If they want cuts give them cuts - an excellent idea from Daily Kos.

[TheBigotBasher]

Fuck the Tea Party Terrorists, almost literally

Suggest to the House membership that no Sate can get more back from the Federal coffers more than it contributes to the Federal coffers.

Take their agenda and put it to use on them, for a damn change...

...then watch the Republican House membership (the ones with functioning gray matter, anyway), especially from the South & West, turn green; though it won't be from envy...

At this point in time, I've little faith in any reasonable discussion of the Federal budget, so I'll go for political "gamesmanship" which is one big "F-U, teabagger freaks!" Cut off the "welfare" to the majority Repugnant Red "welfare" States and see how they enjoy having their own "austerity philosophy" shoved right up their collective asses.

Let those legislators go home and explain their support for austerity while cutting the heart out of their own States.

I'm so done giving a rat's patoot about being reasonable and adult.

From this
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/04/09/965119/-We-need-a-budget

[SheilaT]

1. Perfect!

It's amazing to what extent these idiots don't understand what they actually get from the federal government.

[Dawson Leery]

2. I am all for ending ALL subsidies to the teabagging mafia.

[msongs]

3. Great idea, let's slash benefits to all house districts represented by republicans nt

[The Magistrate]

4. A Thing Of Beauty, That, Sir

It would ruin the states of the south and west where Republicans dominate.

[bluestate10]

7. Exactly. And states like California, Illinois, Washington would solve

their budget deficits within two years while maintaining services to the poor people of their states.

[bluestate10]

5. I totally agree. No state should get back more that 100% of federal

taxes in benefits. If said states have government facilities, those facilities should be the first closed under budget cutting until that amount the state gets back from the Feds is 100% or less of federal taxes paid. Democrats must put riders into bills when republicans stuff in riders like aid cuts to the poor or elimination of PP, OSHA or the EPA. Democrats must attach the riders such that if one rider stays in the bill, all stay in the bill. It is time to fight fire with fire. Democrats mostly represent blue states, with precious few from red states. Blue states are federal tax donors by a large margin. The reddest red states are big tax beggars, it is time to call the bluff of representatives from those states. And while democrats are at it, attach riders that dictate that every state must get back a minimum of 80% of what it pays in federal taxes, with the past condition that no state gets back more than 100%.

[Epiphany4z]

6. why not go for things like

Abstinence only..and watch repubs heads blow up

[calimary]

23. YES! We must cut THOSE programs too!

NOTHING is off the table, correct, teabaggers? Okay. You get your wish. Game on!

[Tx4obama]

8. They need to cut the $64 billion in subsidies that the oil companies get. n/t

[bluestate10]

9. Don't suggest. Attach riders to bills and keep attaching the riders

to bills. If republicans want to kill housing for the poor in Illinois and California, why shouldn't a representative from one of those states attach first a rider that says no state gets back less that 80% of what it pays in federal taxes, and second, no state gets more that 100% of what it pays in federal taxes back from the Feds. Attach riders to bills to close federal government offices and military bases in states that are getting more than 100% benefit until that benefit drops to 100% or less. If democrats do not start attaching riders to bills and leaving that to republicans, democrats can expect to fight the PP funding and affordable housing battles every budget cycle. Where is Nancy Pelosi on this issue? At every mention of SS cuts, Pelosi goes ballistic, she should know as leader of House democrats that red state, teabagging voters collect the overwhelming majority of SS funds. Yet Pelosi reflexively fights to protect SS, even as the protection she provides ends up coming back to screw the democratic party and wealthy, mostly progressive and educated states like hers.

[Snotcicles]

10. What? and make them start taxing those foreign auto makers they gave all that free land to? nt

[indy legend]

11. These are all excellent Ideas but that would require the dems

we elected to grow the spine or the sack we've been waiting to see for two and a half years now and..........well good luck with that. A boot on the throat of these right wing mother fuckers would have finished them for good but we had to "compromise" and "reach across the aisle" and here we are with the mother fuckers who have been doing their damnedest to destroy this country since 1980 back to setting the agenda with no end to their trail of misery,stupidity and destruction in site and we have no one but the gutless leadership we gave an unprecedented majority to work with 2 and a half years ago for it, and their unprecedented ability to piss away a golden opportunity to move us forward. An opportunity I fear I will not yet see again in my lifetime. Thanks for the fucking change.

[theaocp]

17. Couldn't have put it better meself.

Gracias and well-fucking-said. :toast:

[indy legend]

21. Thanks. It's good to know I'm not alone in this oppinion.

[fredamae]

25. You'd think that IF the Dems were to present cuts like this to

the teaconipubs that all but the Corporate reps would be all over this, in support..and "some" actually are there to end all gov't spending, (a bad idea for good reasons)...
It would be the perfect opportunity for dems to gain the publicity and political advantage. Plus, we'd actually start balancing the budget.

[indy legend]

26. What makes you think the dems want a political advantage?

We gave them an unprecedented political advantage 2 and a half years ago and they have spent every fucking minute of it compromising, giving in, and pissing it away.

[jwirr]

12. That is a very good way to handle the cuts.

[ladjf]

13. That's funny. My father suggested the same thing sometime

around 1950. He claimed that the states that gripped the most about big government and govt interference with our rights were the very ones that gained the most from the federal govt. in relationship to what they contributed.

[I Drink Water]

14. I like it, but GOP would never go for it since Blue states fund Red states.

the GOP are not ideologues, as some suggest. They are self-seeking.

[misanthrope]

15. Though I'm in one of the most egregious transgressors...

...this is a splendid idea! I'm absolutely fed up with listening to these ingrates carp about the federal government and condemn the very expenditures they exploit. Screw 'em, I say. Let 'em live without for a while and get a taste of what they advocate.

[JoeyT]

16. +1

I've been saying this for years. My state gets damn near 2 dollars for every dollar it puts in. If they could only get back what they put in, they'd STFU in a hurry.

[Search4Justice]

18. Great idea, but I'll believe it when it happens, not before. n/t

[Motown_Johnny]

19. I've been saying that for years

and posting it here for almost as long


I get slammed with things like "poor people depend on those funds".

The focus needs to be on removing pork projects and money for things like improved roads, not for welfare or food stamps.

Allowing states to have full representation while taking from the federal government more than it contributes amounts to representation without taxation (on a state level).


I'm glad someone else posted this, a bit late but better late than never. We should have done this as part of the fight against the extension of the Shrub tax cuts.

[RevStPatrick]

20. Does anyone have a fairly current chart...

...showing what states currently pay and receive back from the federal government?

And I do think this may be a good idea, at the least as a suggestion to watch heads explode!

[calimary]

22. I LOVE IT!!!!!

I'm with you COMPLETELY, TheBigotBasher!

At this point in time, I've little faith in any reasonable discussion of the Federal budget, so I'll go for political "gamesmanship" which is one big "F-U, teabagger freaks!"

That certainly would give other states a break, mostly the blue ones that wind up paying more into the Federal Treasury than they take out in welfare and other government programs and benefits.

[fredamae]

24. A short list off the top......Cuts

Selective Service $23 Million
Cannabis Eradication Programs $14 to $40 Bn
Repeal the tax cut extension $700Bn (?)
Drastically cut military contracts $ (?)
End both oil and ethanol subsidies $(?)
End all federal agriculture subsidies $(?)
Congressional pay cut by 25% & Inc their health care contributions by 8%
End corporate tax loopholes
Start getting revenue from both on and offshore oil drilling on and in US Territories.

I can't freekin' believe I forgot the Wars! Get out of the wars.