New bills in Alabama would grant personhood at the ‘moment of fertilization’

[dixiegrrrrl]

Arrghhhhhhhh.

Alabama lawmakers last week introduced three heavily-sponsored bills that in concert would change how a person is defined in the state and potentially make abortion in all circumstances illegal.

Senate Bill 301, introduced by Sen. Phil Williams (R-Cherokee, Etowah), is a proposal to amend the Alabama Code of 1975 to change the definition of the term “person” to mean: “any human being from the moment of fertilization or the functional equivalent thereof.”

Rep. John Merrill (R-Tuscaloosa) filed an identical personhood bill in the House on Thursday, House Bill 405. But taking a step further from just amending the state’s legal code, Merrill also filed House Bill 409, which is a ballot proposal to amend the Constitution of Alabama of 1901, so that every time the word “person” is used in that document it would include “‘all humans from the moment of fertilization.” If HB 409 goes forward, Alabamans would have the opportunity to vote on this amendment either in special election at the end of the year or in 2012.

These bills, which have been referred to the House Health committee, both have 31 co-sponsors, which, according to the attorney Ben DuPré of the Foundation for Moral Law, is “astounding” and a good indication that the laws will pass. according to the attorney Ben DuPré of the Foundation for Moral Law, is “astounding” and a good indication that the laws will pass. DuPré and the national organization Personhood USA helped draft the earlier versions of the legislation, though several anti-aboriton rights groups, such as Alabama Citizens for Life, have backed the bills.

http://www.americanindependent.com/177085/new-bills-in-alabama-would-grant-personhood-at-the-moment-of-fertilization

The Foundation for Moral Law?????
Personhood USA????

Talibornagains, indeed.

[cali]

1. stupid fuckwads keep passing one idiot unconstitutional shit law after another

[kristopher]

3. I hate to say this but what makes you think this USSC will rule it unconstitutional?

The American Taliban is taking on an entirely too real meaning.

[Syrinx]

4. I don't think cali said that

What the constitution says and what the USSC says it says are two different things.

[kristopher]

7. I think that was my point...

[Syrinx]

11. agree

I didn't actually hear your tone of voice. :hi:

[cali]

17. familiarity with the court

and its members as well what cases they take.

[Syrinx]

2. as predicted...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=137x5403

[dixiegrrrrl]

5. All that work in the 70's being erased.

[eShirl]

6. Will women of childbearing age have to prove they're not pregnant

each time before they're *allowed* to do certain things, such as buy/consume alcohol, cigarettes?

[CantAffordBootstraps]

8. Then when does corporate personhood start?

At an LOI? Term sheet? When EIN is assigned? Isn't this contrary to the recent SCOTUS decision of personhood?

Only when it's convenient!

[Vinca]

9. I guess the bill would be a boon for funeral directors.

It's common knowledge that many fertilized eggs do not become implanted in the uterus and wind up going down the drain with the menstrual flow. Next up a bill to examine all sanitary pads and tampons?

[phylny]

23. I would take out a million dollar life insurance policy on each

fertilized egg.

I'd be three million dollars richer in my lifetime, since I miscarried one single pregnancy, and one twin pregnancy.

Let's see the life insurance companies in Alabama refuse to cover the fertilized egg, aka "person."

[WinkyDink]

10. This exact moment is impossible to determine (or so I've thought).

[dixiegrrrrl]

12. By definition, IUDs would be illegal as a birth control method.

[my2sense]

13. umm...so how is it that the PERSON is allowed

to use another person's body, nutrients , etc. to survive if not wanted? The gov't needs to stay away from a woman's uterus as they clearly don't give two shits about the "Person" after it is born..

[RagAss]

14. Only if it's incorporated.

[hayu_lol]

15. Good for the dummies...Law Of Unintended Consequences...

On state income taxes, people can now claim the extra dependent right from the start...and mothers on aid can increase their welfare checks...plus whatever other quirky things develop.

These fundy legislators 'down there' really do work hard at being stupid.

[spanone]

16. this country is out of it's fucking mind

[RBInMaine]

18. No, the RIGHT WINGERS are out of THEIR fucking minds. The rest of us are pretty sane.

[dixiegrrrrl]

19. altho living here, surrounded by Regressives, can drive ya around the bend slightly

(speaking for myself, of course)

[felix_numinous]

20. Women have to start from scratch

all over again,speaking out, educating, marching, and basically making a big stink.

And we better start this summer, make our demands for 2012 CLEAR One of them will be-Women's Rights for 2012!

[Boojatta]

21. Did the legislators say anything during the debate about ...

Christianity?

If they did, then did they specify whether they define the concept of Christianity based primarily on the Bible or based primarily on teachings of the Roman Catholic Church that aren't in the Bible?

Perhaps I could try to answer my own questions by starting here:

http://www.legislature.state.al.us/

[Cairycat]

22. I think they also want to use this to outlaw birth control

People like this think that the pill and other hormonal birth control, and IUDs are abortifacients. No amount of science will convince them otherwise. So I would not be surprised if that is another goal for the bill.

edited for typo

[QED]

24. Is the embryo tax deductible?

If it's a "person" it certainly should be.

No, I don't agree with this - it's an unconstitutional and reprehensible attempt by the pro-fetus crowd. (Don't call them "pro-lifers" since they are horribly inconsistent on this, i.e. pro-war, anti-child, etc.)