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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:41 PM
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It's official. The entire State of Wisconsin has come unhinged.
The division in this State is extreme, and it is hurting our State and the People. Families and friendships are coming apart.


Let's hope some good comes from it. We need to keep fighting for the People, or soon they will be serfs of their corporate masters.
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tcaudilllg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:44 PM
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1. Which is better: Nazi-like collectivism a la Arizona, or civil cold war a la Wisconsin?
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:47 PM
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2. that was the take-home message I got from the Prosser-Kloppenburg results....
While everyone else was crowing that the results showed how motivated and energized dems were, I was thinking that the best those motivated and energized dems accomplished was to highlight the depth of partisan division in Wisconsin and likely, I think, throughout the U.S. It's certainly similar here in California.

Maybe the fact that 65% of registered voters were not motivated enough to go to the polls is actually good news. Those voters were also not motivated enough to maintain such extreme and irreducible partisan division.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:55 PM
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10. Yeah, I think it's a hard core divided country. I sometimes fantasize we should just
split the country in half. I would pick up and move in an instant to an area that excluded all of the crazies in this country.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 01:07 PM
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14. Off-year, non-gubanatorial, state elections are often poorly attended
Most counties had record turn out for this sort of election. We can carp about that it changes nothing.
Some communities had whopping big turnouts.

Excitement on one side of a campaign generally raises a mirror response in the other. Especially in a state that is born to the purple.

In the Milwaukee County exec race, we humiliated Jeff Stone voting 2 to 1 against him. We did what we could, and took most of the major metropolitan areas in the state, as well as a number of western counties. Dems were outperformed in the Green Bay area. That's pretty typical and I don't really understand it.

Certainly the voter participation could be better. But when you look at it, many precincts doubled their turnouts. It remained below what you would want, but it was a 100% improvement over previous elections.

Rather than kicking ourselves in the Ass here in Wisconsin we need to look at what we did achieve, learn from it, and do better.

No people are more disappointed than the activists in this state, and you can put many Wisconsin DUers into that group.




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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:48 PM
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3. If they find wrongdoing in those 14,000 votes that lady should land in jail.
Precisely because this issue has become to divisive. This kind of thing will destabilize us, creating a national security problem when we don't trust one another well enough to bandy together when we get attacked.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:52 PM
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5. I'm told the Corrections Department has a cell waiting for her at Taycheedah. n/t
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:55 PM
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9. The elites will cover it up and reward her-ask Ken blackwell!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:55 PM
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11. Were these votes found after closing time of the election day?
If so, why are they being counted?
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StarburstClock Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 01:12 PM
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15. The "wrongdoing" is already fact, she should be arrested now
The way she took over the voter records, not allowing anyone else access, is proof she's guilty of voter fraud regardless of the supposed votes recorded that she and only she has access to. It's blatant election tampering.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_fraud
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:52 PM
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4. Well I still got a really great county Executive
(Joe Parisi) and a great mayor (two great choices) and I live in a terrific city and there are a 1.6 million Democrats that got out and voted on Tuesday so I'm not ready to give up yet. And I have a terrific Congresswoman (Tammy Baldwin) and State Senator (Mark Miller) and Governor in waiting (Russ Feingold)(lots of great choices) so all is not lost.

We're going to get through this. :thumbsup: :patriot:
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:53 PM
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7. +1
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 02:45 PM
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16. How could 1.6 million Democrats have voted when the total
state wide vote was only 1.5 million?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:52 PM
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6. HYPERBOLEEEE ALERRRRT! States do NOT become unhinged, but people can and do, or already are.
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 12:53 PM by L. Coyote
For example, the Tea Party is a loose collective of the already unhinged :rofl:

Seriously, a lot of good has already come of the Wisconsin Tea Party. Primarily, the Party and their party are over!
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:54 PM
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8. For the billionth time: I never use hyperbole. n/t
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 11:45 PM
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17. LOL
:rofl: GOOOO one!
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 01:01 PM
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12. I'm sorry that you're going through this
Sorry that were all going through this. But the time for conflict is upon us. Either we change, or the world chokes itself to death. We have no other choice. Fight hard and stay strong. United, we can prevail.
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Laxman Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 01:03 PM
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13. Interesting State
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 01:03 PM by Laxman
I was listening to an old Jean Shepherd radio program last night from 1972. Some of the MP3's include parts of the newscast from before or after Jean's show started. The one I listened to last night was from the night of the 1972 Wisconsin primary. It had a significant portion of the news after the show was over. There was an analysis of the voting returns that had McGovern in the lead with George Wallace a surprisingly close second. The commentator went on for about a minute regarding the divide between urban and rural areas of the state. I guess things really haven't changed all that much.
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