Hey ladies shut down your bodies to all men

[malaise]

who want to shut down planned parenthood.

[monmouth]

1. By George, I think you've got it.....LOL....n/t

[malaise]

3. Sex rules the world

No planned parenthood no sex.

They'll soon understand the meaning of gridlock!! :evilgrin:

[JuniperLea]

13. Wasn't there a George Carlin routine about this?

Everything we do is for the one end result... some end!

[malaise]

53. George covered every damn thing

and very well :D

[Drale]

2. You scared me for a second

but after reading the full text, I agree :rofl:

[socialist_n_TN]

49. I SWEAR I posted without reading yours...........

I said almost the exact same thing. :)

[darkstar3]

4. So what do we do about the women who also want to shut down PP?

[malaise]

10. Avoid them like the plague

:evilgrin:

[blondeatlast]

45. They are all that are available to the men who want to close PP--

My GAWD! They'd have to be faithful to their wives. The utter HORROR!!!

[JuniperLea]

They should hand in their clitoris...

They don't deserve one.

[socialist_n_TN]

51. Word!

:rofl:

[spooky3]

59. raise their taxes

[musette_sf]

5. iz Lysistrata tiemz nao

[malaise]

6. In a gridlock

box :rofl:

[Jmaxfie1]

11. yeah, beat me too it. n/t

[EFerrari]

7. The world would crack open.

lol

[malaise]

8. Hahahahaha

Yah think :rofl:

[Jmaxfie1]

9. Reminds me of a play by Aristophanes.

The women refuse to have sex with any men till the end The Peloponnesian War.

[malaise]

15. That's exactly what I thought about

No planned parenthood no sex!!

[CJvR]

29. That wouldn't have worked...

...on the Spartans.

[EFerrari]

41. And we can glean from modern Spartans how successful

their strategery was. :)

[Brigid]

67. If I remember correctly . . .

The play "Lysistrata" was about the Spartan and Athenian women banding together to go on "strike" to put a stop to the stupid warring.

[Aerows]

106. You remember very correctly

[Aerows]

105. They ripped a few idiots limb from limb in the streets...

...including Spartans. Oppress your wives, your sisters and your daughters enough, and your civilization falls. Men seem to think that war alone determines a country, then they start getting the idea that repressing women allows them to rule in their tiny fief. Women get tired of that, and once they do, you have unrest from within and without.

[WatsonT]

115. I don't think that would have worked back then

A) women were property so their consent wasn't really needed and B) well you know the ancient greeks and pederasty . . no need to go further in to that.

[cali]

12. the ladies who are with men who want to shut down planned parenthood

likely also want to shut it down. If you think it's only men pushing this hideous shit, you're wrong.

[JuniperLea]

16. They have theirs...

They don't care about yours. Same ol' story.

[blondeatlast]

47. Leave 'em to each other--that oughta end that idea but quick. nt

[FiveGoodMen]

14. Excellent suggestion.

Not that the Stepford Wives will take it.

[Taverner]

17. "Just say NO to sex with Pro-Lifers!"

A great bumper-sticker I saw once...

[malaise]

18. Love it

:D

[seabeyond]

19. no. sex is not a weapon. not gonna promote this. think absurd and ridiculous

we are absolutely supporting womens role as merely sex when we do ridiculous movements like this.

i have never heard a man protesting by demanding or NO SEX

[Scuba]

21. I tried it once, but after a few minutes I gave up. n/t

[Aerows]

23. Men can't protest by demanding or no sex

That's exactly why it is effective.

[seabeyond]

27. of course they can unless you are suggesting women are really asexual only doing it for the man

do you not want, like, crave, desire sex? a man can say no just as easily as a woman

ridiculous

[Aerows]

103. Good, let them

I can function just fine without procreational sex.

[seabeyond]

104. ya, ok, so? nt

[Taverner]

24. But sex IS a weapon

As much as we may not want that to be the case, it is a very effective weapon for some women and some men

Denying that it's true is just that - denial

Now how to use said weapon for the greater good? I smell a bumpersticker...

[seabeyond]

28. ya, there are all kinds of "weapons" people use adn i CHOSE not to play fuckin games

especially one that reinforces women's worth is her sexualilty bullshit

[Taverner]

52. I dunno, saying that using sex as a weapon reinforces that woman's worth is sex is like...

Telling someone a soldier's worth is their rifle...Full Metal Jacket notwithstanding...

[seabeyond]

61. i kinda believe tht a woman can get her point across using her brain, kinda like we expect from our

men. same means as our men. what a thought. i guess you are suggesting we need to strip down, or withhold to have any kind of influence at all.

sad, tav, sad.

[Taverner]

63. It will never be "just your brain" as much as it will never be "just sex"

It's a combination of all of those things, intellect, sexuality (which I am convinced uses the brain far more than the genitals - think about that) and confidence

A persuasive individual uses all three, whether they are male or female

Kind of hard to explain, but you probably agree with me more than not...

[seabeyond]

66. you are telling me, our males protest thru sex? would that be the raping in their pillaging of war

statement? raping in military to keep women out?

where are they using sex, either by strippin or sex to get their message out there?

should women be using her sexuality to get what she wants from hubby. do this, buy me this or you dont get?

how about using sex to get that promotion in work?

[Taverner]

69. That's a different horse altogether

Rape has more to do with a Violence Fantasy than it does with sexuality, although arguments can be made for both...

Sex for a promotion? I am not endorsing that, just acknowledging that it happens. And I don't like it any more than you.

I am a realist. When things happen, yes I get mad, but I don't deny that they are happening.

I think you may have missed my point.

Should women be using her sexuality to get what she wants from hubby? In an ideal world, no. But we don't live there. Let me know where that is, because I'd like to go too.

[seabeyond]

72. all i was doing is opposing the use of sex as a weapon. i have ALWAYS been disgusted

listening to women do this. even young, i thought it disgusting. one of the things women do that make. me. mad.

[malaise]

73. You are missing the point

It has always been used as a weapon or as a means to getting what whoever wants

[seabeyond]

78. you... are missing the point. how horrible to use sex as a weapon. i dont care women use sex thru

out history... i have ALWAYS thought it wrong.

[Taverner]

74. Yes, but can you blame them?

Step back for a second - imagine you are a twenty-something intelligent female. No men take you seriously, even though you know more than most men in your position. You use sex to sell an idea - doesn't matter how you do it, but that you use sex to 'sell' it. They go along with it, and you are promoted.

You and I both agree that its wrong, and she should have let her idea stand on its own merits. But if you were that woman - you want to succeed and not be relegated to the copy room.

And, being that woman, if you don't do it, someone else will. Someone who might not be as talented, as smart, etc.

Yes, it can be very frustrating. And yes, it sucks. But with businesses OBSESSED with the bottom line as they are these days, it takes something - and you're right it doesn't have to be sex - but something to make them focus on something besides the bottom line.

[seabeyond]

79. yes... i can blame them. YOU take a step back. i WAS in the work force

at 20 and times, not taken seriously and i had to make the conscious choice to push harder, work harder, be more impressive to get what i want. NOT use sex

we want equality. to use sex pushes us away from what we strive for. it results in the opposite of what we fight for.

how smart is that?

[Taverner]

80. Look - I understand where you're coming from

And yes it sucks, but if you really want to change things you have to make the system eat itself, if you know what I mean

[seabeyond]

81. every time we use sex in this manner we work AGAINST what we fight for. equality. it makes NO

sense to choose an action that will ultimately harm our goals, creating inequality and create a regression in what we are fighting for.

[Taverner]

82. Do you think men don't use sex as a weapon?

Yes, its a shallow concept, but we aren't that removed from our lizard brains

You should see how men act in a sales environment - its so homoerotic at times, you'd be surprised these were Corporate Lovin' Captialists

Sex is more a part of our world than you would think.

[seabeyond]

83. ah, come on.... you know what i am talking about. we can stop here

cause really, once again, we get each other.

[Missy Vixen]

65. Any woman that sleeps with a man who shows by his attitudes and his voting record

hates women has no self-worth. Suggesting that women who care enough for themselves and their own reproductive freedom choose men that are supportive of her values is doing it "wrong" makes me wonder what your agenda is.

Furthermore, any woman of childbearing years that has anything at all to do with a Republican male in this climate is insane, IMHO.

[seabeyond]

68. what are you accusing me off, my agenda? troll? living in the panhandle of texas

i assure you the people fighting anti abortion and planned parenthood the hardest are women and they are married to the men that oppose abortion. i dont know of any woman who believes in choice that is with a man that is anti choice.

agenda?

because i refuse to use sex against a man? i have an agenda?

[Missy Vixen]

89. The people fighting Roe v. Wade and PP the hardest are MEN.

Those insisting Planned Parenthood be defunded are MEN. You might want to watch the news, or pick up a newspaper. The anti-choicers are primarily MEN.

Also, again, any woman who chooses to sleep with a Republican, let alone marry one, needs a reality check. Republicans believe women are liars, can't be trusted with their own reproductive freedom, and must be controlled at all costs. They are taking health care away from women.

You also might want to give Laura Bush a call -- she claims to be pro-choice, while her husband is a forced birther. It happens more than you might think, and as far as I'm concerned, I'd applaud any woman who cuts off a guy who believes she's too stupid to have dominion over her own reproductive system and health decisions.

[seabeyond]

90. all this visceral anger because... i don't believe in using sex as a weapon? really?

can you get anymore snotty in your comments.

go at it hoss

really surprised to see how many progressive women are into using sex as a weapon. really thought we were beyond the fifties

point. every repug woman is as aggressive going after womens health.

and why the hell would you auggest i call up laura. you are the one suggesting it is not about the repug women, too

[Missy Vixen]

93. "Sex as a weapon"?

Get over yourself. It's about any woman protecting herself from involvement with someone who hates women. Why should she have sex with any person who believes she's too stupid or inept to have dominion over her own body?

You claimed it's Republican women who are spearheading this battle. Anyone who's watched media over the past 30 years knows this fight has been funded by (and driven by) MEN.

[seabeyond]

94. i made no such claim women are spearheading. i did state the men who are anti are sleeping with the

woman who are anti. adn living in panhandle of texas, the woman who are anti are damn aggressive.

and yes

vixen

using sex to get what you want

a huge ass

whatever

want to promote using sex to get what you want, go for it. i dont believe in using sex to get what you want.

[Taverner]

92. Reality: Some men want to use the law to entrap women

I am a man

I have heard enough guys reason it this way

"Well she's Christian, so we gotta have the baby!"

And thus, the poor girl is stuck with Gomer for the rest of her life....

[seabeyond]

95. having talked to so many anti choicers, i conclude it is punishing the female for daring to have sex

for the men and the women believe is is killing a baby.

the men tend to let go of rape and incest cause after all, the woman did not want the sex, rollin eyes. still "murder" but sanctioned.
but the women say no, cause they see it as murder

[Taverner]

100. There is definitely that

[Aerows]

108. Well

I accuse you of being a self-hating misogynist if you are a woman. That's just me, however. You and I have tied up over many different posts, and you seem to think men are saints and women are categorical sinners, even when it's things like men beating the hell out of women, or being rapists, so I call it like I see it.

[seabeyond]

109. because i think women should not use sex to get what they want i am self hating misogynist? LMFAO.

and the men on du would be L(their)FAO if they read your post saying i dont think they do any wrong. what a hoot you are.

but... you become a bet sick stating i defend men raping and beating women. that... is purely sick on your part.

give me a link. to your lies. put it out there. show me. where have i defended men beating and raping when.

[Aerows]

112. I am going to do the wisest thing in the world

and put you on ignore.

[seabeyond]

114. goodie... wink. nt

[malaise]

77. +1,000

:fistbump:

[Aerows]

107. That person

has repeatedly shown themself as a person that is a misogynist. I hate to be that blatant in saying it, and it might get me banned, but at this point, I really am so disheartened I don't mind telling it like it is.

Seabeyond ALWAYS defends men, as though they are fragile creatures that deserve special treatment. Defending the dude that punched a 100 pound woman into a coma like he was justified. Defending rapists like they are misunderstood.

Hate to say it, but when you see a track record, you have to point it out.

[seabeyond]

110. Seabeyond ALWAYS defends men....when you see a track record

hm

what i have noticed about your posts is an inability with reason

[Codeine]

25. I think I tried that once.

She just shrugged and said "Okay." :rofl:

[seabeyond]

31. lol lol. and probably women would get a lot fo that, too. as much as men will yell and hollar

otherwise, it is stupid to suggest a man will change .... position.... because his woman says no

ya ya ya we will all pretend otherwise

gotta keep up appearances

[Brigid]

64. We need to bring back the DUzy's.

:rofl:

[TheKentuckian]

26. Tit for tat thinking is usually desperation or poorly thought out.

Women should stop mating with fucktards who roughly consider them property though.

[EFerrari]

30. Mating is even only part of it.

There's all kinds of work that correlates the well being of societies with how well they treat women.

[seabeyond]

34. your tit for tat comment makes no sense. and i agree, the people that are anti abortion

are probably having sex with people tht believe in anti abortion. like generally hang with like

[malaise]

37. Planned parenthood is a weapon though

Just say to to ReTHUG men

[Aerows]

20. When Medicare/Medicaid pays for Viagra

and not the results of those damn erections, like needing birth control, something is wrong in our country. Why male virility is more valued than a woman not needing an abortion to begin with is beyond me.

It's patriarchy and stupidity rolled into one.

[malaise]

40. Absolutely correct

So tell the to 'Shut 'er Down'

[Nye Bevan]

117. Women who think that viagra only benefits men

clearly don't have great sex lives.

[leveymg]

22. That strategy is at least 2500 years old, but a real goody. ;-) Lysistrada - Make Love Not War

[Brigid]

32. Ah, yes, the old the "Lysistrata" gambit.

It never fails. :evilgrin:

[w8liftinglady]

33. Malaise... it would be a very brief shutdown. They typically

spend less than 30 seconds trying to invade a woman's body.


which is why Republican men make such crappy lovers.

[malaise]

42. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaah hahahahaha

Hilarious! Choking with laughter! :rofl: :rofl:

[blondeatlast]

50. Thread win--and that's saying something on this very funny (and true) thread! nt

[Teaser]

35. thanks for the clarification

.

[BlueIris]

36. Don't need that reminder, thank you. Why would anyone fuck an anti-choicer? nt

[janet118]

38. That would not affect tea baggers or Repug men anyway . . . n/t

[dhill926]

39. ok.....ok!

I signed the damn petition already! Sheesh......

[Broderick]

43. What should

a man do if his wife is a Republican supporter. Shrug.

[malaise]

57. Share no goodies!

Shut down!! Gridlock! Deadlock!!! :evilgrin: :rofl:

[Broderick]

70. lol. I think us men have too short of attention spans. Well just me

[Hutzpa]

44. Very Unfair

because there are women within the GOP who supports removing PPH, you can bet on that.

[malaise]

58. Most of them have lousy sex anyway

:rofl:

[Hutzpa]

60. hahahaha

lol

[janet118]

46. Whoa!! Flashback . . .

Joan Baez and her sisters Mimi Farina and Pauline Marden made this poster for Vietnam draft resistance movement

[malaise]

54. Wow - thanks for this

:applause:

[socialist_n_TN]

56. I remember that poster........

Very clever. I thought so at the time.

[musette_sf]

102. Ah, yes,

I had a little discussion with a newcomer gentleman caller in one of our DU Ladies' groups last week about this poster and campaign.

Goodness me, the poor lad was all overheated over his idea that this ad and campaign were about offering a "prize" of "trophy women" to "draft dodgers".

I tried to explain to him about Joan, Mimi and Pauline; about Joan's anti-war activism and marriage to a draft resister; and about how I saw this as nothing even vaguely resembling "trophy women" as "prizes", but about idealism and ethics. But he just wasn't having any of it.

Dear me.

[socialist_n_TN]

48. Your headline scared me for a second......

until I read the body of the post. WHEW! I'm safe! :)

Morever, I agree.

[malaise]

55. LOL

:rofl:

[davidthegnome]

62. Interesting idea...

You know, maybe I'm pulling this out of my ass, but I've got this theory that republicans are absurdly undersexed. If only gawd would let them jerk off... maybe they wouldn't be such assholes.

[hayu_lol]

71. Planned Parenthood offers low cost/free pap smears...

how many more deaths will be the result of defunding them?

[davidthegnome]

76. I can't answer that

All I've got left is either laughing or crying, I have no real answers and not much hope.

[malaise]

75. They're obsessed with sex

but they hate it and it hates them. They're really bad at anything that natural or fun.

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

84. I counter your suggestion with porn.

[seabeyond]

85. ya, but see, that is the thing with repug man. he doesnt need, want woman, just porn is enough

for them, hence their ability to attack women at all points...

[JuniperLea]

87. Wanting porn over a real woman is the saddest thing I've ever heard...

Truly pathetic even.

[JuniperLea]

86. We could get Anonymous to hack all porn sites...

If you're nice, we'll just block them to Republican IP addresses, you know, where most of the porn goes anyway.

[Angry Dragon]

99. Utah has the highest pre capita rate for porn for all states

[Incitatus]

88. I doubt the Ted Haggards Mark Foleys and Larry Craigs and most of

the family values hypocrites would mind.

[Lyric]

91. Okay--I will officially refuse sex with all men who oppose my reproductive rights.

Not that it's much of a sacrifice for me, considering that my girlfriend and I have been together for about 12 years now.

:evilgrin:

[malaise]

96. LOL

:rofl:

[MoonRiver]

97. Even if I hadn't been happily married for 20 years,

my body would never voluntarily touch one of those slime balls. I :puke: at the thought.

[Warren DeMontague]

98. I guess that explains why I get laid so much.

And here, I thought it was my charming wit.

[Raine]

101. I would NEVER be involved with such a man in the first place

I don't even have male acquaintances that are that kind of neanderthals. :puke:

[EmmettKelly]

111. Worked before

[malaise]

113. Bwaaaaaaaaah hahahaha

:rofl:

[WatsonT]

116. Oh god!

That looks like an ad selling alcohol rather than a legit argument for prohibition.

"Wait, so you're saying I can get hammered and not be forced to make out with them? Sure, sounds good to me"