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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:05 PM
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Trump Insists Obama’s Grandparents Planted His Birth Announcement To Obtain Welfare Benefits
Edited on Sun Apr-10-11 07:06 PM by kpete
TRUMP: The grandparents put that (birth announcement) in (the newspaper) because obviously they want him to be a United States citizen because in those days, people were much more proud than they are today unfortunately for being a United States citizen.

So they wanted him to be a citizen of the United States, for that purpose, and also for hospitalization, for welfare, for this, for that, for all the other assets you get from being a United States citizen. So there are a lot of very smart people who say that is routinely done and that was done by his grandparents. <...>

CROWLEY: I will tell you we’ve checked with both these papers early on — not to the latest when you brought it back in the headlines — but the fact is that the hospitals reported this information to the papers, and the papers printed it.

TRUMP: Who knows? You’re talking fifty years ago.

more:
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/04/10/trump-birth-announcement/
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missheidi Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:08 PM
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1. I wish the media would stop paying him attention...
so he could go away already! :dem:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:10 PM
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2. Wow, he's taking the racist act to the extreme.
Is it an act?

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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:12 PM
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5. Probably
He's in sales...he has to have a gimmick to sell a crappy product...in this case himself.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:28 PM
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11. No one acts like a racist.
Call it whatever, opportunism, callousness, insensitivity, he's a racist clown.

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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:11 PM
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3. So how many dog whistles has Trump used in the past week or two?
Edited on Sun Apr-10-11 07:12 PM by ecstatic
Actually, no--dog whistles tend to be silent, almost undetectable. With Trump's use of glaring code words like: "Welfare," biggest scam in history/biggest con in history--he's not exactly being discreet with it.

Pathetic!
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Terra Alta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:12 PM
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4. Yep, Trump, it's all just one big conspiracy isn't it?
:eyes:

I wish he would just shut up and go away.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:12 PM
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6. Oh, did they have a big welfare program going in Hawaii in 1961?
Really?
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wilt the stilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:16 PM
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7. Hey you rich prick.
I would like to see how far you would have got if you were born a minority with no money. My guess is nowhere.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:25 PM
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8. Yeah, because we all know...
that the Welfare system then, and now, is so STUPID that they accept newspaper announcements instead of actual birth certificates (or certified copies) in order for people to get benefits.

I was out to breakfast this AM in the tiny little restaurant in my tiny little town where old men hang out and discuss politics. A couple of them...not generally known for being very liberal were discussing that issue. But you know, even THEY were disgusted by the attention being paid to it. As they said, there are so many other more pressing matters going on in this country, and what does Donald Dead-Orangutan-On-His-Head Trump think up? More birther bullshit.

I really had to laugh...

:7

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Holly_Hobby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:26 PM
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9. Where can I see a copy of the cert of live birth?
My personal bc is fake, I was adopted by my step father in 1957. They wanted to keep it a secret from me, so they doctored my bc.

My bc has no signatures. In the space where the doctor and dept of health director signed is just typing of their name rather than a signature.

I have compared mine to my husband's, which is authentic, and that's the only difference is the typing of signatures.

I'd like to look at Obama's if anyone knows where I can see a copy. I believe he was born in Hawaii because of the hospital announcement, which isn't given to the newspapers by grandparents, the newspaper gets it from public records.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:58 PM
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15. Here's a link
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Holly_Hobby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 08:11 PM
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19. Thanks for the links
The only difference in mine and my husband's cert of live birth to Obama's is signatures of the delivering doctor and a health dept. official. Like I said, mine has only typed names instead of sigs because mine is truly fake to show my step father as my bio father.
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:27 PM
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10. Talk about WELFARE....he made a ton of personal money and claimed corporate bankruptcy and owed
no one ANY of his personal wealth..then did it again and again till he was SUPER wealthy...DUH...THAT IS WELFARE!
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:29 PM
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12. What a disgusting man.
:puke:
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:44 PM
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13. None of that would have been necessary to obtain welfare benefits.
His mother was a citizen so he was a citizen. There would have been no need to fake his place of birth.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:53 PM
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14. How many past Presidents have had their Mother portrayed as a criminal & liar by the other party?
Now they are going after his Grandparents too.

A few First Ladies have been attacked but I don't ever remember the other party going after the Mother or Grandparents of a President.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 08:00 PM
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16. Does the hospital have billing or medical records to end this damn story? n-t
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 08:02 PM
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17. Did anyone ask him why the mom flew to Kenya in the first place?
The burden of proof for answering that is on the birthers. The father was in Hawaii, the mother was in Hawaii, the grandparents were in Hawaii.
Why would they all pick up and fly to Kenya and then plant a birth announcement in the Hawaii newspapers - doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
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DianaForRussFeingold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 08:03 PM
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18. Hmmm.. I believe Medicaid wasn't even enacted until 1965!
from link; "Yet, as Crowley pointed out, the birth information printed in the Honolulu Advertiser always came directly from the state health department (via the local hospital), not Obama’s grandparents or relatives. It’s also worth noting that since Obama’s mother was a U.S. citizen, he was automatically conferred citizenship and all of its “assets” no matter where he was born, thus making him eligible anyway for the benefits Trump claims his family committed fraud to obtain."

I think it's just pathetic...
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 08:51 PM
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20. haven't seen the name of a former 1/2 governor of alaska here lately
would like the same to happen to a crazy, right wing. rich heir from NY.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 09:43 PM
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21. Aren't you born a U.S. citizen automatically if one of your parents was a citizen?
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 10:09 PM
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22. Classic isn't it
Obama should be able to get the Doctors names, the nurses names, the costs, from 50 years ago but when the proof is on his side he can claim it was a long time ago.

To boot they have upped the ante with the Black man on welfare theme.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 10:13 PM
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23. I think the doctor dropped Mr. Trump on his head...
and obviously his hair is still sticking to the floor.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 10:16 PM
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24. Who knew that Trump would represent the crazed wing of the republican party?
This birther stunt seems put-on.
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