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drokhole Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:24 PM
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Exactly what "concessions" have been made for these fucking insane "Policy Riders"?
Has anyone heard? Because each one of them, by and large, sounded pretty fucking crazy:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=844500&mesg_id=844500

Planned Parenthood, albeit important, seems to be a calculated distraction from some of the other large issues at hand. Like blocking the FCC from implementing Net Neutrality, and defunding the EPA? Just what in the fuck have we conceded?!
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:25 PM
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1. This was a masterful move by the GOP.....put in riders they know won't fly to get the cuts they
really want.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:55 PM
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15. There you go. Spinning their disappointment as a win for them,
A "masterful" win.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:08 PM
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16. No, they're going to pretend to be disappointed. GOPers are masters at getting exactly what they
want because the "leaders" in our party let them.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:14 PM
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17. Oh, I see.
My bad.
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Skip_In_Boulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:26 PM
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2. Is it cave time again? n/t
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northoftheborder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:27 PM
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3. Obviously, no one here knows what has happened to all the riders.
where could we go to find out how they have been used in the "negotiations"??????????
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:29 PM
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6. One thing we do know...they damn sure ain't EASY RIDERS!
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drokhole Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:44 PM
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13. Lets just hope they're all GHOST RIDERS!
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:31 PM
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18. That is lovely, thanks.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:28 PM
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4. Although I'm encouraged that we seem to have dug in our heels, I'm afraid to
find out what we HAVE conceded.

This is like watching election results -- the wait is killing me!
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:07 PM
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19. Here...

already passed by the House.


The full list of policy riders in HR1 includes: (from http://www.ombwatch.org/files/budget/OMB_Watch-HR1_Poli... ):

Policy Riders in H.R. 1

Sec. 1284 - Prohibits funding for fresh fruits and vegetables in the school lunch program. under section 19 of the Richard B. Russell National School Lunch Act.

Sec. 4013 - Prohibits funds to the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, Inc., or any of its affiliates.

Sec. 1112 - Prohibits transferring detainees from Guantanamo Bay.
Sec. 2237 - Prohibits HUD funding for rental assistance to the elderly.
Sec. 4006 - Blocks the FCC from implementing Net Neutrality.

Sec. 1802 - Prohibits funding new Job Corp centers.
Sec. 4017 - Strips funding for any provision of the health care reform law.
Sec. 4030 - Prohibits BATF from collecting information on multiple rifle/shotgun sales to the same person.

Sec. 1590 - Prohibits DC from using its own, non-federal funds, for abortion services.
Sec. 4046 - Prohibits finding for a govt-sponsored consumer product complaints database
Sec. 1746 - Prohibits funding for EPA efforts to regulate greenhouse gases

Sec. 4027 - Prohibits funds to carry out medical loss ratio restrictions in the health care reform law. (These provisions require insurers to spend at least a certain percent of their premium revenues on medical care.)

Sec. 4009 - Prohibits funds to pay the salaries and expenses of the following Presidential czars: Obama Care Czar, Climate Change Czar, Global Warming Czar, Green Jobs Czar, Car Czar, Guantanamo Bay Closure Czar, Pay Czar and Fairness Doctrine Czar.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:33 PM
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20. Is 4009 a joke? It's all a joke, really, but you know what I mean. nt
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:28 PM
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5. thought they all had been abandoned except planned parent hood one nt
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Skip_In_Boulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:29 PM
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7. Fromt the Twitter machine
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 07:37 PM by Skip_In_Boulder
marcambinder Marc Ambinder
by DavidCornDC
$514b in defense spending, $39b in cuts, no PP rider -- WH is reviewing this framework from GOPers and Dems mobile.nationaljournal.com/white-house-re

Also:

thinkprogress ThinkProgress
RT @daveweigel: Susan Davis and Dan Friedman scoop the latest deal: Planned Parenthood traded for another $1bn cut http://bit.ly/hcTWUh
6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:31 PM
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8. If that rumor is true,I'll be heading over to watch freeper heads
explode.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:35 PM
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10. Don't worry you can stay right here and watch DU heads
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 07:35 PM by Solomon
explode as they spin this as a complete cave in by Obama.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:35 PM
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12. That's a given with some. nt
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Skip_In_Boulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:35 PM
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11. That is always fun to do.
They were talking some smack earlier that it was about the money for Republicans but that the Dems wouldn't compromise, which was long after the Dems had agreed to the money, but no, it wasn't about PP at all.

We'll see how that plays if this does go through.
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mikiturner Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:34 PM
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9. Politico says
"The sources did not provide POLITICO with any other details about exactly what the breakthrough is on the policy riders, the most controversial of which involves defunding Planned Parenthood. However, Democratic officials familiar with the talks said Republicans had backed down, and that alternatives such as a standalone vote or a study on Title X funding may be offered as a concession.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0411/52798.html#ixzz1IyvDC8kx"
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drokhole Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:46 PM
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14. thanks for the link. n/t
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