'Conscious Men' apologize to women for the last few 1000 years or so...

[Cid_B]

A group calling itself Conscious Men is apologizing to women for thousands of years of lousy behaviour, including burning them at the stake, prostitution, rape, genital mutilation, political and economic inequality and relegating them to “subservient chores.”

“We stand before you today as men committed to becoming more conscious in every way,” one man reads from the group’s manifesto. “We feel deep love, great respect and a growing sense of worship for the gifts of the feminine. We also feel deep sorrow about the destructive actions of the unconscious masculine in the past and present.”

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One would think women would be thrilled, but apparently they’re mostly just creeped out, with commenters tearing a strip off the men for being too “new-agey” on Jezebel. Others accuse the Conscious Men of being macktivists (that’s espousing a cause for sex).

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/conscious-men-apologize-to-women-for-many-years-of-bad-behaviour/article1973897/

Youtube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_uRIMUBnvw

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Wow... definitely not surprised at the negative reaction to this video from men and women....

[Drale]

1. Its Youtube,

its not the place to get constructive criticism. People become horrible racists when they know it's anonymous.

[Zanzoobar]

2. If that's the alternative, I'll hang on to my sloping forehead.

What a bunch of dickwads.

[Cid_B]

3. Wow...

I think that's why the comments were shut down.

They are really creepy though...

[Zanzoobar]

5. If I ever heard a guy talk like that to one of my sisters

I'd wring his goddamned neck for him after she was through wringing his goddamned neck for him.

[seabeyond]

6. i dont get what you are talking about, or why this angry. what did i miss. nt

[Zanzoobar]

9. The condescension is off the scale

The skeezy presumption is revolting.
The boundless simpering is disgusting.
The heartless aching is repulsive.

It fills me with the urge to deficate!

[seabeyond]

11. hm. nt

[Abq_Sarah]

12. It fills me with the urge

To shake them and demand..... what in the hell is wrong with you?

[Renew Deal]

19. Welcome to DU!

:rofl:

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

54. "It fills me with the urge to deficate!" - As long as you put the toilet seat down when you're done,

I guess you're good to go...

:popcorn:

[WatsonT]

56. I would hope that it would be down already

in that scenario.

[seabeyond]

4. "Should men be apologizing for the actions of a few?" a few? really?

no worship. that is part of the whole issue anyway. i thank them for what they are saying, and the intent.... but no worship. and i will not worship men. respect, love works well and is good enough for me.

i dont know what the group is about but the woman saying "feminist chose to compete with men and silly in even trying" bothered me.

but yea

;ets be conscious

[Countdown_3_2_1]

7. Apologizing for the actions of those long dead feels somewhat hollow.

Its too easy.

Actions speak louder than words. Treat a gal with respect and you're far more likely to get laid than with a silly apology for historical events.

[Countdown_3_2_1]

8. Maybe the gals can accept the apology with what men really want

Pizza and beer! and other stuff....

if we get that, then we'll make the apology video you gals really want: 1000 years of leaving the seat up.

[seabeyond]

10. this is the stupid in this argument, to denigrate males to this level

it really fools no one to suggest this is all males are after. pizza, beer adn sex... rollin eyes. it is just beyond ridiculous playing the old tired over used conditioning that harms all of us so much.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

57. True...

What good is all that without Halo on Xbox360

So I guess you'd have to add Halo to the list to really make it enticing to all guys.

[provis99]

16. treat a "gal" with respect?

How about by stopping calling women "gals", or "dames", or "broads"?

[Countdown_3_2_1]

20. Well, its better than sweetcheeks. Or would you prefer, "Honey?"

There is a nifty new thing out there called a "Sense of Humor." Go to the store and get one.

[WatsonT]

35. Dames or broads?

I think you're stuck in the 50s.

Gal is just a corruption of girl. Not offensive, similar to calling someone a guy or dude, or whatever.


Calling females something other than "womym" isn't de facto insulting.

[Shiver]

13. Little late, fellas.

I already apologized for all that five years ago.

No, it didn't get me laid, but I did get some making out. :hide:

[rurallib]

14. wonder if they pick up their dirty underwear and leave the toilet seat down?

That may be too much work.

[Berserker]

15. If you

don't want me to piss on the seat lift the fucker up when your done. I hate that shit. More men bashing.:evilgrin:

[cherokeeprogressive]

17. Yeah it pisses me off when they leave the seat down too...

My ex wife told me it all stemmed from her wish not to have to touch the thing at all. So, I started putting the lid down as well as the seat. Such a pretty cover on it, why hide that?

That REALLY pissed her off. Talk about not catching a break...

[OxQQme]

18. Heh...no mate

my toilet seat is spring loaded to stay up unless I'm sitting on it.

[badtoworse]

22. My wife wants the seat and the lid down

I tell her she should learn how a toilet seat works - if it's up, you just put it down. Simple

[lunatica]

24. It's about how some fellas can't aim worth shit and how disgusting it is to

accidentally sit on it in the dark in the middle of the night.

[badtoworse]

25. That's true, but in fairness, it's hard to miss when you're shooting at point blank range.

I know what you mean about sitting on the cold porcelin. I've done it on rare occasions and it is gross.

[seabeyond]

26. in our 17 yrs of marriage and two sons we have NEVER had this discussion

for the most part, all put seat back down and we go on with life. wow, lol

[badtoworse]

29. I'm amazed. I would say you are in a small minority

[seabeyond]

31. we really dont make to do's out of most all the stuff i hear people banter about

hubby and i dont like conflict and tend to want best for each other. when both are doing for each other instead of self, both get taken care of pretty well.

no gripe here.

[badtoworse]

33. Sounds like you have a great marriage - good for you!

[seabeyond]

40. i figure it is as easy as it gets....

living with another.
i am all for easy.

[lumberjack_jeff]

48. At night, I make a point of having the seat down.

The rest of the day, you should expect to look first.

Although I'm lucky in that sense since my wife was raised with three brothers and we had only sons.

[badtoworse]

23. You must be a joy to live with. Do you fart in bed too?

[cleanhippie]

30. When it comes to farting in bed, ther are two types pf people...

Those that do it and those that lie about it.



Which are you?

[WatsonT]

36. I have constructed a special airproof chamber

in my house with a negative pressure and air lock.

It costs a bit but compared to the alternative I think it was a good investment.

[badtoworse]

46. I am a truthful person

[lumberjack_jeff]

55. three types.

[Mojorabbit]

59. It took me decades to break my husband of that. LOL nt

[WatsonT]

37. Saying it's too much work to leave the toilet seat down when you're done

is proof of being lazy and inconsiderate.

But making a big deal out of having to lower it because you can't be troubled to look first is not lazy or inconsiderate.


Makes little sense to me.

How about everyone, regardless of gender, check first and make sure the toilet is in the proper configuration for their current needs?

And hey, complain too much and I'll just use the sink. :evilgrin:

[Taitertots]

21. People who didn't do anything wrong apologizing to people who are not victims...

For stuff that happened before any living person was born. Sounds totally foolish to me.

[seabeyond]

28. rape doesnt happen today? it isnt a means of war? govt isnt actively going after women issues

today?

[WatsonT]

38. If they committed rape

then a youtube apology is insufficient.

If they didn't then apologizing for someone else is meaningless.

Genocide and slavery go on today, I'm not going to personally apologize for either.

[seabeyond]

41. racism exists today and though i am not personally responsible

i have empathy, compassion adn understanding when addressing the issue knowing that it is my race that is creating the problem. there is a lot of anger with christians today and though i am not a part of the problem, i understand others anger and address it with my own.

[WatsonT]

42. Being empathetic

and taking it upon yourself to apologize for others are two different things.

[seabeyond]

44. ok. i can even say that i do apologize. a nmber of times. to different people for different reasons

really is not a big deal, nor hurftul to myself, nor leave myself in a position of accepting the behaviors of others.

but

it does open dialogue and understanding and the concept of the other person being heard and validated. that is the important thing.

damn straight i apologize for what mine do.

[Taitertots]

58. It does, but they were not the people who need to apologize for it

And the intended audience is largely not the people who deserve an apology.

[Odin2005]

27. This guy asks what these slacktivists are doing to help the plight of women on a practical level?

I've volunteered at a rape and abuse crisis center, which is a lot more than what these folks have done, I bet.

[AngryAmish]

32. I'm glad they did it.

THat way I'm off the hook and can now act any way I want.

[WatsonT]

53. You can always blame these guys for your actions

if they protest just point out that by apologizing for all men they have accepted responsibility for the actions of all men.

[WatsonT]

34. I guess it's good to get an outsiders perspective on what it means to be a man

those guys were creepy.

Equal parts self-loathing and desperate ploy to get laid.

[aikoaiko]

39. "worshipping the divinity expressed in masculine and feminine energies"

:puke:

[WatsonT]

43. Yeah it's a cult

and a pretty lame one at that.

I'll take voodoo any day.

[Blue_Tires]

45. "macktivists"? lol

I was always looking for a word to describe that...

[lumberjack_jeff]

47. You've atoned enough.

You're 5x as likely to be unemployed.
You're 50% less likely to go to college.
You're 10x as likely to die on the job.
Your health insurance went up 35% this year.
You'll die first.

Douchebags. There's a fine line between being insincere to get laid and making an ass of yourself.

[badtoworse]

49. I don't think there is any question which side of the line these guys are on.

[Deep13]

50. Pretty sure I didn't do anything misogynistic 1000 years ago.

To the extent I did anything misogynistic within the last 43 years, sorry about that.

I think the use of the word "worship" is a bit mawkish.

[Keith Bee]

51. Puh-leeeeeeeeze!

:puke:

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

52. Alternative: I'll apologize for my own actions as needed. I am not culpable for actions of ancestors

This ranks right up there "White Guilt" - lol