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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:58 PM Original message |
"no cuts for current retirees" = the rest of us are screwed on Social Security... |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. Without healthcare coverage, you probably won't live that long anyway |
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RagAss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:00 PM Original message |
They need to sacrifice a generation...we're it ! |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. Is that what he said today? I didn't see the speech. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. No he didn't. Here's the truth below |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Yes he DID. No CURRENT beneficiary should see the basic benefit reduced; nor will we accept an appro |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. Are you interested |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. "Should" and "slashes" are loopholes. |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. CURRENT is also a loophole.. in fact this "spin" sheet CONFIRMS my point. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Tell it to |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Not sure what your point is.. Bernie doesn't talk about SS in that post.. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. "Not sure what your point is.. " Here's the point |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:22 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. NOT CLEAR AT ALL... "current" retirees excludes the rest of us to me.. |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:26 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. What does the phrase "without slashing benefits for future retirees" |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. sorry but that sentence does NOT negate the previous one. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. . |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. no that's realistic... |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. There's that "current" and "slashing" again. |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Yup! |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
35. Yep, those were the operative words allowing lots of wiggle room. n/t |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. SPIN, RINSE... REPEAT.. |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. YES HE DID: No CURRENT beneficiary should see the basic benefit reduced; nor will we accept an appro |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. He's not. Don't bother trying. nt |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
5. Well, we knew that already |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
12. yep. good catch, btw; most people seem to have missed that part altogether. nt |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Most people have not taken the time to read the whole framework. See the truth below |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. The truth is that SS and Medicare are up for grabs.. Obama doesn't need spin sheets to just say NO. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. That is bull. SS and Medicare is NOT up for grabs. |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. I guess you can't read your own spin sheet.. The word CURRENT is a deal breaker. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:31 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. You are trying to spin the sentence into something that it is not. n/t |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:32 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Nope.. just reading what it says...n/t |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Yeah, it's not like Obama has ever put up one thing, and then did something else. n/t |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
14. wondering what will happen with current SSD (disability) recipients |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
22. Give up on ddclue, et al. They aren't interested in facts, just their own version |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Obama is hardly an adult...adults stand up for what they believe in.. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
28. The FACTS below --------> |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Yeah.. No CURRENT beneficiary should see the basic benefit reduced...your own spin sheet. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Yes English is - 660 Verbal on my SAT (that was the low score), college grad, minor in American Lit. |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. To think we're all in the clear because there won't be any "slashing" is unrealistic. |
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