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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 09:50 AM
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S**t on a shingle: "Student cringes at an enchilada dish served at his school"
Chicago school bans some lunches brought from home
To encourage healthful eating, Chicago school doesn't allow kids to bring lunches or certain snacks from home — and some parents, and many students, aren't fans of the policy

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/education/ct-met-school-lunch-restrictions-041120110410,0,4567867.story?page=1



A Little Village Academy student cringes at an enchilada dish served at his school. Many students throw away their entrees uneaten and say they would rather bring food from home. The school, though, does not allow students to bring in their own lunches, unless they have a medical condition or a food allergy. (Monica Eng, Chicago Tribune / February 17, 2011)

Fernando Dominguez cut the figure of a young revolutionary leader during a recent lunch period at his elementary school.

"Who thinks the lunch is not good enough?" the seventh-grader shouted to his lunch mates in Spanish and English.

Dozens of hands flew in the air and fellow students shouted along: "We should bring our own lunch! We should bring our own lunch! We should bring our own lunch!"

Fernando waved his hand over the crowd and asked a visiting reporter: "Do you see the situation?"
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 09:52 AM
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1. look at that -- i'd cringe too. nt
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 09:52 AM
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2. That's an enchilada?
Looks more like a pile of puke. The kids have a point.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:13 AM
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18. Right? I remember my school lunches in the UK being dreadful..but at least they looked like food...
...that is, as you so accurately pointed, a pile of puke..
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 06:25 PM
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74. Pile of puke?
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 06:26 PM by Vattel
No, they call it "the Chef's Surprise." On Tuesdays they serve a delicious Chinese entree, "Hang Chow," a dish they learned about when they were talking on the big phone to China. On Wednesdays they offer "Tummy Omelettes" with "Carrot Broth," and for desert "Tossed Cookies." Thursdays are more casual, as the kids enjoy "Floor Pizza," and on Fridays they honor religious diversity by praying to the Porcelin Goddess before serving something mysteriously called "Chundered Yak."
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 07:38 PM
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82. looks like an enchilada that's been sloppily spooned from the pan
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:50 AM
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88. It's a delightful enchilada stew.
Kind of like what Miss Muffet enjoyed.
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Moondog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 09:53 AM
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3. That looks like the classic "dog's lunch".
And why is this happening?

Follow the money. By which I mean the federal funding that goes to the school for lunches served.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 09:53 AM
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4. That's no enchilada
It looks more like some weird casserole with tortillas chopped up into it.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 09:55 AM
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7. Some industrial form of "Hamburger Helper"...
...I'm sure the school's "chef" didn't spend hours hand-rolling enchiladas in the back room. Dump in the box, give it a stir, lunch is served!
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:00 AM
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11. Weird, since they're so easy to make
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 10:01 AM by PVnRT
1. Cook meat and veggies
2. Put meat/veggies in tortillas
3. Wrap tortillas
4. Put cheese and sauce on rolled tortillas
5. Bake to melt cheese
6. Serve

In fact, a lot of this type of Mexican food (not traditional entrees, but quesadillas, tacos, etc.) are ridiculously easy to make, and can be done cheaply.

EDIT: typo
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:16 AM
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20. Jinx.
Totally agree, enchiladas are super simple to make. Quick too, by design.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:35 AM
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40. It's the potato salad syndrome
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 11:35 AM by OnionPatch
For some reason, delis all over the country just can't get simple potatoes and mayonnaise right, either. I'm thinking they're adding some sort of preservatives or stretchers in both cases.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:15 AM
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19. Hand rolled enchiladas are quick, easy and cheap.
Probably quicker, easier and cheaper than the corporate slop on those plates.

Real food isn't hard to make, it's just that districts and corporations don't let it happen. See Jamie Oliver's show for proof.
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:51 AM
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34. Its probably manpower. Making real food requires actually cooking. The hamburger helper crap is

"just add water".

One part time employee could prepare enough of that slop to feed hundreds of kids in just a few minutes. Bring in some jail trustees or community service workers to clean up and wash the dishes.

All so the Kock brothers, Donald Scump, and the like can get another tax cut.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:01 PM
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45. Sure it's an enchilada--
I'm sure that's what they look like, in a toilet....
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 03:22 PM
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61. It really is an enchilada - according to Hamburger Helper - no, really... behold:




MMMMMM - yummy. :sarcasm:
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 03:49 PM
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62. I can't tell if that's before or after digestion. n/t
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 04:00 PM
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63. I wonder if they have an "Unnaturally Flavored" version.
I hear "Naturally Flavored" and I immediately think about the George Carlin riff about "jumbo shrimp."

:rofl:
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:37 PM
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52. School enchilada = beans and meat, in a bland sauce, with corn chips mixed in, topped with cheese.
They serve the same thing to the kids at my wifes school. All of the teachers are required to eat the school lunches because they "have to set a good example for the kids", and she hates the stuff. Their "pizza" is even worse (a bland flatbread with unspiced tomato sauce over the top, covered in artificial cheese).

My wife teaches at a school that is about 2/3'rds hispanic, and they jokingly refer to it as the mierdalada.


Interestingly, her principal, who created the "teachers must eat it" policy, leaves campus almost every day around lunch time for "meetings".

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Chef Eric Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 07:06 PM
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76. ¿Mierdalada? ¡Muy cómico! nt
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 07:31 PM
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81. It's a space station?
:rofl:
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 09:54 AM
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5. So, is that photo before he ate it, or after he threw it up? nt
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 09:55 AM
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6. Multpile dup
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 09:57 AM
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8. Simply put, I believe the principle at that school is getting kickbacks from Chartwells-Thompson.
Banning home lunches means more money for the one provider of slop in CPS, Chartwells-Thompson, and increased costs passed on to the taxpayers and further strapping each school's already stretched budget. This means, basically, they'll spend money force-feeding garbage to the kids, while music teachers, art teachers, and librarians will get cut to afford this shit.

My kid goes to a CPS school and every year it seems more like daycare than education. Like all things in Chicago, its a racket to fleece the citizens. And nobody is serious about dealing with our problems.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:13 AM
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17. Das ist ein Bingo.
:fistbump:
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:37 AM
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30. ...
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:19 AM
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21. I believe you are probably correct.
Otherwise there is no logic or common sense involved.
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exboyfil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:20 AM
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22. How do you feel about the opportunity for school choice?
A voucher for your child to attend the school of your choice.

Any chance to get caring parents onto the school board (if that is the problem) and make changes to the system? What is the per pupil spend in CPS - is it a matter of insufficient resources?

Out of control school districts that do not meet the needs of the children (irrespective of whether the problem is administration or teachers) fuel the push for school choice.

The NEA wants to stack the deck completely against any sort of school choice. One of their resolutions state-

"Instruction should be by persons who are licensed by the appropriate state education licensure agency, and a curriculum approved by the state department of education should be used."

It is not sufficient that Homeschool parents receive no assistance, they even want to deny the right of a parent to educate their own child irrespective of how well the child does academically. That is ridiculous.

I personally don't like the idea of using vouchers for parochial education because of church state entanglement, but at least the variable cost of educating a student should be available in a voucher form to allow additional choice for parents.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:37 AM
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31. it's crap like this that is PUSHING school choice - the deliberate
destruction of the public school system.

And since the 'choice' in nearly always public school vs privatized school, can you see WHY it is happening?
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:12 AM
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38. I believe in public education.
And our family is atheist (well actually I'm an apathist, I don't give a hoot what someone's god thinks of me) and parochial school repels me on several levels. The voucher idea is political theater and, again, isn't a serious solution to a serious problem. The voucher proposals are as junky as Ryan's voucher program for Medicade and Medicare. Its a giveaway to the private institutions and is meant to destroy public schools.

Our family is doing the best it can with what it can afford. We hand-picked our neighborhood because the CPS school gets good marks (such as that is) and its considered one of the "good" schools. That way our child has, at least, a chance. Sadly, the high school is awful and has been that way for decades so we'll have to figure something out when that time comes. It costs us quite a lot in housing to live there, but we stay because of the school.

All the other "good" schools in the city are, either, as expensive as a private college program, or have a wait list that is years long, just to get into a lottery for a handful of spots, which you can do at any school in CPS. My kid's school, for example, has a three year wait-list to go on the lottery list, and for the last two years they have had no extra slots for kids, out of district, to get in so they didn't have any drawings. So even with vouchers, our choices are limited because the good schools already have wait-lists to get in. And then there are the religious schools that are more affordable than the secular private schools, but we're against indoctrinating our child into a religion.

Chicago has serious educational problems, much like the rest of the country. The system is a sea of waste and graft, but the alternatives are just as bad or worse. I know many good teachers toiling away in CPS and they are dedicated to their jobs and the kids, but the administrators are awful. At my child's school the principle moves around and the teachers all treat her like a queen, its creepy. I'd give her a score of 65% Again, this is at a "good" school. Thankfully they allow us flexibility on the lunch issue, and took a stand against the mandatory breakfast program that CPS forced on everybody. So the school isn't all bad, but it defiantly has room for a lot of improvement.

This school also has rabid parental support. They raise enough money each year to keep music and art teachers on staff that the school otherwise, could not afford. So that's a big plus. Most other schools are not as lucky.

All the schools in CPS are hit or miss, and seem to be made or broken on community support. The state is broke, the county is broke, and the city is extra-broke and all are corrupt to the core. CPS has been squeezed for resources badly and kids all over the city suffer and its run by political appointees in the grand Chicago tradition. Especially on the South and West sides where the incomes are the lowest and the crime is the highest, you will find the worst schools. Those poor kids have troubles beyond my imagination. The system is so bad out there that all they get is a few hours off the streets and little more. The schools should be giving them an out, a chance, an opportunity to rise above the squalor crime and violence and get out. But CPS can't do that because they don't have the funds and the manpower to affect anything out there.

My wife, who has a teaching degree (along with another one) considered going into the CPS program, but after all the testing and certifications she's have to endure, plus the high costs for those tests and cert and background checks and waiting periods, it would take her close to a year to get in. And then she would not get to pick her first assignment. They'd ship her to the school with the worst assignment until she had seniority to move out and up, and that translates to the worst schools in CPS from what I've been told by other teachers in the system. That is, unless, you know the right people to put a word in, or "take care of" the right people if you don't already know them.

That's a long way of saying the CPS system scares off new teachers and so they have a hiring problem to boot. This affects the quality of the teachers, especially, in the hardest hit areas. They might get a good teacher or two, but not long enough to turn things around.

Its a bad situation here and the fixes are easy to see but hard to implement. CPS needs quality teachers, and quality supplies across the board. CPS also needs to provide adequate security for teachers and students so they can do their jobs, which probably involves CPD who've got tons of different problems. CPS also needs a well rounded education system that is not focused on test taking for NLCB and/or "race to the top" nonsense. CPS needs to see each child as an individual that is part of a whole and part of the community, instead of a bunch of widgets to process and get out so they can process more widgets.

Tackling any of those things is very hard to do and nobody, holding office in Illinois, is serious about these problems. And if there is an exception, there isn't any money to implement these improvements.
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exboyfil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 05:52 PM
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70. Would Homeschooling be an option for your child
when they reach High School? Especially with your spouse having a teaching degree. I do Homeschooling with my middle school daughter in two subjects in the evening (English and Social Studies). I am confident in my abilities to give her as good an education as she would receive at the public school (actually quite a bit better than a particular teacher in English and a particular flawed curriculum for Social Studies). I also do 10th grade Biology with her through a online program from North Dakota Center for Distance Education. I know this program does at least a good of job in expectations as the public school (she did Life Sciences over the summer from the same program to jump 7th grade Science - got a near perfect score on the final exam for the school), and she has one of the highest scores in 8th grade Science as a 7th grader.

I don't want to kill public schools but children need options. You could probably work out something like North Dakota Center for Distance Education at $3K/yr. This is not appropriate for everyone, but lots of rural kids learn this way, and it sure beats going to a basket case High School.

I remember my 7th-9th grade Hell in California, and it almost cost me my life. I vowed never to have my children experience the same Hell. Most of the public school teachers I have worked with have been good or excellent - in general they are not the problem. The problem is with maintaining discipline in the classroom. I resent the fact that the NEA says I am not qualified to teach my children if that is my choice.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:21 PM
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89. We have talked about home schooling but its a long way off.
since our child is only in pre-school. So we've got time to explore options. Everything is on the table right now.

The problem, as I see it, is the growing trend (at least in my neighborhood) of helicopter parents who also think its the school's job to teach kids manners and other cultural norms. I've seen this problem at all kinds of schools. Parents need to be involved in their children's lives and they need to teach at home but this isn't happening.

I attended many different schools because my parents moved around and so I was the target of bullying often as the new kid. There are more bullies now than there were when I was growing up. School hasn't changed much but parenting has, so I believe a large part of the systemic breakdown happening in our school system involves what's going on (or not as is the case) at home.

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exboyfil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 03:02 PM
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96. Bullying was hell when I was a kid
My daughters seem to have avoided the worst of it. I don't know if it is the difference between being a small bookish boy or an average sized bookish girl, or living in 1970s California versus 2010s Iowa. My view of public school education is colored by a succession of bullies starting in 3rd grade and going to 10th grade. I can recite the names of everyone and relive the confronations which ultimately led to fist fights or flight.

Public school can be a cage, and no one has the right to say that a child has to stay in that cage.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:15 PM
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47. So the answer to one dumb-ass principal is to pull kids out of all public schools?!
:wtf:
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exboyfil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 05:38 PM
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68. No the poster said
that the $12-14K per kid that CPS spends is effectively a babysitting service (at least for her). I was responding to that post. Frankly I would continue (or probably start) packing my kids meal and challenge the school to stop me if that is the only complaint that I had with it.

One thing I find shocking about CPS is that the School Board is appointed by the mayor. I read the resumes of the individuals appointed and they are very impressive - lots of lawyers and investment types in the upper echelons of Chicago society it appears. In their descriptions I saw nothing about their children in the school system though. It does appear that lots of students have choices if they win a lottery or have certain test scores. The one thing I would expect would be whether the student goes to the neighborhood school or to one of the elite college preps that the same amount is spent per student at a given grade level.

I find the stand that the NEA has taken towards to Homeschooling to be arrogant in the extreme. I frankly don't want or need any help from the school in my Homeschooling and doing my own options, but it is because I have blessed to have a job that will allow my spouse to stay home. I grieve for the children who do not have options besides a disruptive or dangerous public school. Several of my older daughter's classes have been a waste of time because of the disruptions and failure of her teachers. That is why I am selectively Homeschooling my younger daughter in certain subjects.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 09:58 AM
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9. that looks disgusting.
:puke:
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 09:58 AM
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10. And to think some people here defend the decision
:eyes:
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davidthegnome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:03 AM
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12. Sorry kids
But if you really want to make a difference... you'll have to eat the principal.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:03 AM
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13. The food has zero nutritional value if the kid doesn't eat it.
Quite frankly I don't trust the parents or the schools on this one, both are failing our rapidly growing population of obese children.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 03:01 PM
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57. You ought to look at that photo again.
I see no obese kids in that small sampling. I'd say that they are eating very healthily at home and, formerly, at school with bagged lunches from home.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:04 AM
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14. As one of my friends used to say:
"Looks like something I saw in a bedpan!"
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:11 AM
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15. "to encourage healthful eating"? or to encourage profits for the cafeteria provider?
:shrug:
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 05:59 PM
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71. Ding, ding, ding, we have a winnah, folks! A WINNAH!
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:12 AM
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16. Your subject disses SOS
I loves me some "shit on a shingle". Chipped beef on toast, great breakfast. And, the mess sergeant did a great job of it.

The stuff on those school trays? I don't know, my computer doesn't have "smell and taste" as part of the interface. It might be good, might not. I think it could use some hot sauce, though.

:hi:
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 02:23 PM
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56. SOS...the best dish our mess hall served at breakfast
add a couple over-easy eggs on top... :9 indeed.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 01:30 PM
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94. To call that glop on the kid's plate SOS
is an insult to SOS.

dg
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:21 AM
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23. To call that an enchilada is to add insult to injury.
What a daunting looking plate.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:25 AM
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24. On Fernando:
Seems like even the kids these days know something is desperately wrong in this country.

As for the enchilada(?), it's been four decades since I was in elementary school, but IO don't ever remember a lunch looking that bad.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:28 AM
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25. LOL! Good for him!
It looks like a pile of slop :rofl:
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:31 AM
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26. He wouldn't cringe at my black bean and chorizo enchiladas.
Never happen. That is not an enchilada. Looks like dog barf.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:36 AM
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29. Black bean and chorizo enchiladas? Yum, yum?
Can I come to your house for lunch? :9
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:40 AM
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32. Sure. Just let me know when you'll be here. (nt)
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 01:12 PM
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55. Mineral Man, what kind of chorizo do you use for those? Chorizo in casings or just the meat
already ground and packaged? Sounds ridiculously good and I've gotta try it!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 07:18 PM
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77. I buy the sausages in casings, then remove the casings and chop
up the filler. If you can, buy the chorizo from a real Mexican market. It's better. I use more or less chorizo, depending on the tolerance of the people who are going to eat. The chorizo has all the seasonings needed, but sometimes I add some cumin, if there's not enough. I saute the chorizo, drain and mash the black beans just a little, and add onions. Then, I make a sauce with red chile sauce and gravy made with beef broth, dip the warm corn tortillas in it and roll them with the filling, then pour the sauce over the rolled enchiladas, topping it with some real Mexican cheese and bake until the cheese is all bubbly.Canned enchilada sauce isn't rich enough.

I like to serve these with quartered limes you can squeeze on the enchiladas just before chowing down.

Enjoy!
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:33 AM
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27. That might be a collection of Mexican cooking ingredients, but it's no enchilada.
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:36 AM
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28. SHUT UP AND EAT YOUR GRUEL
The Republicans said so.
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:41 AM
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33. So it looks like he's got "enchilada" S.O.S, milk, and maybe a moonpie or lil debbie?

Hardly a nutritious lunch. Jeezis.

I remember when I was in school, we had a main protein entree, at least 2 vegetable courses, and some sort of fruit dish (usually just peaches or pears from a can). But it was hot and not too terrible and most students ate for free.

They would even bring out trays of the leftovers and just give them away, so most kids who wanted got seconds.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 03:06 PM
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60. I remember things like...
...a little scoop of turkey & gravy, an ice cream scoop of instant mashed potatoes, a spoonful of some kind of canned veggie, a roll, milk, and fruit.

There were also things like sloppy joes, but for the most part, the meals were primarily protein-starch-veggie-bread-fruit-milk.
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:02 AM
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35. Dog food looks more appetizing.

No, really:



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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:07 AM
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36. nothing a little fake cheese and overly sweet catsup couldn't fix!
says the repuke who controls the food contract.

I can't even imagine what the factory food looks like today that these poor kids have to eat.

Parceling out our kids nutrition via the lowest bidder.
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Umbral Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:07 AM
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37. Sorry folks, but that's how an enchilada comes out of a casserole. If you go to a restaurant...
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 11:08 AM by Umbral
...they would be assembled, to order, from hot ingredients and finished off in a salamander - it makes for good presentation. But as anyone that has actually cooked enchiladas knows, they don't come out of the pan nearly as nice as they went in. This is a cafeteria, not Taco Bell.

It doesn't look as though the food has even been tasted.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:32 AM
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39. I frequently make about a dozen at a time
They go into a caserole dish, and it is very easy to get them so they look like something resembling a traditional enchilada. So, yes, I've "actually cooked" them before, and you're wrong.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:11 PM
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46. Indeed. They are staples in my house. The trick restaurants use is
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 12:12 PM by blondeatlast
that they pile on more and much thicker sauce than people at home use.
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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 01:09 PM
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54. Do you make 30 dozen at a time?
Scale is a bit different.
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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 07:39 PM
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83. I've prepared enchiladas in a very busy restaurant and they never looked like that.
n/t
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 07:56 PM
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84. Mine do.
Enchiladas are NOT hard to make. If you have a problem with them crumbling up, I just drop mine in a little hot grease for a few seconds on each side before immersing them in sauce.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:37 AM
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41. In boarding school, that's what we called anything
creamed served on toast. There was also plenty of "mystery meat".
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:42 AM
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42. I wonder if there's a vegan option.
Seriously, veganism isn't a medical condition or food allergy, so what if the kid is vegan? Raw foodist? Gluten-free? I like the idea of the school taking nutrition a little more seriously (even if it is somewhat to fill corporate coffers) but a ban? I dunno. Not the best idea.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 03:05 PM
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59. You could probably get gluten-free passed
because that can be a food allergy. The rest? Not likely. However, I wonder if the parents could claim a religious reason to have their kids eating vegetarian and vegan? Would the school back down on that angle?

What the parents need to do is get together and claim all the options available, and bypass this numbskull rule.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 05:01 PM
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66. I was wondering about vegetarians. I've been a vegetarian since I was 9yrs
what is a vegetarian to do if the main dish is meat? It's not right to either go hungry or eat what is against your principles or that you find repugnant. :puke:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 05:24 PM
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67. They probably cover vegetarians with a PB&J option.
Which frankly, is more appetizing that what's on that plate in the OP. Maybe a "salad" of some sort. It is a good point, though. One never knows.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:31 PM
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90. I was almost wondering
if one could get a note from the doctor saying that high blood pressure runs in the family and he's recommended a low-salt diet for the kid. :P
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:57 AM
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43. K&R
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:59 AM
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44. Cut the kid some slack. That thing looks BAD. nt
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:20 PM
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48. This could be our big 2012 issue. School lunches... I'm tellin' ya.
It's got potential.
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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:24 PM
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49. That's awful! I only graduated from high school a few years ago so I remember how
how horrible school lunches (worse than any fast food, gas station food, or hospital food you've ever had). Like the food in the picture, they didn't even look like real food.

From first grade onward I always brought my own lunch.

Always.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:24 PM
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50. Flashbacks to my school lunches.
Only mine were "hot packs" and "cold packs."

On some Fridays they would have waffles and sausage (don't ask me why) for lunch. It took me a VERY long time to eat sausage -- or even go near it -- after dealing with that crap for the majority of my elementary school days. Sausage still isn't up there onb my list of preferred foods.

(The picture looks like Chef-Boy-Ar-Dee canned ravioli, to me.)
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:30 PM
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51. They Were Expecting It To Be Better Than School Pizza?
You remember school pizza, right? It looked so good on paper, but in reality was a soggy mess.
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Trailrider1951 Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 01:03 PM
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53. That's some serious dreck. Compare it to what the French serve
their children:




http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9353183


That "lunch" is certainly a triumph of profits over nutrition. :puke:
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 03:05 PM
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58. "To encourage healthful eating..."??????
Did they just write that????? :wow:
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 04:31 PM
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64. They are starving right in front of us
Children with allergies should be separated. I know it may not be good for the child with the allergy, but this is crazy. This shit never happened when I was in school in the 60's and 70's. I have food allergies. I can't eat bananas, walnuts watermelon, plums, grapes, raw carrots, celery and I like all those things. I KNOW I can't eat them. It's not a life or death allergy, but it makes my throat scratchy for hours. But if the child has a life or death allergy, they should be separated. Why should the rest suffer. Even the teachers. Soylent Green is People!
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 04:46 PM
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65. What a RIDICULOUS policy
most sack lunches would probably be healthier than some of the stuff served in a cafeteria. I'm sure it's just scam way for the cafeteria to get money.
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osteenq Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 05:44 PM
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69. Meh...
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 05:45 PM by osteenq
The kids aren't getting real educations, so why should we expect the schools to serve them real food?
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 06:03 PM
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72. Enchilada
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk

Famous line to paraphrase the Princess Bride.

You keep usding that word, enchilada.

I don't think you're using it correctly.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 06:17 PM
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73. My grandmother made a mean shit on the shingle. It's what we called biscuits and gravy.
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 06:44 PM
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75. Looks like a pile of dung. I don't blame the kid. nt
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 07:21 PM
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78. Forget the enchilada! We have a young revolutionary on our hands!
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 07:22 PM by Rex
Did someone call the cops and beat him down with a HUGE...HUGE amount of unnecessary force!? My God! Where will it end...this is it, the END TIMES ARE HERE!!

2012.

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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 07:29 PM
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79. The school just want the students to be ready for when they graduate.
Of course the only job will be the Military and we know what kind of slop the get there.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 07:31 PM
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80. ATTICA! ATTICA! ATTICA!...
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 08:01 PM
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85. That looks like fucking prison food! I would not feed that to a dog.
Nanny State idiots!
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MyUncle Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 08:32 PM
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86. The question is why are kids not allowed to bring their own lunch?
The bad news for Dems here folks is that home lunches cuts the subsidies that the schools get from children enrolled in the lunch programs. Lay off cafeteria workers and you are laying off for the most part Union members. I know it sounds easy to fix the food, but based upon the comments, almost no one thinks that can happen.

So the options are:
Dems look bad because they force kids to eat food they don't want to eat by having mandatory school lunch.
Dems lose Union members when kids bring food from home and lunch programs lose funds and have layoffs.

This sucks.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 08:40 PM
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87. i had better looking grub in prison
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dembotoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:38 PM
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91. entire school served beans at lunch?????
too many jokes there
just too many jokes
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 12:49 PM
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92. posted this yesterday.
;)
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 01:24 PM
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93. looks like Tomatoes of Death plus mystery glop to me. n/t
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octothorpe Donating Member (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 01:35 PM
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95. How is an "enchilada" healthier than a homemade turkey sandwich or something similar?
Edited on Wed Apr-13-11 01:35 PM by octothorpe
Ohhh, healthier for some company's bottom line. I see. I see.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 03:18 PM
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97. I'd be pissed if I were forced to eat that garbage plate too.
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