How much did Democrats surrender in this budget negotiation for the "victory" of

[Pryderi]

not shutting down the government?

[gateley]

1. We'll have to wait and see, won't we. nt

[Tx4obama]

2. Earlier on the news they said .....

that a lot of the cuts that the dems agreed on weren't actual cuts to current spending but cuts on proposed increases of spending.
So we might not have lost too much of what we currently have now.
After we take back the House in 2012 and get more Senators elected, Obama will be able to get a good budget passed :)

[Iris]

8. thanks for your optimism.

On that upbeat note, I'm going to bed! :hi:

[Tx4obama]

9. Sleep well. :) n/t

[left is right]

3. does your post

mean that I am not laid off?

[notadmblnd]

4. I think the number is 78 billion

is that what you are asking? don't know about all the other riders, but cutting planned parenthood is out.

[Arkana]

6. The cuts are about half that number and the Planned Parenthood

and NPR riders are out.

No budget that passes this Congress is going to be good--we can only hope for one that's less bad.

[Pryderi]

14. That was one of the things I was looking for. So the teabaggers got 78% of what they wanted. Dems

suck at negotiating.

[Pryderi]

16. So between Obama and the Teabaggers, the total amount of the cuts is $178 billion

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/04/08/6436913-we-have-an-agreement-

In a joint statement, Boehner and Reid said:

“We have agreed to an historic amount of cuts for the remainder of this fiscal year, as well as a short-term bridge that will give us time to avoid a shutdown while we get that agreement through both houses and to the President. We will cut $78.5 billion below the President’s 2011 budget proposal


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/13/obama-budget-proposal-cut_n_822689.html

Obama's new budget puts forward a plan to achieve $1.1 trillion in deficit reductions over the next decade, according to an administration official who spoke to the Associated Press on condition of anonymity in advance of the formal release of the budget.

Those reductions -- averaging just over $100 billion each year -- are achieved mainly by squeezing social programs.

[bluestateguy]

5. I'll wait for the facts (not the rumors) to find that out

nt

[butterfly77]

7. Here is some..

and the Dems think they did a good job...



The full list of policy riders in HR1 includes: (from http://www.ombwatch.org/files/budget/OMB_Watch-HR1_Poli ... ):

Policy Riders in H.R. 1

Sec. 1284 - Prohibits funding for fresh fruits and vegetables in the school lunch program. under section 19 of the Richard B. Russell National School Lunch Act.

Sec. 4013 - Prohibits funds to the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, Inc., or any of its affiliates.

Sec. 1112 - Prohibits transferring detainees from Guantanamo Bay.
Sec. 2237 - Prohibits HUD funding for rental assistance to the elderly.
Sec. 4006 - Blocks the FCC from implementing Net Neutrality.

Sec. 1802 - Prohibits funding new Job Corp centers.
Sec. 4017 - Strips funding for any provision of the health care reform law.
Sec. 4030 - Prohibits BATF from collecting information on multiple rifle/shotgun sales to the same person.

Sec. 1590 - Prohibits DC from using its own, non-federal funds, for abortion services.
Sec. 4046 - Prohibits finding for a govt-sponsored consumer product complaints database
Sec. 1746 - Prohibits funding for EPA efforts to regulate greenhouse gases

Sec. 4027 - Prohibits funds to carry out medical loss ratio restrictions in the health care reform law. (These provisions require insurers to spend at least a certain percent of their premium revenues on medical care.)

Sec. 4009 - Prohibits funds to pay the salaries and expenses of the following Presidential �czarsŽ: Obama Care Czar, Climate Change Czar, Global Warming Czar, Green Jobs Czar, Car Czar, Guantanamo Bay Closure Czar, Pay Czar and Fairness Doctrine Czar.

[Tx4obama]

10. That list NOT from the final agreement.

THAT IS NOT THE FINAL AGREEMENT!!!

[Kablooie]

11. That narrow area under the bus is pretty full already. Wonder who's gonna join'em?

[newspeak]

13. well let's see

on Rachel they had Barney Frank who discussed some of what the repugs wanted--money for cotton in Brazil, not US, but Brazil-of course there was the military budget couldn't get enough of that and cuts to government agencies that will add thousands of people out of work, especially out of a decent job which is hard to find these days in this country. Yep, that's really going to help the economy--maybe wall street but not main street.

We are so screwed it's not funny--is anyone for the american people? All I see is a bunch of sociopathic greedy repukes who want to cut anything that will actually help the elderly, the disabled, children or families who have lost everything because of the economic downturn, and want to give the wealthiest (who already have gained exponentially) and corporations everything. We can drink contaminated water like those soldiers were fed in Iraq by one of the no bid corporations only interested in a buck, we can breathe contaminated air as long as they make a buck and hey, we don't need no stinkin USDA, just buyer beware. I'm waiting for the corporations to treat us like they do in some other countries, like the woman on the assembly line in Mexico who was miscarrying and they wouldn't allow her to go to the bathroom. I'm waiting for someone, anyone to realize we're becoming one of those banana republics through shock and awe--wait until the repukes finally kill any form of organize labor and the dream of being the only party is realized--what do we call it then?

[Zorra]

12. Not sure, but I can't find the kids anywhere,

and there's a big black car with government plates driving away.

[high density]

15. I don't think anybody knows

Boner, et al will draft up the crap this weekend so they can follow their "72 hour" rule.