I have one question?

[svsuman23]

What have the Democrats done since Oct. 2010 to get a budget done?

[GKirk]

1. Why you asking?

:hide:

[svsuman23]

3. because this situation could have been avoided if the Dems would have put up a budget last oct.

Am I wrong?

But since they didn't we now have to deal with the repukes on the matter!

[jberryhill]

8. Yes, you are wrong

The current budget must be made and passed by the 112th Congress, not the 111th Congress.

[former9thward]

16. That is not correct.

The current federal fiscal year began Oct 1, 2010. A budget was supposed to be passed before then. That was the 111th Congress.

[jberryhill]

21. They don't have one for this year or next year

[former9thward]

25. They are debating the one for last year right now.

The one for this year has not even started yet.

[Justitia]

10. yes, you are wrong

[former9thward]

17. No you are.

Current fiscal year began last year.

[Justitia]

20. when did we have a super majority to overcome the auto filibuster?

[former9thward]

23. Didn't need one.

The House proposes budgets under the Constitution. No filibuster in the House. The House did not pass a budget.

[Justitia]

26. are you trying to say the House could pass the budget w/out the Senate?

I have only heard this argument in RW media.

[svsuman23]

28. , they can't.

But you have to pass one in the House first. The dems didn't even pass one in the house. I'm pissed at them right now.

[Justitia]

29. then you are pissed at the wrong people

sorry if you have no memory of how all that went down last fall

[MNBrewer]

31. Remind us, then, please.

If how all that went down last fall is an excuse.

[Justitia]

34. why should I educate you on RW talking points - pick up the NYTimes or something & read

we went thru sooooo much bullshit last fall about the republicans using the auto filibuster to block the proposed budget until AFTER the election

enlighten yourself

I'm tired of hearing this RW talking point today

[svsuman23]

36. the House Dems were blocked by a repuke auto filibuster?

[Justitia]

38. were you around last fall?

[MNBrewer]

40. If facts are important, then they're worth restating

Otherwise, well...

[Justitia]

41. RW talking points that deny reality are not. Its not my job to educate the oblivious on the obvious

[MNBrewer]

42. WHAT RW talking point?

[Justitia]

46. That the GOP is shutting down the gov't because Dems didn't pass budget last congress

This shit has been blast-faxed everywhere today

[MNBrewer]

49. Those are separate issues!

1. The Dems COULD have passed a budget (at least through the House, if not all the way through the Senate), but didn't.
2. The Repubs are the ones forcing the shutdown now.

Frankly, to complain about #1 now is like complaining that your favorite sports team didn't start so-and-so at such-and-such a position in the crucial game of last season. it's water under the bridge.

Who is to blame for the current "crisis"? Republicans! Let me say that more emphatically!

REPUBLICANS ARE TO BLAME FOR THE CURRENT BUDGET CRISIS!!

Lest anyone thing that i'm a crypto-Republican...

[Justitia]

50. Who said there is any logic to it? When do these charges EVER make sense?

That's why I get tired of addressing these nonsensical parrot points when they show up here, on OUR board.

[William769]

43. Another RW talking point is not to answer the question asked.

Balls in your court.

[svsuman23]

32. the dems had no voice and didn't motivate their base to vote. dems fault.

[MNBrewer]

44. Have you ever looked at the US Constitution?

I know it's somewhat out of fashion these days, but.

Article 1, section 7.

The House must pass any budget bill BEFORE the Senate gets to vote on it.

[Name removed]

47. Deleted message

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[monmouth]

2. Fought against recalcitrant, stupid repubs. Next?...n/r

[svsuman23]

5. seems to me they got other things passed, did tthey not?

[jberryhill]

4. Considering that this Congress didn't start its session until January 2011...

...then I'd be fascinated to learn your perspective on why the 111th Congress was supposed to be doing the 112th Congress' job.

[blondeatlast]

9. +1; I would so love to hear the OP's response! nt

[svsuman23]

24. this is why I thought that.

The United States Federal Budget for Fiscal Year 2011, is a spending request by President Barack Obama to fund government operations for October 2010–September 2011<1><2>. Figures shown in the spending request do not reflect the actual appropriations for Fiscal Year 2011, which must be authorized by Congress. The budget did not pass by the September 30 deadline, and the government has been funded by a series of six continuing resolutions continuing funding at or near 2010 levels, the most recent of which expires on April 8, 2011



http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_United_States_federal_budget.

[svsuman23]

27. I would love to hear your response To my reply! ;)

[svsuman23]

33. please, tell me your response. I'm curious.

[svsuman23]

11. thought the budget started in oct.

[jberryhill]

14. Kindly refer to the Congressional Budget Act of 1974

The budget process begins on the first Monday in February.

[GKirk]

18. Do you base that on Fox News? n/t

[former9thward]

19. The fiscal year begins Oct 1, 2010.

Budget should have been passed before that date.

[Justitia]

6. question for you - when did we have a super majority to overcome the auto filibuster?

[atreides1]

7. They tried

It was the Republicans in the Senate that kept blocking it...

[svsuman23]

13. so instead of getting a couple repukes to sign off on the bill

Its easier to get the house repukes to sign off?

[Drale]

12. Self Delete

[jillan]

15. Didn't they try and the republicans blocked it?

I don't have a link but I remember hearing about that.

[former9thward]

22. Budget proposals begin in the House.

Republicans could not block anything in the House last year. The House never passed a budget.

[Justitia]

37. YES

[svsuman23]

30. eems we have come to an agreement

That this is the house dems fault for not passing a budget.

[Justitia]

35. you can keep repeating this RW talking point over and over - it doesn't make it true

[William769]

48. Just because you keep saying it's a rw talking point

Doesn't make it one.

A civics book is your friend.

[PeanutGallery]

51. Oh please ...

And you can sit here and just spout off "RW Talking point" all day, and that doesn't make it right either. I work for the federal government, and the fiscal year for the government starts on Oct. 1. Meaning the current fiscal year is from Oct. 1, 2010 to Sept. 30, 2011. Congress, starting with the House, is supposed to do a budget before the start of the fiscal year so that government agencices will know how much they have to spend for the upcoming year. October 1, 2011 starts the FY 2012 spending. Because Congress have to mess around with this, they're behind in working on the budget for FY 2012. As much as you may not like what the OP has said; the fact of the matter is that the OP is right. The House never passed a budget. In fact, there wasn't a vote to pass a budget. Here's a link to Steny Hoyer announcing that there won't be a budget back in June 2010.

No Budget

BTW, I can't believe that people are trying to bust the OP because of their low post count. There was a time you were a member of DU and had only 100 posts. Is there a magic number where a person can post without being questioned as being a freeper?

[butterfly77]

39. After you answer this one for me..

"WHAT HAVE THE REPUBLICONS DONE TO CREATE JOBS!!!

[William769]

53. Nothing. question answered.

Now do want to answer instead of trying to deflect?

[jillan]

45. This is being discussed right now on msnbc. Congress had a budget, Senate Repubs said they would

filibuster it.

They are interviewing Congressman Adam Smith from the Armed Services Committee.

[PeanutGallery]

52. Congress didn't have a budget

I guess Steny Hoyer lied when he said that there wasn't going to be a budget because they felt that they had to wait until after the Debt Commission published its findings. The report wasn't going to come out until after the budget was due. The House, where the budget starts, wasn't going to vote on one, and he doesn't mention the reason being that a Republican filibuster. BTW, the Republican filibuster didn't stop health care reform from passing so why would it work for the budget?