David Prosser nearly 11,000 votes.

Unofficial, unaudited results showed 76 percent of city residents who voted picked Prosser, with 24 percent voting for challenger JoAnne Kloppenburg.

That translated to a city voting turnout of about 53 percent, the city's second-highest for a spring election since 2001, but nowhere near the 79 percent turnout for the gubernatorial race last November.

http://brookfield-wi.patch.com/articles/brookfield-gives-prosser-nearly-11k-votes

[elleng]

1. Dunno; haven't studied, but

I think the 'error' was discovered before it went public today.

[Fuzz]

2. Hot tub time machine?

[rufus dog]

3. That was posted yesterday?

So the story could go that the updated totals were given yesterday and posted on the website before releasing the updates to the rest of the media.

Good find, another piece of the puzzle that needs to be explained.

[PeaceNikki]

4. sigh

County HAD Brookfield's numbers and discovered the error Wednesday around noon and reported to GAB then. Press conference was today. The error was omission from COUNTY totals reported to media Tues night. The city knew their numbers.

Brookfield had their numbers Tuesday and submitted them to the county. The county omitted from totals given to media. This article is likely sourced from numbers Brookfield had, not parsed out of county total.

[rufus dog]

8. so then the results were released to the local paper yesterday

Did the other papers in Wisconsin pick up the story then or did it not hit the fan until late today?

[PeaceNikki]

10. The story you reference is merely a "yay, us!" not, hey,the clerk left us out!

Right?

WTF story is that? Nobody cared at that point how many one small community turned out.

[Zorra]

14. But how did they know the results of the election?

[PeaceNikki]

19. The CITY

[Zorra]

12. And how come the local paper did not mention any error by Nickolaus?

It would have been hot news.

[PeaceNikki]

13. They didn't know then.

This story is just a local piece saying what turnout and results were. The county clerk knew Wednesday that these #'s weren't in totals, but press didn't.

[rufus dog]

17. I would believe the theory is that no one pieced it all together

That is the results were reported, missed into entry into Access and then that error was caught today.

[PeaceNikki]

20. The Clerk SAID she caught it Wed around noon and that they'd been reviewing since.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

23. I wonder what time this was posted - online only or in newspaper too?

I never saw this anywhere else.

[PeaceNikki]

27. Why does that matter?

This story is just a local piece saying what turnout and results were. County HAD Brookfield's numbers but failed to add them to totals released to press. The city didn't know they were missing from county totals.

The story you reference is merely a "yay, us!" not, hey, the clerk left us out! Right? WTF kinda story is that? Nobody cared at that point how many one small community turned out.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

32. I really havent any idea why you are yelling but it's annoying.

[PeaceNikki]

34. One can yell over the internets?

lol, awesome.

[JDPriestly]

48. The totals for the county need to be retallied.

She may be counting Brookfield twice.

I say that because the reports I saw posted showed that all precincts had been reported in every county in the state of Wisconsin. Brookfield would be a separate precinct considering the number of votes involved. Whe may be counting the votes twice.

Also the numbers of votes have to be compared to the voter sign-in sheets.

[Tx4obama]

26. I think you are confused.

No one knew that the numbers were not added into the 'county total' until today.

The people in Brookside CITY knew their vote totals, but the media did not know that the total was not added in at the county level until today

[PeaceNikki]

28. Brookfield.

Gosh, I am glad this didn't happen in Oconomowoc. :)

[Tx4obama]

30. LOL. Yeah Brookfield :) n/t

[jsamuel]

5. Good enough question, although I do remember reading Nickolaus say that she realized the problem

on the 6th, but sometime during the day.

What time of day was that posted?

[Bound by Honor]

21. Nickalaus needs to be indicted. She has been investigated for electioneering/election fraud

Any woman who kisses the asses of the Republican Party, and especially the disgusting Scott Walker needs to be indicted.

Katherine Nicklaus will be indicted.

[Tx4obama]

6. Because ....

The votes were counted and Brookfield knew how many there were.
Where the numbers got lost were AFTER they were sent into the main office, the numbers just didn't get added into the grand total for the whole county.

[jsamuel]

9. so are you saying that Brookfield tabulated their own votes from all their precincts

and not the precincts reporting directly to the county clerk?

[Tx4obama]

16. Brookfield is a city. n/t

[Zorra]

18. Ok. That makes sense. Thanks. nt

[Dawson Leery]

7. k/r

[Tx4obama]

11. The Brookfield newspaper got the numbers from Brookfield, not the county clerk.

Brookfield (city) also sent their numbers in on Tuesday night to Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus. She's the one that didn't add them to the county total.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

25. Ewwwww. This gives me a sinking feeling -nt

[Bound by Honor]

15. The Waukesha County Clerk needs an indictment, fast.

Call it election fraud.

The proof is there. Kloppenberg will win due to this indictment and the votes entire city of Brookfield will be thrown out thanks to this Katherine v2.0 - if she _CANNOT_ prove that these votes are legitimate because someone 'forgot' to add the city - BULL FUCKING SHIT.

[PeaceNikki]

22. Waukesha

[Bound by Honor]

24. Thanks

Corrected..

:hug: - I'm hoping you'll manage to find a way to seat Kloppenberg. I really suspect election shenanigans.

There was info on Ms. Nicklaus that she was previously investigated for similar issues. I think it's time to bring in the heavyweights of verified voter community again - and have them thoroughly audit Waukesha County. I'm sure they managed to lie about their actual counts. Very red county, I'd suspect. Is it easy enough to lie about the actual numbers of the votes?

[eowyn_of_rohan]

35. We don't care if you want to call it Waukeshit

[Tx4obama]

29. What the newspaper article proves is that those were that city's numbers before the snafu

at the county level.

[rufus dog]

31. how so?

They could have got the numbers yesterday when she found her error.

[Tx4obama]

37. The city of Brookfield transmitted their number to the county on Tuesday night

there will be a record of that.
All transmissions, correspondence, etc. are going to be investigated.
Kloppenburg has requested all the records.

The problem was at the county level, not at the city level.

[rufus dog]

38. that is my hope

That there will be a paper trail, will make it easy to put it to bed one way or the other.

But back to my original question, do you know for a fact that the city transmitted the numbers on Tuesday or is it your belief they numbers were transmitted on Tuesday?

[eowyn_of_rohan]

39. unfortunately, it means the numbers may be legitimate

doesn't it?

[rufus dog]

40. Maybe yes

But not my point in asking the questions, right now there is doubt and I see know reason not to let the doubt fester.

We have a news media, including the supposed liberal giving hours to "Was he born in the US?" The thing to do is to let it play out as much as possible in the press. It might not change the results but the Republicans will be on the defensive for her ineptness. (at a minimum)

[Tx4obama]

42. The city of Brookfield came out and said that they tranmitted the numbers Tuesday night

they said that BEFORE Kathy Nickolaus gave the press conference.
They said that 'they had no idea what was going on at the county level' before the press conference was given.

[rufus dog]

43. interesting

I didn't see that in the article, where did that information come from?

On Edit - read the responses to the article that weren't there earlier and found your source, a reporter for the local paper. Also did a search on her and read the latest tweets!

So we have a reporter for a local paper, who emphasizes with the clerk, as the source for when the info was given. Sorry, not nearly good enough to answer all of the questions.

[Tx4obama]

44. From Wisconsin Reporter ... here ya go ...

4:56 PM: Waukesha County clerk calls 5:30 p.m. news conference

The Waukesha County Clerk planned a 5:30 p.m. news conference today to discuss its vote totals amid reports that it failed to include the votes for Brookfield in the results it sent The Associated Press on Election Night.

It could represent a more than 7,000-vote swing in an election that whipped back and forth this afternoon as county canvass totals came in.

Brookfield City Clerk Kris Schmidt said she sent her numbers to the county clerk's office Tuesday night that showed David Prosser with 10,859 votes and JoAnne Kloppenburg with 3,456. She said those numbers did not change in the postmortem she did after the election.

"I have no clue what’s going on. she said. "No one has officially told me what’s going on."

http://elections.wispolitics.com/

[Tx4obama]

45. Becareful. Ya don't want to start to sound like 'Glenn Beck'. ;) n/t

[rufus dog]

46. Hell I haven't even reached Andrea Mitchell or your standard CNN reporter

Got a friggen mile to go before entering Bill O' territory after that you can almost see Hannity lane, then over the hills is Beckerville.

[Tx4obama]

47. Statement from the Brookfield Mayor ....

Statement: Steve Ponto, Mayor of Brookfield: “It’s ironic that the vote by the City of Brookfield, which Justice Prosser won with 75%, would have been inadvertently left out of the election count by Waukesha County. That is what we have a vote canvas for and the error was caught. It is important to note that the City’s initial count was confirmed exactly by the City’s own canvas. Our numbers were transmitted accurately to the County. The error was when the County transmitted the numbers to the Associated Press. The City’s voting statistics were correctly posted on the City website on election night.” (9:05 PM)

[Tx4obama]

33. Here's the run down

1) Folks in Brookfield voted Tuesday.
2) The votes were added up Tuesday evening, and the city sent the totals to Kathy Nickolaus the County Clerk Tuesday night.
3) The Brookfield newspaper got the vote totals 'from' Brookfield and wrote an article posted it Wednesday sometime.
4) At the County level Kathy realized around noon that she didn't have Brookfield in her total for that county when she looked at a print out and it said 'all zeros' for the city of Brookfield.
5) Thursday (TODAY) during the canvassing Kathy Nickolaus held a press conference to try to explain her error of not having Brookfield in county total.

Ta da!

[PeaceNikki]

36. Yes. This.

Thanks.

[liberal life]

41. very interesting....

http://fucorporatemedia.com/

[mazzarro]

49. I've seen a few people on this board

Try to calm things down by stating that this all seem to be plain old simple clerical error. But the question I have not seen answered is "why is it that every time there is a true hick-up in the electoral process anywhere in the country, it always benefit the reThugs?"

[PeaceNikki]

50. I said "appears". That word means something.