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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:30 AM
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"Obama's plan didn't work..."
Some congressman, with black shoe polish in his hair, just said this on Contessa's show on MSNBC. Rep Tom Graves of Georgia said it was time to try something different. Obama's plan simply didn't work. Isn't that debatable?

We are not in a deep depression right now. The unemployment rate could be a lot worse. President Obama was left holding a big bag of crap from Bush and the Republicans. So, it could be argued that the economy is now back on the rebound, however slightly, and that we have escaped an economic tsunami?

But Republicans like Graves say that the Obama plan never worked. Well, I guess we will never know for sure but I do believe it could have been and would have been much worse under McCain and the Republicans. Even the healthcare plan that so many hate will decrease the deficit that is/was a dramatic drag on the economy. It needs more done but just where did the Obama plan not work?
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:33 AM
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1. i think the crap the republicans insisted on and then voted against anyway
weakened the stimulus, but we are still better off than we would have been. i think we should have invested in rebuilding roads, bridges, expanding broadband, lots of infrastructure stuff. but the republicans insisted on shit that didn't really help and now that their junk food additions made the stimulus less effective than it could have been, they are going to try to blame obama for it.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:36 AM
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2. I was half listening, I think he claimed we only started losing jobs in late 2008.
The guy was a complete lightweight, Contessa handled his BS with ease.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:40 AM
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3. ... ask a 99'er if he thinks the economy is recovering ...
n/t
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PonyJon Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:41 AM
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4. For some serious economic thoughts
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:42 AM
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5. "President Obama was left holding a big bag of crap from Bush and the Republicans"...
Then why does he insist on working with those whose only skill is creating big bags of crap?
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PonyJon Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:44 AM
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6. Republicans fix budget?
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:39 PM
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11. Because They Got Elected to Congress

Then why does he insist on working with those whose only skill is creating big bags of crap?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:47 AM
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7. What plan?
Someone needs to ask these Republicans which plan they mean? Do they mean the GOP Health Plan that they were fore before they were against it? Do they mean tax cuts for the rich, because they're right on that one - but I doubt they're complaining about that...
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ProfessionalLeftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:49 AM
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8. I heard some ass on NPR this morning saying 'failed stimulus'
It's bullshit. It didn't fail. Without it, we'd be in much worse shape. They never mention that.

Furthermore, Obama has been in office barely TWO YEARS. It book bu$h EIGHT years to make the monumental mess of our economy and the mess of our budget that he made, and the Tea Baggars and Koch have been at their crap for DECADES.

So really, how has Obama "failed"? He hasn't - not in the way these propaganda peddlers are claiming.

WHAT WE HAVE TRIED is the bullshit supply-side trickle-down crap that they're still pushing. We've tried it for DECADES (particularly the last TWO) - speaking of "plans that didn't work" - how about that one?

Pretentious hypocrisy and psychological projection are the Hallmarks of Republicans. Obviously.

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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:49 AM
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9. It absolutely did work. The stimulus worked but it was slow
because the Democrats on the Hill were too fearful
to give him the full amount Geihtner and Romer asked for.
If that stimulus had been there we would be in a deep
depression and never let anyone tell you differently.
The Democrats should parrot this over and over.

The Assistance to Auto Industry have turned the American
Car Industry around.

The Bailout to the Banks certainly worked. Wall St is
and Banks are making gobs of money and have stabalized.



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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:52 AM
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10. But the Republican plan of cutting taxes and launching multiple wars
We've got a winner! Holy smokes. Well, I'm sure Ms. Brewer just laid into him like an 1890s schoolmarm, right?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:42 PM
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12. The only parts of his program that "didn't work" are those that THEY
have refused to put into effect.
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