Is cutting Medicare and Medicaid a Democratic value?

[FLAprogressive]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-politics/8441448/Barack-Obama-to-propose-health-care-cuts.html?sms_ss=email&at_xt=4da211bc2a8ac8af,0

[ProSense]

1. Is posting RW spin over and over progressive? n/t

[FLAprogressive]

2. Right-wing spin? Cutting Medicare and Medicaid is right-wing, yes.

[ProSense]

4. .

Bah!

[Harmony Blue]

3. This is a line the sand that has to be drawn

because it has implication for the creation of universal health care down the road. It is a forgone conclusion that it will happen, as I talk with many of the younger generation who embrace the idea of universal health care. Currently, though the Tea Party wants to turn the clock back, that is why they are considered anti-progressive. To be progressive you have to look forward to the future.

[Terra Alta]

5. cutting programs for the poor and elderly has never been a Democratic value.

It is strictly a Republican one, and it is sad to see Obama giving in to that.

[JanMichael]

6. Absolutely not. The "screw entitlements" camp must somehow not really give a shit about....

....real fucking people and their issues.

[Raine]

7. The day it becomes a Democratic value

is the day I will leave the party.

[patrice]

8. Is pretending that you know the exact definition of "cutting" & that there is shared agreement about

that definition with all persons who answer "No" a Democratic value?

[patrice]

9. Is pretending that there are no cuts that will benefit those being cared for a Democratic value?

[patrice]

10. Is pretending that the cuts that will benefit those being cared for don't matter a Democratic Value?

[Bluenorthwest]

11. No it is a Republican desire, not a Democratic value.

[al_liberal]

12. It is now.

Now that we completely failed on health care reform. If we'd been able to eliminate private insurance we'd be money ahead. Of course we can't say socialized, or government run, or anything implying that everyone would be covered. There is too much money to be made in insuring us for anything close to this to happen. So we'll continue to pay corporate insurance and be subjected to corporate death panels. And we'll scream "YEAH FOR AMERICA" because we're not socialists. "yeah, woohoo, we have teabags on our hats"

[leftstreet]

13. +1

[markpkessinger]

14. Under this President, we no longer have values -- we have "pragmatism" instead n/t

[FLAprogressive]

16. +1

[upi402]

15. yes and no

yes now
and no before 'it' happened

[mmonk]

17. No not historically. That is a dyed in the wool Republican position.