Is this tea party underground?

[Thunderstruck]

Why are some of you promoting the tea party as if they are a real political organization? They are a construct of Kock Industries.

There's even a post here announcing their rally in some stupid town. STOP promoting them! STOP giving them legitimacy!

[Tippy]

1. Agreed

[L. Coyote]

27. The "tea party" is a disassociation device to rebrand the far right as "Not Bush"

because Bush was dragging the Republican Party into the ditch, and they needed an alternate idenbtity disassociated from the heavy yoke of Bush's extreme disfavor with the American public. The so-called "tea party" is a propaganda strategy devised to circumvent Bush negativity.

[movonne]

2. ++++100000000000.00

[DireStrike]

3. I'd say the only reason to post about their activities would be to organize counterprotests

It should be easy enough to outnumber them...

[jillan]

6. +1

[lamp_shade]

Sorry. Counterprotesting only gives them legitimacy. Leave them alone.

[Thunderstruck]

14. Exactly. Thank you.

[Motown_Johnny]

19. I disagree. I think counter protesting them is a good thing

IMO they are ignorant and honestly believe that they are somehow speaking for a majority.

Showing them that most people do not agree with them is a good thing and doing anything, within the law, to make their protests a little more difficult can't do any harm.

Screw 'em. They are bullies preying on the weak and need to be stood up to.

[lamp_shade]

23. You're entitled to disagree with me.

[LaurenG]

4. That subject line is insulting

what is wrong with people? If you don't like something here just hide thread or use ignore. Sheesh nannies abound.

[Thunderstruck]

8. Why should I take extra steps to avoid seeing information about a astroturf fake

assed "political party" that doesn't even deserve a mention much less a running of their calendar of events? This is DEMOCRATIC Underground. NOT tea party underground.

Edit: punctuation

[LaurenG]

10. True and I could have just hidden this thread. nt

[mkultra]

22. ahh the counter-nannie nannie post

[LaurenG]

30. yes and I caught myself..

:P

[mkultra]

36. so you did. Bravo

[Peacetrain]

5. Makes you wonder sometimes doesn't it..

Where peoples heads are..

[mmonk]

7. Wrong forum.

[Search4Justice]

9. I can't say that I've noticed ..

.. any "promoting" of Teabaggers, but I could have missed it. Got some links to add some meat to your accusation?

[Thunderstruck]

12. They are a corporate entity. Any mention of them is a promotion.

[Search4Justice]

32. Nonsense, I don't agree.

Nor will pretending the nutballs don't exist make them disappear.

[Posteritatis]

13. Lots of people, sadly, equate mentioning something at all with promoting it. (nt)

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[Search4Justice]

31. Ahhh.. I see..

... calling people insane is "promoting." Ya larn sumtin' new everday.

The second link does seem out of place here. (Oh and BTW, the "rec" was at zero on this one. Not exactly a glowing "promotion.")

AS for "many others?" Show 'em, instead of making a completely unsupported claim, please.

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[patrice]

28. ding!!!

[Search4Justice]

34. Thanks for the warm welcome.

[emulatorloo]

11. True, Koch Brothers willed it into being. Now it is "real"

It is a collection of John Birch Society types, Birthers, and assorted wingnuts.

Media has "mainstreamed" it.

[ananda]

15. The tea party is a Fox/Koch/media creation.

Just as Sarah Palin and her ilk are.

Ignore.

[harun]

16. They are not grass roots, they are an astro-turfed creation of the Corporate Media,

Koch, Defense Industry Conglomerate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

[Bluenorthwest]

17. They are the Republicans. There is no Tea Party.

Yet DUers will post that the Republicans are dealing with the Tea Party as if they were actually not the same, as if the Tea Party had a national convention and would run a candidate against the GOP! Hilarious, except that they are helping the Republicans sell their rebranding.

[randr]

20. The true nature of the teaparty--Kochroaches

They must be equated with their overlords.
"Tea Party" is a perversion of patriotic appeal. They are far from patriotic.

[salinen]

21. I'm guilty

But I think it's important. Could we find that kind of Money? Could we own media? Could we organize? Could we have influence for once? I don't know either. It's worth investigating. Otherwise, welcome to Ameritucky.

[TheKentuckian]

26. No, we can't access that money. No, they aren't going to sell us their media.

If we gain such influence it will be because we took it because party insiders and big money is not going to lift us up by the astroturf.

It is important to grasp that the whole deal is artificial and that they are the on string of Republican party power brokers.

[zbdent]

24. how can it be an "underground movement"

when it has constant presence in the media? In other words ...

how can we miss it if it won't go away?

[patrice]

29. Agree. and will comply. nt

[Pisces]

33. It sure feels that way some times.

[patrice]

35. Yes, there is at least a 50:50 probability that is true or will be true soon. nt

[jeff47]

37. Ignoring a problem never makes it go away.

Gore "ignored" a lot of the crap thrown at him. Result, W "elected".
Kerry ignored the swift boat crap. Result: W "re-elected".
Obama has mostly ignored the birthers. They're still here, and being a birther is now a requirement for the Republican nomination.

Ignoring only works when the group in question is tiny and without political clout. Once a group reaches a certain size, or gains political clout through spending, ignoring will not work.

The media will cover tea party protests, no matter how small. Because they've bought political clout. Ignoring them will not make them go away. Exposing them, and their ideas, will destroy them.

[snooper2]

38. Some people are obsessed with teabagging

:P

[Taverner]

39. Because they are taken seriously by the media

And as long as they take them seriously, we have to understand that many uninformed Americans are taking them seriously as well

Denial, no matter how comforting, is still willful ignorance

[librechik]

40. people just post Tea party stuff so we have an opportunity to mock them again

but you could be right. Perhaps never mentioning them at all is a better strategy.