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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 08:31 AM
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So DC -- where exactly is the *Shared Sacrifice*?
WHERE is the announcements about cut backs to Congressional, Senatorial and WH salaries? Does the Federal pay freeze apply to YOU?

Do you really think the American public is going to buy this abhorrent talking point when YOU do NOTHING to *share the sacrifice*?

Or have we gotten to the point where we have what our Founding Fathers did not want -- a nobility class that deems itself untouchable?

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spedtr90 Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 08:38 AM
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1. Right wing dictionary
Shared sacrifice: the corporate class and their political pals sharing what the lesser people sacrifice.

Unfortunately this dictionary seem to be on the President's bookshelf too.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 08:38 AM
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2. An article yesterday, stated that 2/3 of the cuts were on the backs of the poor & middle class.
Compassionate conservatism at work.

Assholes.

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marew Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 09:13 AM
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3. You got that right! n/t
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 09:54 AM
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4. neither Obama nor any congressperson are sharing ANY sacrifice here nt
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 10:00 AM
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5. as far as I know, Congress did not get a pay raise this year
and the President has not gotten a raise since 2001. http://www.lib.umich.edu/node/11736/
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 10:42 AM
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13. So? Not getting a raise is NOT sharing the sacrifice.
Taking a pay CUT would be sharing the sacrifice. Giving up the leased vehicles, the gas allowances, etc., would be shared sacrifice.

Not taking a pay raise? pffffttttt....
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 12:42 PM
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14. Really?
Because in your OP you said this "Does the Federal pay freeze apply to YOU?"

and their pay was actually frozen before the other Federal workers.

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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 01:15 PM
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15. really? Got a link to prove theirs was *frozen*?
Seriously, if you want to play with words, show it or stow it. Show where EXACTLY their pay was frozen, and if it is in the same ruling freezing everyone else's pay.

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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 02:55 PM
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18. it's in one of my first links
Presidential pay has not changed since 2001, Veep pay and cabinet pay since 2003, and Congressional pay did not go up by November of 2008 (do I need to include a link for the Constitution?)

Also, Federal Pay was not completely frozen, since they still get automatic step increases periodically.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 02:29 PM
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17. let's face it, they don't become millionaires based
on their salaries. Their salaries are not that important. The donations and perks, however, that's another story.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 10:07 AM
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6. We have a nobility class of corporations and their whore politicians
who shakedown the citizens of this country as often as they possibly can.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 10:22 AM
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9. I think we have politicians who are deluded into thinking they ARE nobility
And therefore do not HAVE to sacrifice.

Yeah, they are whores -- but whores with a Napoleonic complex.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 10:08 AM
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 10:20 AM
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8. you've hit on a point that infuriates me
IF there is supposed *shared sacrifice* -- why are we not hearing about it? It would be a fabulous PR piece, and make folks feel better about taking it in the neck.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 10:22 AM
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10. Right here..
The full list of policy riders in HR1 includes: (from http://www.ombwatch.org/files/budget/OMB_Watch-HR1_Poli ... ):

Policy Riders in H.R. 1

Sec. 1284 - Prohibits funding for fresh fruits and vegetables in the school lunch program. under section 19 of the Richard B. Russell National School Lunch Act.

Sec. 4013 - Prohibits funds to the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, Inc., or any of its affiliates.

Sec. 1112 - Prohibits transferring detainees from Guantanamo Bay.
Sec. 2237 - Prohibits HUD funding for rental assistance to the elderly.
Sec. 4006 - Blocks the FCC from implementing Net Neutrality.

Sec. 1802 - Prohibits funding new Job Corp centers.
Sec. 4017 - Strips funding for any provision of the health care reform law.
Sec. 4030 - Prohibits BATF from collecting information on multiple rifle/shotgun sales to the same person.

Sec. 1590 - Prohibits DC from using its own, non-federal funds, for abortion services.
Sec. 4046 - Prohibits finding for a govt-sponsored consumer product complaints database
Sec. 1746 - Prohibits funding for EPA efforts to regulate greenhouse gases

Sec. 4027 - Prohibits funds to carry out medical loss ratio restrictions in the health care reform law. (These provisions require insurers to spend at least a certain percent of their premium revenues on medical care.)

Sec. 4009 - Prohibits funds to pay the salaries and expenses of the following Presidential czars: Obama Care Czar, Climate Change Czar, Global Warming Czar, Green Jobs Czar, Car Czar, Guantanamo Bay Closure Czar, Pay Czar and Fairness Doctrine Czar.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 10:24 AM
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11. the original posting was asking where DC itself (Congress et all) was personally sharing sacrifice
We already know most of what is being taken away from the middle class.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 10:24 AM
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 02:28 PM
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16. Have you met Ms. Judy Peaches yet? She's learning all about "shared sacrifice."

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labor4ever Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 02:59 PM
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19. The details are alledged to be coming out during the course of next week
Hopefully it will be posted online at an official site. I am not sure why it hasn't already, but maybe it has, and I just don't know... anyone have a link?
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