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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 06:21 PM
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On Children...(you don't own them...but..)
On Children
Kahlil Gibran

Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.

You may give them your love but not your thoughts,
For they have their own thoughts.
You may house their bodies but not their souls,
For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow,
which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams.
You may strive to be like them,
but seek not to make them like you.
For life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.

You are the bows from which your children
as living arrows are sent forth.
The archer sees the mark upon the path of the infinite,
and He bends you with His might
that His arrows may go swift and far.
Let your bending in the archer's hand be for gladness;
For even as He loves the arrow that flies,
so He loves also the bow that is stable.

Attribution:
http://www.katsandogz.com/onchildren.html

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Pied Piper Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 06:26 PM
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1. There is a wonderful vocal arrangement of this
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 06:33 PM
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4. Thanks for that!
I'd never heard it before. Beautiful!

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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 06:36 PM
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5. Nice!
:thumbsup:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 06:59 PM
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8. Oh...Thanks...I'd never heard that before.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 06:27 PM
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2. "The Prophet" ---been in my bookcase for for 40 years.
Edited on Fri Apr-15-11 07:06 PM by virgogal
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 06:45 PM
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7. Me too. A young friend recently read it and was surprised I'd heard of it.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 06:59 PM
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9. You and "ME TOO!...it's coming back to me why I re-read him...in these times. n/t
Edited on Fri Apr-15-11 07:21 PM by KoKo
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 07:16 PM
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11. Just another thought..."Sweet Honey in the Rock" was fave of my daughter in 80's
and this one is one that I just sent her...because..like many of our children...she needs all the encouragement she can get in these times.

Many Thanks for that Video! And, that it repeats Gibran's Wise Words, makes listening and watching even more special. :hug:
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 07:17 PM
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12. It's on my bookshelf, too
It was a gift from a doctor at the office. I was pleased to see this poem in there.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 06:31 PM
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3. One of my favorites.
A beautiful piece and a beautiful book.

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VioletLake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 06:42 PM
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6. Thanks, I needed that. nt
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 07:01 PM
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10. It's so profound...and makes so much sense. We don't know where our Arrows will Shoot...
(where our children will land) ...but it's not UP to US WHERE THEY LAND...but up to THEM where they Land and what they DO with it.

It's very comforting...in many ways.
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VioletLake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 07:42 PM
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13. I can't think of anything in life more difficult than raising kids. nt
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 07:53 PM
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17. ...
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MikeH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 08:20 PM
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14. This is very true, and is something I wish my father had realized and taken to heart
I had a very difficult and dominating father, who did many very good things and many very nice things, and who was certainly not the worst father anybody ever had. However he very often seemed to have the attitude that I and his other children were in fact his possessions, and he often acted and behaved as if that were the case.

He often regarded it as a personal affront to him, or treated it like I had committed a crime or a heinous sin, when I made an honest mistake, honestly forgot something, or when something did not quite meet his standards or expectations. And he would always say that whatever he said or did was done out of "love", and was "http://nospank.net/fyog.htm">for my own good", which he decided in Godlike fashion that I needed.

My dad basically couldn't let me make my own mistakes; he was often very hard on me when I made a natural, normal, honest mistake. He felt that he needed to protect me from some dire consequences of making some natural, normal mistakes. He didn't seem to respect that making mistakes, including sometimes dumb mistakes, was part of the learning process, at least as far as I was concerned. And then he often wondered why I had the problems I had, or was often unhappy, or lacking in self-confidence.

He even yelled at me one time when I needed to ask him if I ought to go to a certain meeting that a guy I had met in college was pressuring me to go to (which I myself didn't have any strong feelings about, and actually preferred not to go to), like I was so stupid that I needed to ask, or like I had my heart set on doing something wrong. And afterward he referred to it as something wrong with me that I got upset with him. Like many other times, my dad did not feel he said or did anything wrong, and felt he had nothing to apologize for.

And my dad was often especially poor at understanding, or even trying to understand, from my point of view, some sensitive and personal issue which was causing me to be upset, frustrated, or otherwise unhappy. He saw the world in a certain way, and he was very positive he was right based on how he saw the world, and would try to correct me or straighten me out based on how he saw things, and would make little or no attempt to really listen to me and try to understand from my point of view something that I was struggling with. My dad basically didn't like problems, and he would try to solve them quickly, and often in doing so he was very insensitive to the needs and feelings of another person.

And trying to talk something over with my dad that I was angry or upset with him about would usually do very little or no good. My dad felt very certain that he "loved" me, and that therefore he could do no wrong, and if I were angry or upset with him or with anything he said or did, it was always a problem or something wrong with me, never with him. He would very often either intimidate me or sweet-talk me into going along with whatever he said or did that I did not like and was really not OK.

My dad died over 25 years ago now, and my life has been a lot easier since he died, and I have since been able to do many important things that I had long wanted to do, both personally and professionally, which I had not been able to do or had a hard time doing when my dad was still alive.

Actually my dad was very worldly and very practical-minded, and I don't think anything by Kahlil Gibran, or any poetry in general, would have meant anything to him.

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Zephie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 08:23 PM
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15. K&R. Speaks to me powerfully.
I didn't have much of a childhood, and now as an expectant mom I'm truly having to stand back and evaluate how to appropriately let my child grow as their own person. Thank you for sharing this!
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 08:26 PM
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16. My children benefitted because they were raised this way.
My parents were good people, but they hovered and smothered me. I had very little self-confidence and low self-esteem, and it has affected me all my life.

Even now.

An old boyfriend had given me the book "The Prophet" where I first read this, and this poem, and all the poems there changed my life.

In fact, when I married, the verses on marriage were included in our ceremony.

Gibran was a marvelous poet and his words have made my life much easier and better...

Thank you for posting this!

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