Well the Freepers are claiming the Dems got a win in the budget deal.

[Skip_In_Boulder]

To: Lazamataz
Just go away, Boehner. Thanks for handing the scum zero and Reid a victory so they can parade about on TV. Grow a pair, you weakling.


3 posted on Fri Apr 08 2011 21:28:46 GMT-0600 (Mountain Daylight Time) by SoCalConstitutionalist
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To: Lazamataz
To OHIO FREEPERS:
Is anyone up for helping to Primary Boehner?

Cheers!

4 posted on Fri Apr 08 2011 21:28:49 GMT-0600 (Mountain Daylight Time) by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2702072/posts

[TheWraith]

1. We did. The cuts may not be to our liking, but the Reps blinked hard.

And it's going to piss off the hard right, particularly the anti-abortion people and the Teabaggers.

[Dawson Leery]

2. Public sentiment was rightly with giving responsibility

of a shut down to the GOP.

[TheWraith]

10. That's exactly why they cracked.

They may be assholes, but they're not all stupid. They remember 1995, and how Clinton came out clean, while the Republican Congress got hammered. And they know that Obama is every bit as good as Clinton was and probably better.

They let the Tea Party push them into a no-win situation. Either piss off the far-right base by making a deal, or piss off a hundred million Americans when they didn't get their mail tomorrow.

[Skip_In_Boulder]

4. Well if it pisses them off

then I am all for it. :toast:

[frazzled]

3. Apparently--here's what each side got

Details from the New York Times updated one minute ago:

Democratic officials said Republicans agreed to drop their demands that funding be stripped from groups that provide abortions. And Democrats also succeeded in preventing Republican efforts to limit the Environmental Protection Agency's regulation of greenhouse gasses.

In exchange, Republicans got a larger cut in overall government spending than Democrats had wanted. The Democrats agreed to increase the total amount to be cut in exchange for Republicans accepting cuts in Pentagon spending that had been in Mr. Obama's budget.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/09/us/politics/09fiscal.html?hp

The EPA thing is huge actually, as are the cuts to the Pentagon budget that the President requested and the Republicans opposed.

[Skip_In_Boulder]

6. But I thought the government was already prohibited from

funding abortions. Isn't that what the Hyde amendment from some years back was about?

[Fuzz]

11. Yeah, but the r's are playing politics with it, making is sound as if

funding an organization that provides pregnancy termination services, even though it's only 3% of their overall services, means that federal funds pay for the procedure, when it does not. Their constituency doesn't understand the difference.

[TheWraith]

12. You're correct. Federal money can not be used to fund abortions.

However, what the Republicans wanted was to eliminate any funding which went to any organization which was involved with abortion, even if the federal money was strictly used for family planning, contraception, prenatal healthcare for pregnancies going to term, etcetera.

[frazzled]

17. The Planned Parenthood thing was about ...

(for the Republicans): not funding any organization that provides abortions, even if the government money wasn't going to abortions per se. Fortunately, Democrats and the President stood fast on that one. And we also won the EPA being able to regulate carbon emissions.

I don't think anyone knows any of the details of this yet. And, of course, it still has to pass Congress. But what I'm getting is that we're cutting a lot---but not necessarily from the places the Republicans wanted it cut. Obama is getting his cuts to the Pentagon.

I'm not good at math, but it seems like the cuts will amount to about 7% of the proposed budget for this current year. Now, if we can raise taxes ... we'll end up with a fucking surplus.

[Skip_In_Boulder]

19. don't think anyone knows any of the details of this yet.

That's the only reasonable truth I can take away from all the stuff that is flying around tonight. It may be several days before we know all of what really happened tonight.

But I am concerned because the Democratic leadership has a proven track record of caving. Sorry if that offends anyone but that's just the way it is.

[Mojorabbit]

20. Yes the EPA thing is huge

I am sure that the defunding of the health care bill did not pass. Hopefully it will not be too bad.

[tnlefty]

5. And once again I don't care what those twisted fucks

have to say. If I were truly interested I'd just go talk to my neighbors. Twisted fucks are twisted fucks.

[Skip_In_Boulder]

9. I prefer to hear what they have to say through a remote media

To listen to them face to face I am just sure I will cold cock one of those fuck heads. I just don't talk to them anymore.

[tnlefty]

25. I've stated it here and in real life and I never gat an answer to

this question:

How are the teabaggers different from your average southern republican. I can't get an answer from my dem friends, from family members who refuse to vote repuke anymore...

They are just louder and more aggressive, period. And I'm still surrounded by a bunch of them. They take advantage of the social programs that they want to defund, so I say cut off their funding.

I noticed a track of road and railroad tracks 2 springs ago had recovery.org signs up. Later I noticed that another part of the same road has been under construction for one and a half years, same sign. There are recovery.org signs on 2 different parts of Battlefield Parkway in GA, so I hope the anti stimulus crowd isn't driving on any of those roads and will never aqain!

The teabaggers are phony, stupid, and louder than your average southern republican, and that's saying something.

[spooky3]

21. actually, I enjoy hearing that they are POd

[SDuderstadt]

7. Could be a wedge to...

drive between the GOP and the Tea Party.

Good.

[Earth_First]

8. Holy shit!

If Boehner is GOP-lite, W(ho)TF DO they want running this country?!?

[Fuzz]

13. lmao, yeah, when Boehner is too liberal for them we've got major enemies.

[TheWraith]

14. Michelle Bachmann. Sarah Palin. Rand Paul. Those are the Tea Party's people.

Or who they think are their people.

[bluestate10]

15. sounds so DUish. Except from the other side. nt

[and-justice-for-all]

16. The only thing good about it the rider got dumped...

other than that I cant see anything more positive about it.

[ProSense]

18. Because Boehner

was in a corner

I'm pissed about Demcorats helping the GOP to save face with those bullshit votes, but Boehner got nothing.

The teabaggers are probably going to call for his head.

[bullwinkle428]

22. The Freepers are wrong about everything; ergo, we're fucked.

[Aerows]

24. My assessment, too

[Aerows]

23. You can't spin this

no matter how hard you try, and they are trying to spin it in the favor of the oligarchy, as usual. I don't even know why I am giving a shit anymore.

[treestar]

26. Extremists on both sides

See everything as a "loss" and blame others for it. It's amazing how much they have in common. Boner not conservative enough for them? :rofl: