has David Frum turned out to be an ok guy, he's over in twitter

[sasha031]

giving details of what is in HR1


as usual the deepest thing the media can handle is a lunatic like trump.

[H2O Man]

1. An odd fellow, he.

I don't think he is all bad. But he is, at best, in the margins between bad and okay.

[sasha031]

2. it appears to me he's trying to educate people one of his tweets

Rs: don't count on Fox News to win opinion battle in a shutdown. The people Rs need to win dont watch Fox News.

[H2O Man]

4. He is an

example of the republican's "elder wing," that views the radical right wing as out of control, and dangerous to their party. I've enjoyed hearing him talk about the Tea Party jackasses. Yet he is a republican party loyalist.

[sasha031]

6. reading his blog

for instance
http://www.frumforum.com/reading-romneys-mind


he has and will always be on the dark side, but at least it gives a level of understanding of who really pulls the strings.

[Me.]

3. He's The Sanest A Con Will Ever Be

But his core beliefs will keep him on the other side of the aisle

[sasha031]

5. Lobbyists Drive the Shutdown

With fights over budget policy riders threatening to shut down the government, it’s interesting to take a look at what types of policy changes the House GOP is trying to extract through the budget process. Luckily, OMB Watch, a decidedly competent left-of-center regulatory watchdog that happens to have its offices just a few doors down from mine, has put together a very good list of the budget riders that Republicans have attached to their spending plan.
1. The media-popular idea idea that the budget fight is driven by the GOP’s cultural-conservative wing seems overblown. There are three provisions (out of nearly 100) that relate to abortion: one applies only the District of Columbia, one only to international organizations, and one only to Planned Parenthood. (And, given a federal court ruling that a more-or-less identical law about ACORN was unconstitutional, the last won’t stand up in court.) I’m pro-life myself and honestly I can’t see much of a reason to get excited about any of these provisions. There’s nothing in the proposal, best as I can tell, that impacts gays, marriage, gambling, or booze.

. The proposed healthcare policy riders are so broad that if implemented, they would amount to an outright repeal of the healthcare bill. They offer so little wiggle-room that President Obama can’t, as a political mater, agree to even a single one of them as written.


http://www.frumforum.com/lobbyists-drive-shutdown

[Me.]

8. IT'S NOT ABOUT ABORTIONS

Just as he points out he's pro-life the Cons keep pinning the Planned Parenthood rider to abortions when every jackass one of them knows that the Hyde amendment prevents any federal spending on abortions. This is about women's reproductive, such as cancer screenings, birth control and so forth. And isn't it ironic that there's no rider which says that Viagra can no longer be covered (which it is)until birth control is also (which it is not). If these people were really pro life that rider never would've been put in, in the first place.

[sasha031]

9. it's about deregulation of industry and defunding EPA ect

the culture issues are a smokescreen

[CJCRANE]

7. I think Frum actually believed the Bushco rhetoric at the time

and didn't realize that it was just meaningless spiel designed to fool people.

Today's GOP is the party of Rove and Gingrich were words are just weapons to be used in a game.

They can say one thing today and then say the opposite tomorrow. Convictions and prinicles don't matter to them.

[deutsey]

10. Until he joined the Busheviks I respected Frum

I didn't agree with him on many things, but he always seemed to give honest, well-reasoned commentaries that at least made me think there were valid points on "the other side" worthing considering.

All his "axis of evil" bullshit blew that away, though.